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I have brought a Unicable LNB from the sponsor and had it installed professionally,
The legacy part works but not the unicable.
I have tried a factory rest and I gave changed the timer to 0800
I know that I am on the correct cable as if if I change it to simple I get nothing connected.
Please can someone tell me where I am going wrong
Guide https://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?59981-Guide-to-using-Unicable may help but I think channel is set wrong should be scr type
Hi,
does the LNB has a frequency of 975MHz?
Ralf
Hi,
does the LNB has a frequency of 975MHz?
Ralf
How do I tell that?
Hi,
manual. But 975 should be OK for your type of LNB.
Ralf
This is the LNB
https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/satellite-and-terrestrial/universal-and-unicable-lnb/gt-sat-gt-s1dcss24-unicable-lnb-1-legacy
Why dont you set the correct model? GT-S1dCSS24 should be listed
Why dont you set the correct model? GT-S1dCSS24 should be listed
Have changed it still get tuner failed
abu baniaz
10-03-21, 02:05
All the GT-Sat LNBs use the same frequencies. So you can leave it on the hello one.
What is the exact problem?
Prob_A. ABM times out before LNB wakes up.
Prob_B. Unicable part of LNB does not work
Prob_B.
Test 1. Set your preferred tuner to any tuner/demodulator that is using unicable. Restart . If you get a momentary tune failed message, the unicable part of LNB is working fine.
Test 2. Using Manual Scan, select a single satellite scan. Make sure you select correct tuner. You should find over 800 channels.
"Nothing connected" is an option you select when setting/configuring the tuner when nothing is connected, i.e you want to disable the tuner. It is not a result of a test.
Prob_A.
I have to ensure the LNB is awake when running ABM otherwise it fails. Even if it goes to a Terrestrial tuner, that sometimes causes it to sleep.
Hi Abu,
Have tried a manual scan.
I have also changed the "unicable delay after voltage enable to 800 then 1600.
All the GT-Sat LNBs use the same frequencies. So you can leave it on the hello one.
What is the exact problem?
Prob_A. ABM times out before LNB wakes up.
Prob_B. Unicable part of LNB does not work
Prob_B.
Test 1. Set your preferred tuner to any tuner/demodulator that is using unicable. Restart . If you get a momentary tune failed message, the unicable part of LNB is working fine.
Test 2. Using Manual Scan, select a single satellite scan. Make sure you select correct tuner. You should find over 800 channels.
"Nothing connected" is an option you select when setting/configuring the tuner when nothing is connected, i.e you want to disable the tuner. It is not a result of a test.
Prob_A.
I have to ensure the LNB is awake when running ABM otherwise it fails. Even if it goes to a Terrestrial tuner, that sometimes causes it to sleep.
Prob C. Unicable part not getting a power supply because there is a DC blocking splitter or faceplate in the path??? I assume that that this is a new installation but was exiting cable etc. used and had it previously been tested (or working) , prehaps with a previous LNB, end to end?
Prob C. Unicable part not getting a power supply because there is a DC blocking splitter or faceplate in the path??? I assume that that this is a new installation but was exiting cable etc. used and had it previously been tested (or working) , prehaps with a previous LNB, end to end?
Existing cable amd dish just the LNB changed, it was working on legacy before and the legacy port still works
abu baniaz
10-03-21, 15:04
You have performed a transponder scan, not satellite scan. Please ignore the scanning for now. Maybe I should not have mentioned it. Sorry.
We need to find out what the exact problem is. You posted pictures of an ABM failure, so this is why I am trying to rule out one or the other. Why would anyone post an ABM failure message unless it was relevant to when using ABM? Once we know the exact problem, we can go and try and solve it. You have not answered the question effectively yet.
Once again, which of the two problems is it please?
Prob_A. ABM times out before LNB wakes up.
(i.e it is fine for normal viewing, but you get a tune failed message first. It seldom works when using ABM)
Prob_B. Unicable part of LNB does not work at all
(i.e The tuners with unicable will not work for normal viewing or ABM)
I think my questions are clear and strategically correct. If they are unclear or do not make sense, please say which part is unclear and we can try and rephrase.
abu baniaz
10-03-21, 15:19
Prob C. Unicable part not getting a power supply because there is a DC blocking splitter or faceplate in the path?
To me, that would also fall under the Prob_B category. There would be a number of reasons why this would be the case. And your theory is absolutely correct as to a possible cause. My strategy is to establish whether the issue is the LNB not waking up in time for ABM/tune failed message before live TV (Prob_A) or not working at all (Prob_B). If it is established that it is Prob_B, the next question to ask is: Are you using any splitters, joins or faceplates. Also ask user to upload tuner configs. But let's not get into those discussions until we establish the problem. The manual scan option would have also ruled out an alignment issue. Yes I know it was professionally done. Unfortunately he used a transponder scan. A transponder scan could fail on both Prob_A and Prob_B.
I believe it is B, please tell how to make sure
abu baniaz
11-03-21, 03:30
Disable the tuner with the wire from the legacy port of LNB. i.e set to "Disabled" or "nothing connected". Restart receiver. If you don't get a picture, then the unicable port is not working.
