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BrianTheTechieSnail
13-05-20, 22:07
Is there a setting to change behaviour when keying in a channel number on the remote so that if I key in a non existent channel number the box doesn't just go to the first channel?
I'd like it to stay on the same channel, or maybe to go to the nearest channel to the number I keyed in.

BrianTheTechieSnail
14-05-20, 21:10
Should this be somewhere else?

The trouble is I'm not sure if I'm making a suggestion for an improvement or if I just haven't figured out how to configure OpenVIX so this works as I want.

Willo3092
14-05-20, 22:03
When you key the number in, it should bring the channel name up under the number.
If it doesn't, there is a zap delay which gives you chance to press the back button to cancel.

BrianTheTechieSnail
17-05-20, 22:02
Good point.

However it still seems wrong that it can just zap me to 101.

I notice that, at least how I have it set up, it's even more bizarre:
I can key 555 (which doesn't exist) and after timeout will be zapped to 101.
But I can key 5555 (which also doesn't exist) and I get to stay tuned to the current channel.

It seems I can key 0 to get back from being zapped to 101 though.

Willo3092
17-05-20, 22:41
ViX differs from ATV in that it gives a delay to give you chance to press back if you make a mistake keying in the channel number.
You can press the channel number and OK to go to it without the delay.
0 is the panic button. It zaps to the first channel if enabled or if it not, it will toggle between the last 2 watched channels.
It may depend on how many digits the channel number is set to in settings if you key in a 4 digit number.

BrianTheTechieSnail
18-05-20, 01:15
I know this. Except I'm not interested in what ATV (whatever that is) does.

It's still totally bizarre that anyone would think that when I key in a non existent channel number it should sometime be taken to mean go to 101 (daft) and sometime be ignored (sensible)

Was OpenVIX created entirely by teens who were afraid of their parents catching them watching porn?

Willo3092
18-05-20, 09:08
I like the panic button feature. When BBC put up the red screen with dogs barking at 18:30 I just have to press 0 to get to my local news.
I can't remember 2,500 channel numbers so just use the EPG to choose what channel to watch.
What would you like to happen when you key in a wrong channel number?

ronand
18-05-20, 09:14
Was OpenVIX created entirely by teens who were afraid of their parents catching them watching porn?

I love your attitude. You didn't pay the Openvix team anything. No-one is forcing you to use their image. Instead of insulting the team you could contribute to the code and fix your problem if you were actually a tech head

abu baniaz
18-05-20, 09:14
I think he said it already, do nothing.

ronand
18-05-20, 09:43
I've just checked on my own receiver and everything works correctly. I tried 555 which is a non-existent channel on my box and nothing happened as expected.

When reporting "bugs" one should upload a debug log - the reasons are in the name "debug"

ronand
18-05-20, 09:47
I've just noticed that "Number of digits in channel number" needs to be set to 1 more than the desired amount. I'm pretty sure it doesn't have any bearing on the OPs issue which I can't replicate.

ccs
18-05-20, 11:31
I've just checked on my own receiver and everything works correctly. I tried 555 which is a non-existent channel on my box and nothing happened as expected.


Mine always goes back to 1 I'm afraid, whatever settings I might change.

adm
18-05-20, 12:25
I've just checked on my own receiver and everything works correctly. I tried 555 which is a non-existent channel on my box and nothing happened as expected.


Xtrend ET10K, Skin Vix Night HD, 5.3.029
I'm seeing the same as ronand - key in a number for a non-existant channel and the current channel is maintained - the behaviousr is the same for 555 and 5555.

ccs
18-05-20, 12:47
I've just noticed that "Number of digits in channel number" needs to be set to 1 more than the desired amount. I'm pretty sure it doesn't have any bearing on the OPs issue which I can't replicate.

I think maybe it does, the number of digits you can actually type in is one less than the value of Number of digits in channel number.

I've found if I set it to 5, then 5555 stays at the current channel, but 555 goes back to 1.

If I set it to 4, typing in 5555 (only 555 is displayed), it stays at at the current channel, but 555 goes back to 1, as does 55.

Work that one out.:)

EDIT: The number of digits you can see typed in is one less than Number of digits in channel number, but the number of digits used is Number of digits in channel number.

BrianTheTechieSnail
18-05-20, 12:49
Sorry, must have missed the link for donating to the OpenVIX team.
I donated to the running of world-of-satelite.com though.

Excellent. We have, at last, established that something weird is going on with my system.
So now I know it's a bug and not weird design maybe I start to investigate how to get this debug log.

spanner123
18-05-20, 12:51
I just tried this on my Solo2 running Vix 5.3.029 and when i typed in 555 it changed channel to 101. But not only changed channel it changed bouguets also from favourites to all channels!

Willo3092
18-05-20, 13:27
I think it defaults to the first channel of the first bouquet.
I've set BBC1 East Midlands as channel 100 and the panic button zaps to that channel from whatever bouquet I'm currently in. (and that's how I like it :) )

adm
18-05-20, 13:46
I think maybe it does, the number of digits you can actually type in is one less than the value of Number of digits in channel number.

I've found if I set it to 5, then 5555 stays at the current channel, but 555 goes back to 1.

Ah, it behaves differently in different bouquets

Satellite (A favourites bouquet totally created in Webif from scratch ,named fav_freesat, which contains around 45 channels)

Set to 5
5555 stays on current channel (after timeout)
555 stays on current channel (after timeout)

Satellite (Sky FTA created by ABM contains around 210 channels)

Set to 5
555 goes to first channel in bouquet (BBC1 SD in my case)
5555 stays on current channel (after timeout)

Terrestrial (Freeview All channels created by ABM containing around 110 channels)

Set to 5
555 goes to first channel in bouquet (BBC1 SD in my case)
5555 stays on current channel (after timeout)

Note: in ABM I have quite a few hiden sections for Sky FTA so the list may be a lot longer.

ccs
18-05-20, 13:52
... thanks for that, my brain was struggling earlier.

ps the "timeout" is configurable, you can even set it to use "ok" to accept what you've typed.

BrianTheTechieSnail
18-05-20, 13:59
Okay, FWIW, debug log is attached.
60222

ronand
18-05-20, 14:55
I can confirm the issue now - I don't use ABM so it didn't affect me. I did an ABM scan on freesat and it appears.

adm
18-05-20, 15:30
Ah, it behaves differently in different bouquets

Satellite (A favourites bouquet totally created in Webif from scratch ,named fav_freesat, which contains around 45 channels)

Set to 5
5555 stays on current channel (after timeout)
555 stays on current channel (after timeout)

Satellite (Sky FTA created by ABM contains around 210 channels)

Set to 5
555 goes to first channel in bouquet (BBC1 SD in my case)
5555 stays on current channel (after timeout)

Terrestrial (Freeview All channels created by ABM containing around 110 channels)

Set to 5
555 goes to first channel in bouquet (BBC1 SD in my case)
5555 stays on current channel (after timeout)

Note: in ABM I have quite a few hiden sections for Sky FTA so the list may be a lot longer.

Just to confirm that when it goes to the first channel in the bouquet it doesn't change the bouquet. If in the ABM generated Freeview bouquet 555 selects the first channel in the Freeview bouquet and when in the ABM generated Sky FTA 555 selects the first channel in the Sky FTA bouquet.

BrianG61UK
12-11-23, 23:37
If you enter a channel number in your current bouquet but beyond all the actual channels, it is ignored.

If you enter a number that just corresponds to a gap between channels in your current bouquet, it takes you to the first channel in the bouquet.

Still the same in 6.4.

Sorry, but it still seems a bit weird to me.