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Widower2008
11-11-20, 12:23
Hi all,

managed to get an Inverto ISKY-UST110-CUO10-32P and am wondering if I can use it with my Gigablue UHD UE 4k I have it connected between a Triax quattro LNB and triax Multi-switch TMS 532. I can use Tuner A and B connected either to the Unicable port on the Inverto direct or via the Triax multi-switch also other TV's work with satellite feeds from the multi-switch too. How can I configure my Gigablue to take advantage of this or is it not possible?

twol
11-11-20, 14:48
Hi all,

managed to get an Inverto ISKY-UST110-CUO10-32P and am wondering if I can use it with my Gigablue UHD UE 4k I have it connected between a Triax quattro LNB and triax Multi-switch TMS 532. I can use Tuner A and B connected either to the Unicable port on the Inverto direct or via the Triax multi-switch also other TV's work with satellite feeds from the multi-switch too. How can I configure my Gigablue to take advantage of this or is it not possible?
So whats the lnb(s) connected to ?? How many dishes do you plan on having?

Widower2008
11-11-20, 18:37
Currently setup with Triax Mini Quattro LNB 0.3db connected to Inverto ISKY-UST110-CUO10-32P (HH, HV, LH and LV) with a link off to one of the DVB-S tuner inputs on the Gigablue UHD UE 4k. The Inverto is then connected onto a Triax TMS 532 SE AQ-BS 32 Way Multiswitch, which I have then connected to the second DVB-S tuner input on the Gigablue UHD UE 4k. so covering both bases currently! Not sure exactly how I should connect this up and configure it all. I also have a couple of Sony TV's which are using connections from the Triax multiswitch. I don't currently intend to add any extra dishes or LNBs yet. I also have FM, DAB and VHF coming in through Triax TFC combiner, Inverto, onto Multiswitch and out through Quadplexed Outlet Modules. to every room in the house and out to my office in the garden.

twol
11-11-20, 19:42
Currently setup with Triax Mini Quattro LNB 0.3db connected to Inverto ISKY-UST110-CUO10-32P (HH, HV, LH and LV) with a link off to one of the DVB-S tuner inputs on the Gigablue UHD UE 4k. The Inverto is then connected onto a Triax TMS 532 SE AQ-BS 32 Way Multiswitch, which I have then connected to the second DVB-S tuner input on the Gigablue UHD UE 4k. so covering both bases currently! Not sure exactly how I should connect this up and configure it all. I also have a couple of Sony TV's which are using connections from the Triax multiswitch. I don't currently intend to add any extra dishes or LNBs yet. I also have FM, DAB and VHF coming in through Triax TFC combiner, Inverto, onto Multiswitch and out through Quadplexed Outlet Modules. to every room in the house and out to my office in the garden.
Just checking! - is the link off the legacy or unicable ??

Widower2008
12-11-20, 01:04
The link appears to be a unicable link to the gigablue UHD UE box

abu baniaz
12-11-20, 02:59
PDF of manuals attached.

One of our developers had this and was using it on an Ultimo 4K. You will have to select the item and assign each SCR to the tuner/demodulators you want.

abu baniaz
12-11-20, 03:20
Follow the unicable setup guide. Instead of LNB, select switch. Assign every tuner "hooked up" to the switch a unique SCR.

"Connected" means "shared connection". So say yes, connected to the physical tuner that has signal wire from unicable output.

Widower2008
12-11-20, 11:09
PDF of manuals attached.

One of our developers had this and was using it on an Ultimo 4K. You will have to select the item and assign each SCR to the tuner/demodulators you want.

Thank you - I have an Inverto ISKY-UST110-CUO10-32P is this the same?

abu baniaz
12-11-20, 17:15
Pretty sure it is. Double check what the 4 digit model number is. Process is still same no matter what the device. Important thing is frequency/channels match.

Widower2008
12-11-20, 17:52
Pretty sure it is. Double check what the 4 digit model number is. Process is still same no matter what the device. Important thing is frequency/channels match.

