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GeoffatMM
07-12-21, 09:59
I have been experimenting with the recording system before finally disposing of my Humax box (one of its great benefits is its automatic recording control). I have two issues I would like to raise. Search forums but cannot find an answer. Sorry if these are basic questions.

1. Formula One.

This programme has changed the way it titles the programmes so it now states F1 [circuit name] Grand Prix Highlights. I set an auto timer and it did not even record the first programme. I have tried removing the [circuit name] section and that also did not work. I also experimented with the "Exact Match" option but nothing appeared to enable an auto timer for this programme. Any suggestions? (Future experimentation will have to wait until next season now!).

2. Setting or Editing Channels and/or Days

Match of the Day! This is working on the Saturday programme (and MOTD2 on Sundays). However there are from time to time MOTD specials (live matches) and midweek programmes (esp. after international weekends). In Vix, it sets the day (or allows any day by removing the tick) when setting the auto timer from the guide but I cannot find how to discretely edit the day(s) in the timer once established. I can however edit it in Kodi where it allows me to select any combination of multiple days to search (I cannot confirm if it works or not yet). How do I edit the days for searching in the same way in Vix?

I am also trying to record the FA Cup highlights which moves from one channel to another so I set it for any day and any channel. The net result was about 50 Gigabytes of multiple recordings of the same programme thanks to the continuous repeats on the Red Button. So I tried to find how to edit the channels to only select BBC 1 and BBC 2 but could not find a way to do it. I looked at Kodi but even here, the discrete selection of channels to search was not possible. So, is there a way to do this in Vix? If not, is there a way to duplicate an auto timer (set for BBC 1) and edit it to another channel (BBC 2)?

Ta,

ccs
07-12-21, 10:12
You can change the days of the week and channels to record from when creating/editing a timer. (Edit filters or services.)

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When you create or update an autotimer, you'll get a summary of what it's found, and the timer list will confirm this.

When you're editing an AT from the autotimer overview, remember to press green to save in the overview, otherwise your changes will be lost.

adm
07-12-21, 13:33
You can change the days of the week and channels to record from when creating/editing a timer. (Edit filters or services.)

The restict to days menu item used to work but now appears very broken.

The only user option now for "restrict to days" is disabled.

From memory, it once allowed user enabling and then gave all of the days of the week with a tick box beside each day to allow that day to be included

birdman
07-12-21, 13:34
I record all of these from Freeview and have honed the rules over the years.

F1 (assuming you only want the final race, not qualifying).

Set "Match title" to just "F1"
Search type to: "Starts with"
Press Edit Filters to set
"In Title" to Exclude "Build Up", "Reaction", "Replay", "Qualifying" (4 entries)
"on Weekday" to Sunday (might also need Monday here, in case of an after-midnight start?)
Press Edit Services to set
on channel "Channel 4 HD"


FA Cup highlights I just have set to a window of 17:00 to 02:00 everyday on BBC ONE HD and BBC TWO HD (it has also been on BBC FOUR earlier, but I ignore that).

MOTD2 I set for on Weekday Sunday and Monday on BBC ONE HD and BBC TWO HD.

Match of the Day itself I set for 21:45 to 01:20 on Weekday "Weekday" (so I ignore the Saturday ones when MOTD2 is on teh next day) on BBC ONE HD and BBC TWO HD.
Then I check manually over Christmas/New Year/Easter as to what has been set.

ccs
07-12-21, 13:49
The restict to days menu item used to work but now appears very broken.

The only user option now for "restrict to days" is disabled.

From memory, it once allowed user enabling and then gave all of the days of the week with a tick box beside each day to allow that day to be included

I can see a list, and can add extra entries using the blue button "New".

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adm
07-12-21, 15:36
I can see a list, and can add extra entries using the blue button "New".