This is on the proviso you have not mixed up the wires and you have not made an error with your tuner configuration. Please upload the file called "settings" after you reboot located in /etc/enigma2 if you want someone to double check it. You will need to zip it before you attach it. Please attach it instead of posting content as a post.
https://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?44054-How-to-take-screen-shots-How-to-attach-files
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.powerinserter=True ?????
Surely power is coming from tuner?? i.e no power supply feed direct to LNB?
there is no direct power. Is there a setting I need to change?
abu baniaz
11-03-21, 14:59
I can't see the option to enable the externally powered option on my Gigablue. Possibly because the machine has been set as LNB power always on.
These are the config details relating to tuners in you setting file
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.bootuptime=0
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.powerinserter=True
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=1
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer= GT-SAT
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=dLNB dHello
config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.282.lnb=1
config.Nims.0.advanced.sats=282
config.Nims.0.configMode=advanced
config.Nims.0.diseqcA=282
config.Nims.0.diseqcB=3601
config.Nims.0.diseqcC=3601
config.Nims.0.diseqcD=3601
config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable
config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=2
config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer= GT-SAT
config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=dLNB dHello
config.Nims.1.advanced.sat.282.lnb=1
config.Nims.1.advanced.sats=282
config.Nims.1.advanced.unicableconnected=True
config.Nims.1.advanced.unicableconnectedTo=0
config.Nims.1.configMode=nothing
config.Nims.1.diseqcA=282
config.sec.unicable_delay_after_enable_voltage_bef ore_switch_command=1600
config.unicable.unicableManufacturer=GT-SAT
config.unicable.unicableProduct=dLNB dHello
You have not set the other tuners either.
there is no direct power. Is there a setting I need to change?
You would have to copy settings to PC, edit and set to False.
Then using e.g. putty login to box, init 4(space between) (freeze box, so settings cannot be changed) and copy back settings and then init 6 (space between)to reboot - see if it makes any difference.
Not set the other tuners yet no point till Tuner a is working.
So is the issue software or hardware related?
..too soon to tell - see post #21
abu baniaz
11-03-21, 15:34
Which image are you on? Please do not say "latest", give the image number.
Are you using a settings backup from an older image?
You don't know for definite which wire is which. So you need to be methodical in your approach.
You have not responded to PM yet.
Image is 5.4.005 or at leat thats what the backup says.
Will do the change. A little latter need to pick my daughter up from school
Menu/Information/About will tell you which image you're actually running.
abu baniaz
11-03-21, 16:30
I ask questions to establish issues and help users. Not answering questions is a real obstacle in solving the problem.
I have flashed 5.4 009.004 again to confirm that the power option menu should not show because the machine.conf is set as LNB power is always on. So I am pretty sure that the answer to the question:
"Are you using a settings backup from an older image?" is yes.
I suggest you do the following:
Download and flash 5.4 008
Do not restore settings after it restarts
Do not install any other plugins, chaneg skins etc. Those can be done later.
In the tuner config menu, use automatic/autodiseqc to establish which tuner has the wire from the universal port. The one with the unicable one should not find anything.
Label the wires: "Universal" and "unicable"
Swap the wires around and repeat the autodiseqc test. If we are correct in the identification/labelling, the tuner that finds 28.2 will have swapped around.
I would suggest that the unicable wire should stay in Tuner A for sake of ease in subsequent steps. But it does not really matter. Please confirm which wire is in which tuner.
Disable the tuner with universal wire.
Set the tuner with the wire from unicable port correctly.
Restart
Perform a manual scan using the tuner with the unicable wire. Ensure correct tuner is selected, and correct type of scan "single satellite".
If you get 800+ services everything is good.
Set the other 6 tuners to unicable. Ensure the "connected to" option is set to the tuner with the signal wire. I recommended A for sake of ease
Leave the tuner with universal LNb as not configured for now
Create bouquets
Record several services. This will ensure that you use multiple tuners.
If all OK, set the tuner with the universal wire and configure rest of your options, skins softcams etc.
You guys are geniuses. Abu think you were right with the Back up.
Only have the one tuner enabled and have 7 recordings going and they are between HD and SD so defiantly different transponders.
I did cheat though once I saw that the channels were scanning, I tried autobouquet maker it did not work, I then disabled the Unicable tuner, engaged the universal, done the scan and then disengaged the universal, and reengaged the unicable, robotted and all working.
Again thanks everyone
abu baniaz
11-03-21, 18:27
ABM needs a root/physical tuner. You will be fine once the second tuner with universal port is configured. After you set tuners C-H, you can also set your "preferred DVB-S tuner" to be C in the Tuner > miscellaneous options menu. That will mean A and B will usually be free.
This thread really helped too
https://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?60640-GT-Sat-GT-dLNB1DY-and-tuner-configuration
ABM needs a root/physical tuner. You will be fine once the second tuner with universal port is configured. After you set tuners C-H, you can also set your "preferred DVB-S tuner" to be C in the Tuner > miscellaneous options menu. That will mean A and B will usually be free.
Set that up preferred tuner C and preferred recording tuner D
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