Sky q complicated issues (questions)

[joysleep1]

Hi Guys

So i will try explain my situation as clearly as possible.

So my current set up is a standard satellite dish with an OCTO LNB installed

3 satellite cables are going into my living room into my xtrend 8000

2 satellite cables are doing into my parents room into the ZGEMMA h9 receiver

2 cables are going into my room (loft room) into my ultimo 4k FBC satellite tuner.

Now i have sky q going to be installed next Friday. This will be installed in the living room so the xtrend will become redundant.This is where my parents mostly watch their tv.

Now when i get sky Q installed will all my existent satellite cables have to be replaced?

If the LNB will only require changing i have already told them to make sure they use the LNB where i can still have 4 traditional legacy ports. (this will be for my parents room and my loft room. ). ( dont care about the living room ones because they are being replaced by sky q). I definitely want to keep my satellite input for my parents and my room. I think the engineer will have to install a

SKY Q Hybrid LNB 6 WAY Model EL010 / EL028

https://admireit.co.uk/products/sky-q-hybrid-lnb-6-way-model-el010

Please confirm that item will do what i require?

Now to my next question if all that will work is, out of the 2 wideband points, how many does SKy Q use for their receiver?
Do they need to use both or just one?

Sorry if this does not make sense but its a bit hard to explain. Hopefully someone here can advise me.

Thanks

[abu baniaz]

Now when i get sky Q installed will all my existent satellite cables have to be replaced?

The existing cables can be used.




I think the engineer will have to install a SKY Q Hybrid LNB 6 WAY Model EL010 / EL028
Please confirm that item will do what i require?

Yes that will work.



Now to my next question if all that will work is, out of the 2 wideband points, how many does SKy Q use for their receiver?
Do they need to use both or just one?


The Sky Q receiver will use the two wideband connections. One is Vertical plane, other is Horizonatal plane.

[joysleep1]

The existing cables can be used.



Yes that will work.



The Sky Q receiver will use the two wideband connections. One is Vertical plane, other is Horizonatal plane.


Oh thanks Abu.

OK that's good to know
And I take it they can all be used at the same time without interference right?

[abu baniaz]

They wil all independent, just like how they are now. :)

[joysleep1]

They wil all independent, just like how they are now. :)

OK nice.
Thanks for your input.

[Andy_Hazza]

When the Sky engineer comes, tell them you want a 6 way Sky Q Hybrid LNB installing. Important you say that. They’ll have them on the van.


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[joysleep1]

When the Sky engineer comes, tell them you want a 6 way Sky Q Hybrid LNB installing. Important you say that. They’ll have them on the van.


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Yh I already mentioned to the guy on the phone and will mention it again when the engineer calls.
Thanks

[joysleep1]

Hey Guys

Ok so i got sky q installed yesterday and everything happened exactly the way i wanted. He installed a 6 port hybrid LNB. He installed a new dish because my current one was old. So its a fairly standard dish with the 6 port hybrid.

Now i wanted to ask, i kinda liked the 2 wideband ports going into my sky q receiver in the living room and i think it would also be nice having 2 wideband ports going into my satellite FBC tuner. I am assuming if i do this i would be able to use the tuner to the max because it is connected in FBC mode as opposed to the legacy ports.

The only issue is that i only have 2 wideband ports going into the sky q and there is no LNB that exists that has more than 2. Is there a possibly i can add another LNB which would allow me to use another 2 wideband points on the same satellite dish using 28.2 astra

It seems a hassle having to buy another dish because there is not much space to put another one outside my terrace house.
Would this be possible at all? I will try post pictures of my current dish and set up but its a standard new satellite dish with a 6 port hybrid LNB.

Thanks

[abu baniaz]

Enigma2 is not coded to use wideband LNBs and as you said you do not get LNBs with multiple wideband ports. I don't know if you can use a splitter like on Unicable LNB.

The viable option is to use a Sky Q compatible Unicable switch. Most need a quattro LNB.

[joysleep1]

Enigma2 is not coded to use wideband LNBs and as you said you do not get LNBs with multiple wideband ports. I don't know if you can use a splitter like on Unicable LNB.

The viable option is to use a Sky Q compatible Unicable switch. Most need a quattro LNB.


I thought the fbc satellite tuners are wideband lnb right?