5405 is the item number

abu baniaz
12-11-20, 18:37
I can't find the itme on the inverto site, maybe you will havemore luck.

https://www.inverto.tv/multiswitch


The frequncies are listed on the front of the device. Can you attach a picture? Check if they match what is on xml file that we have listed. Scroll through them in satellite config or here:
https://github.com/OpenViX/enigma2/blob/master/data/unicable.xml#L175:L185

Widower2008
13-11-20, 14:37
I can't find the itme on the inverto site, maybe you will havemore luck.

https://www.inverto.tv/multiswitch


The frequncies are listed on the front of the device. Can you attach a picture? Check if they match what is on xml file that we have listed. Scroll through them in satellite config or here:
https://github.com/OpenViX/enigma2/blob/master/data/unicable.xml#L175:L185


Here is a picture of the inverto device! Hope this helps
Love to have a simple guide on how to setup the tuners so I can both record and watch channels at the same time and get the most out of the box please.

60877

ccs
13-11-20, 14:41
A bit easier to read....

Odd that the thumbnail is still up side down.

Widower2008
13-11-20, 14:53
I had to rotate the image but .... no idea why the thumbnail is inverted!
I only rotated 90 deg as well!

Widower2008
13-11-20, 15:08
Looks like it matches the IDLU-UST110-CUO4O-32P for the user bands - i.e. not including the sky ones.....
But it has a position 2 option which I have no idea about....

twol
13-11-20, 16:15
Looks like it matches the IDLU-UST110-CUO4O-32P for the user bands - i.e. not including the sky ones.....
But it has a position 2 option which I have no idea about....
I would be tempted to ask Inverto about this switch. As its programmable, it maybe that you program for Sky or only for EN50494 or EN50607 protocols

Nothing comes up in their product list so it appears to be a Sky installer special. They have other 54XX switches in their product list but they only support Sky legacy boxes

Widower2008
13-11-20, 16:41
I would be tempted to ask Inverto about this switch. As its programmable, it maybe that you program for Sky or only for EN50494 or EN50607 protocols

Nothing comes up in their product list so it appears to be a Sky installer special. They have other 54XX switches in their product list but they only support Sky legacy boxes

Just got a message back from Inverto!


"I assume you have item 5405.



If you are connecting a non Sky box you have to use the User Band frequencies assigned for “EN50494/EB50607” as depicted below.
60878

Please contact you Dealer or supplier of your Gigablue device to get further information how to configure this device. Most probaly you also can find support in internet forums.

Best regards, / Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Inverto Support"

I don't have a dealer as got it off ebay and so hoping the forum can help :)

twol
13-11-20, 17:25
Just got a message back from Inverto!


"I assume you have item 5405.



If you are connecting a non Sky box you have to use the User Band frequencies assigned for “EN50494/EB50607” as depicted below.
60878

Please contact you Dealer or supplier of your Gigablue device to get further information how to configure this device. Most probaly you also can find support in internet forums.

Best regards, / Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Inverto Support"

I don't have a dealer as got it off ebay and so hoping the forum can help :)
So I guess connect up to input A on the receiver and select SCRs based on the switch and see if it works!

abu baniaz
13-11-20, 17:36
Follow this:
https://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?59959-Unicable-II-Inverto-IDLU-32UL40-UNB00-0PP-FBC-tuners&p=474171&viewfull=1#post474171

As mentioned earlier, instead of LNB, select switch. Each tuner must be assigned a unique SCR.

Just to repeat earlier comment, "Connected" means "shared connection". So if the signal wire is hooked up toTuner A, all the others sharing thos signal source should be set to:- Connected = yes and selecting connect to tuner A.
You said you have a universal output hooked up to one of the tuners, so I presume that is B.

Widower2008
16-11-20, 11:27
PDF of manuals attached.

One of our developers had this and was using it on an Ultimo 4K. You will have to select the item and assign each SCR to the tuner/demodulators you want.

I now have a file from Inverto which may !

60886

Also from the email they say

You can use this switch either (text out of the specifications):



When there is no active User Band or when a Legacy (non SCR) STB is connected to any of the

output ports, the port responds to standard DiSEqC1.x commands for band and polarity selection.