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Ok found the setting but is raises another point that the items..
Restrict to specific bouquets
Restrict to days
Use other filters

are not actually menu items although they appear in the menu list. They are just status indications that a filter has been set by other means. It is an illogical GUI and doesn't actually do what the "menu item suggests"

For instance, Selecting "Restrict to days" gives no user choice. If it says enabled that is the only option a user can select. If it says disabled again that is the only option offered. Enabled or disabled is set depending on the option selected in the previous autotimer screen(depending on which methed the user configures autotimers), a screen that doesn't appear again if editing and existing autotimer.

ccs
07-12-21, 15:46
For instance, Selecting "Restrict to days" gives no user choice. If it says enabled that is the only option a user can select. If it says disabled again that is the only option offered. Enabled or disabled is set depending on the option selected in the previous autotimer screen(depending on which methed the user configures autotimers), a screen that doesn't appear again if editing and existing autotimer.

You can switch enabled/disabled on and off when editing an AT by using "Edit filters" of "edit services".

"Restrict to specific bouquets" does appear to stick on disabled. - Not quite, it is enabled if "Restrict to specific services" is disabled.

You can only disable "Restrict to specific services" if you first delete all services it's currently set to, otherwise toggling enable/disable does nothing.

So it probably looks like it's one or the other, services or bouquets, which kind of rings a faint bell.

BrokenUnusableAccount
07-12-21, 18:26
So it probably looks like it's one or the other, services or bouquets, which kind of rings a faint bell.

I think that's right for autotimers.

EPG refresh allows, and works correctly with, a mixture of stations and bouquets.

BrokenUnusableAccount
07-12-21, 18:50
Ok found the setting but is raises another point that the items..
Restrict to specific bouquets
Restrict to days
Use other filters

are not actually menu items although they appear in the menu list. They are just status indications that a filter has been set by other means. It is an illogical GUI and doesn't actually do what the "menu item suggests"

Maybe they could be phrased batter, but they are menu items in the sense that you are choosing which list to display, edit and/or create next.

ccs
07-12-21, 18:52
I think that's right for autotimers.

EPG refresh allows, and works correctly with, a mixture of stations and bouquets.

Not sure what EPG refresh has to do with autotimers ??

birdman
07-12-21, 19:26
For instance, Selecting "Restrict to days" gives no user choice.If you go to that item in the menu then the Help text tells you to "Use the yellow key to edit the day filter".

BrokenUnusableAccount
08-12-21, 22:16
Not sure what EPG refresh has to do with autotimers ??

Mainly I'm saying please do not change that channel or bouquet filters input function so that you can't set both at once because it's useful to be able to do that for EPG Refresh.

ccs
08-12-21, 22:23
Mainly I'm saying please do not change that channel or bouquet filters input function so that you can't set both at once because it's useful to be able to do that for EPG Refresh.

Ok, but I can't enable both at once for some reason, just one or the other. (Using ABM.)

birdman
09-12-21, 00:33
Mainly I'm saying please do not change that channel or bouquet filters input function so that you can't set both at once because it's useful to be able to do that for EPG Refresh.However, as far as I can tell, the AutoTimer code only checks bouquets if services is not set. If neither is set it checks all bouquets (lines 376, 378 and 389 in AutoTimer.py).

Why would EPG refresh be using AutoTimer settings, rather than its own?

Although the option for allowing multiple timers does have an option for "If specified services or bouquets", which would imply it has some meaning somewhere?

GeoffatMM
09-12-21, 06:48
OK I will take another look at editing the timer, thanks birdman, seeing your logic will help me set my own..

GeoffatMM
09-12-21, 09:04
OK I am making progress. Have set up Match of the Day on BBC1 HD and BBC 2 HD on weekends and weekdays. To enable recordings on both channels do I need to enable the "Use automatic selection of alternates"? Or is this for something else?

On some of my recordings the entry states "Everyday" but this is not an option in the filter. How have I managed to do that?

On a completely (almost) different topic, the remote does not let me turn the TV and receiver off if it is in the menu system. Normally I would press a home button then off as this would back me out of the menu system and enable me to switch off. I cannot find a home button on the remote. Is there a short cut to exit all menus?

BrokenUnusableAccount
09-12-21, 15:42
However, as far as I can tell, the AutoTimer code only checks bouquets if services is not set. If neither is set it checks all bouquets (lines 376, 378 and 389 in AutoTimer.py).
That is what I thought.



Why would EPG refresh be using AutoTimer settings, rather than its own?
In EPG Refresh it just behaves as if it's using the same code to input the lists of channels and bouquets.
Maybe it isn't and the code has just been copied. I don't know.