[joysleep1]

Enigma2 is not coded to use wideband LNBs and as you said you do not get LNBs with multiple wideband ports. I don't know if you can use a splitter like on Unicable LNB.

The viable option is to use a Sky Q compatible Unicable switch. Most need a quattro LNB.

So what lnb do I need to use my satellite fbc tuner on my ultimo 4k?

[joysleep1]

?Hi

I have attached a photo of my current dish with the LNB sky installed for me.

So the two black cables are the sky q ones which are connected to the wide LNB ports and the 4 other ports are connected to a Zgemma twin (2 feeds) and an ultimo 4k with an FBC satellite tuner (2feeds).
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So my questions would be how can i use the the ultimo 4k FBC satellite tuner with my exising dish? Is this posible ?

[abu baniaz]

Connect two cables from the LNB (not wideband ports) to the tuners on Ultimo 4K. Set tuner A and B as: simple, single, 28.2.

I am presuming you only have one tuner card on the receiver. Letters I have used are nothing to do with letters on back of box.

[joysleep1]

Connect two cables from the LNB (not wideband ports) to the tuners on Ultimo 4K. Set tuner A and B as: simple, single, 28.2.

I am presuming you only have one tuner card on the receiver. Letters I have used are nothing to do with letters on back of box.

Hi

So there is no way I can use my ultimo 4k fbc tuner on fbc mode using my existing dish?

[abu baniaz]

Hi

So there is no way I can use my ultimo 4k fbc tuner on fbc mode using my existing dish?

Hi, there is no such thing as FBC mode. If you are asking if you can make all the tuners/demodulators work independently, that is only possible if you have a unicable/Jess LNB or switch. As you have a Sky Q unit in your setup, the switch with a quattro LNB is the best option. Search for following on Ebay

UNITRON DCSS 422 DSCR ADD ON LEGACY ADAPTOR + POWER SUPPLY BRAND NEW CONVERTER

[joysleep1]

Hi, there is no such thing as FBC mode. If you are asking if you can make all the tuners/demodulators work independently, that is only possible if you have a unicable/Jess LNB or switch. As you have a Sky Q unit in your setup, the switch with a quattro LNB is the best option. Search for following on Ebay

UNITRON DCSS 422 DSCR ADD ON LEGACY ADAPTOR + POWER SUPPLY BRAND NEW CONVERTER


So what would the difference be if my fbc tuner is connected to the Unicable lnb as opposed to the legacy ports on my current dish?

[abu baniaz]

With a universal LNB: You can set two tuners as 28.2 (if they have wires hooked up to them). The other 6 will be in FBC automatic, i.e loop through mode.
With a Unicable switch/LNB: All 8 tuners can be set as 28.2.

You keep saying dish, but I think you mean LNB.

[joysleep1]

With a universal LNB: You can set two tuners as 28.2 (if they have wires hooked up to them). The other 6 will be in FBC automatic, i.e loop through mode.
With a Unicable switch/LNB: All 8 tuners can be set as 28.2.

You keep saying dish, but I think you mean LNB.

Right so when I mean fbc mode I meant that all 8 tuners can be used. So that's the main advantage.
I only wished it could be possible with my current satellite dish. I don't really understand this switch thing.
So I can basically get a 2nd dish with a Unicable lnb. My main question is that I currently have two wires going into my fbc tuner from legacy ports. How would it work with the Unicable lnb. Does it only require one cable?

[abu baniaz]

You don't need to change your dish. Just the LNB on it. A quattro LNB, 40mm adapter and switch will be cheaper and tidier than two dishes and a unicabe LNB.



How would it work with the Unicable lnb. Does it only require one cable?


You can use one cable or split the cable. Choice is yours, but better for both tuner inputs to have signal supply to avoid blackouts when ABM runs although there is a workaround. The splitter can be next to the receiver or wherever convenient. Just to add, unicable LNBs have one output port for unicable, they support 24/32 SCR channels across multiple receivers. So you have to use splitters to make full use of them.

[joysleep1]

You don't need to change your dish. Just the LNB on it. A quattro LNB, 40mm adapter and switch will be cheaper and tidier than two dishes and a unicabe LNB.