Port 2 also supports 13/18V 0/22kHz control signals (in addition to standard DiSEqC1.x

commands) for band and polarity selection. As soon as the port receives a Sky UK/EN50494/

EN50607 command, it will switch to the respective Unicable mode.



Best regards, / Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Inverto Support

Tel : +352 26 43 67 0

Web : www.inverto.tv

abu baniaz
16-11-20, 12:12
What you have to do is the same. Aren't the instruction from post 17/18 not clear enough? If not, where are you getting lost?

Widower2008
16-11-20, 17:19
What you have to do is the same. Aren't the instruction from post 17/18 not clear enough? If not, where are you getting lost?

I have set up the tuners as follows :-

Main tuner A
60887

Tuner B (Actually has a cable from the Triax Multiswitch not the Inverto Multiswitch currently
60888

Tuner C
60889

Tuner D
60890

Tuner E
60891

Tuner F
60893

Tuner G
60894

Tuner H
60892

Is there a way I can now test my setup to check all Tuners are working and what they are doing - please note I started Tuner A with User Band 5 (985Mhz) with C through to H using Band 6 onwards - one band per Tuner so that they are all in the same EN50607 as last time I had started at Band 1 and gone up. But believe after receiving the mail from Inverto that I need them all in the same standard as the first command would setup how it works somehow.

Thanks for all your help so far

abu baniaz
16-11-20, 17:30
A: No need for diseqc setting. You are not using a diseqc switch.
B: Simple, single, 28.2 will do. It is direct from switch and independent of the unicable equipment

C-H LNB numbers are wrong. Disable the ones you have set and and configure as LNB 1. Rest of settings are fine.

Not sure about the ENxxx, unicable 2 is backward compatible with unicable 1. Otherwise you can never use those first 4 SCR

abu baniaz
16-11-20, 17:40
Is there a way I can now test my setup to check all Tuners are working and what they are doing


If you set preferred tuner and change it one at a time that will hop between them. A restart is required. You can see the tuner letter in use.

Menu > Setup > Tuners & Scanning > Miscellaneous > Preferred tuner DVB-S

Widower2008
16-11-20, 18:34
A: No need for diseqc setting. You are not using a diseqc switch.
B: Simple, single, 28.2 will do. It is direct from switch and independent of the unicable equipment

C-H LNB numbers are wrong. Disable the ones you have set and and configure as LNB 1. Rest of settings are fine.

Not sure about the ENxxx, unicable 2 is backward compatible with unicable 1. Otherwise you can never use those first 4 SCR

Is it worth connecting the second port on the Inverto switch to tuner B Would that increase the number of channels I might be able to record at any one time.
Doesn't the Inverto require DiSEqC commands to help select Bands etc for the ISKY-UST110-CUO1O-32P?

Also what are the limits for recording the a USB3 SATA 6Gb/s HDD?

abu baniaz
16-11-20, 18:44
Whether tuner B gets a signal from the unicable or universal switch, it is still independent. Your setup now has all 8 independent. You won't gain anything.

It is a unicable switch where all the bands are available on one cable. There is no switching between bands required, they are all available.

I don't know about the USB 3 recording limits. Try it and see.

dubrov
27-11-20, 20:01
I have a very similar switch ISKY-UST110-CUO8O-16P.
It seems to be able to detect automatically whether legacy or Unicable connections are required. I have it fed from a Quattro LNB and add a terrestrial feed (You really need sat and terrestrial in Ireland). The switch combines the two on all outputs.

A few tips I learned
EN50494 = Unicable I
EN50607 = Unicable II also called JESS

You just need to make sure the Unicable frequencies for each tuner match the spec of your switch and the the of Unicable
E.g. For your switch
User Band 1 = 1210MHz Unicable
User Band 2 = 1420MHz Unicable
User Band 5 = 985MHz JESS
User Band 5 = 1050MHz JESS
etc.

Also make sure that all your tuners are set to different user bands / frequencies as otherwise they will clash.

I have a single feed going to the sat input of a Gigablue UHD UE 4k and can record 8 sat channels simultaneously.
The way I tested was to just keep recording channels until you can see all tuners are used. Note a single tuner can record multiple channels at the same time if they are on the same Mux.