You can use one cable or split the cable. Choice is yours, but better for both tuner inputs to have signal supply to avoid blackouts when ABM runs although there is a workaround. The splitter can be next to the receiver or wherever convenient. Just to add, unicable LNBs have one output port for unicable, they support 24/32 SCR channels across multiple receivers. So you have to use splitters to make full use of them.


Hi

But a quattro LNB would not allow me to keep my legacy ports right?

[abu baniaz]

But a quattro LNB would not allow me to keep my legacy ports right?
It depends what type switch you connect to the quattro LNB. You can't connect a quattro LNB directly to a receiver, you have to use a switch. Nothing in your previous posts indicates why you would need "legacy ports". Your xtrend and zgemma will all work off the unicable switch or LNB. I am guessing you have one "tuner card" on your ultimo 4K, so that will take up a maximum of 8 SCR channels.

[joysleep1]

It depends what type switch you connect to the quattro LNB. You can't connect a quattro LNB directly to a receiver, you have to use a switch. Nothing in your previous posts indicates why you would need "legacy ports". Your xtrend and zgemma will all work off the unicable switch or LNB. I am guessing you have one "tuner card" on your ultimo 4K, so that will take up a maximum of 8 SCR channels.

Hmm
I think I'll just leave it as it is.
I was just hoping I can buy a dual lnb holder

[URL="http://https://www.******.com/products/Universal-Twin-LNB-Holder.html"]http://https://www.******.com/products/Universal-Twin-LNB-Holder.html[/URL

https://www.satgear.co.uk/td-flexi-block-twin-lnb-holder-300719.html

https://www.******.com/products/Universal-Twin-LNB-Holder.html
Something like that where I can buy a Unicable lnb in conjunction with my current sky lnb. I was hoping to avoid switches because they sound too complicated.
How do dual LNBs work on satellite dishes then?

[abu baniaz]

You can't have two LNBs on the same dish to receive the same satellite. Another dish may be the easier/simpler solution for you if you want to pursue this.

Should you be interested a quattro LNB and switch, there is a switch on ebay, current bid is £1.20. ~4hrs left.

[joysleep1]

You can't have two LNBs on the same dish to receive the same satellite. Another dish may be the easier/simpler solution for you if you want to pursue this.

Should you be interested a quattro LNB and switch, there is a switch on ebay, current bid is £1.20. ~4hrs left.


Oh I get you. I had no idea the position of the lnb had to be the same. I thought as long as the dish is facing the right way it would be possible.
Thanks for your input abu.
Appreciate it.
Sorry for my ignorance in this area and thanks for being patient

[joysleep1]

HI Guys

This is a picture of my old dish the an octo LNB that was used.

Does anyone know if this dish would be unicable compatible? Would it work with this dish or does unicable set ups only work with special dishes?

Thanks

[bmitie]

I dont have unicable as cables everywhere but unicable will work with this dish, you may need an adaptor for the collar. And if you have a good signal with sky then you will be fine. Unicable are now coming with legacy ports!! to cater for us oldies.

I don't know your box but make sure its compatible with the unicable you buy.

[joysleep1]

I dont have unicable as cables everywhere but unicable will work with this dish, you may need an adaptor for the collar. And if you have a good signal with sky then you will be fine. Unicable are now coming with legacy ports!! to cater for us oldies.

I don't know your box but make sure its compatible with the unicable you buy.


Hi

Erm how would I know I need an adapter and where can I buy them from.
I read from some other forums that apparently the Unicable lnb isn't compatible with sky dishes because it won't fit. Some say you can some some domt but there isn't a way to know for sure.
I would want to buy one and hire someone to install this but if it won't work it would just be a waste of time.

Generally my signal from sky is good.

I plan to use the Unicable lnb with my ultimo 4k fbc satellite receiver

[bmitie]

Aha, as you will be getting an installer then they will know but SKY dishes are a funny shape and the sky lnb is designed for that dish to get best performance. The collar is not standard but you can get an adapter. The unicable is 40mm collar and this would be the adapter

://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00FX7QAPE?tag=duckduckgo-brave-uk-21&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1[/url]

Your dish looks old so I would advise get a better dish ie a triax, lnb will fit so no adapter.

Make sure your installer knows about unicable..

Do a quick google and you wil get a nice guide on the use of unicable at a forum like linux.

And if you have openvix on your receiver then its easy to set tuners.