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joysleep1
21-02-19, 11:05
Hey guys

I just purchased this a few days ago and set it up last night.

Overall, i am very pleased with this receiver. Openvix works flawlessly and most importantly it plays back my files perfectly with the default player.

Very handy that it allows you to change the remote input because i still get to use my universal xtrend remote which is brilliant.

Any questions about it.

let me know

world-of-satellite.co.uk
21-02-19, 11:35
Thank you for the feedback, for the benefit of other members please post what files you've been playing.

joysleep1
21-02-19, 11:45
Hi

So the main reason i wanted to buy this receiver was to play 7.1 2160p atmost files which my ultimo 4k could not play natively.

Surprisingly this receiver played it back without restarting or crashing. ( i cant explain how).
Very impressed.

biff2005
23-02-19, 12:27
i downloaded a sample file
Elysium 2013 2160p – 1 Minute Sample Footage, this is a MKV file
uploaded this to my box and dont work ?? i have sound but no video...

Sicilian
23-02-19, 12:28
All depends how the files are encoded. Don't loose sight of that this a receiver with media player capabilities, not a media player.

biff2005
23-02-19, 12:40
this box is still new to me so just seeing what it will do

thx for the info...

Sicilian
23-02-19, 12:48
I've tested 4K movies on the H7 that play spot on, also some that don't. H7 plays more 4k files than my Ultimo 4K will play.

joysleep1
23-02-19, 18:46
I've tested 4K movies on the H7 that play spot on, also some that don't. H7 plays more 4k files than my Ultimo 4K will play.

I beg to differ with that. I definitely know a few files that struggle to play on the h7 that play perfectly on the ultimo 4k. Granted it depends on codecs etc but natively I have tested a few files that play on the ultimo better

Sicilian
23-02-19, 18:48
I beg to differ with that. I definitely know a few files that struggle to play on the h7 that play perfectly on the ultimo 4k. Granted it depends on codecs etc but natively I have tested a few files that play on the ultimo better

Again all depends on the encoding.

Sicilian
24-02-19, 07:35
Probably not the spec your looking for, but I've just setup my Zgemma H9.2H (theres 4 different models of H9) with Kodi. Hisilicon models use the actual Kodi media player. I've just tested playback from my complete 4K library. Briefly played each movie. All playback spot on.

Movies are stored on my NAS, gigabit network, H9 has 10/100 Ethernet port, but all play spot on through Kodi.
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OldSkulRide
24-02-19, 08:34
All depends how the files are encoded. Don't loose sight of that this a receiver with media player capabilities, not a media player.

You are indeed very correct. Even though we, users of the newest and greatest sat receivers, want to have almost complete media support, sadly this is not happening. Broadcom for example removed xvid/divx support and this might hurt the most, because many many old series are available on this format only. There is also removal of DTS (downmix) which is also "a disaster".
Cant do much here. I have Duo4k and many files do not open, there is only sound.

Sicilian
24-02-19, 08:39
For media playback I'm getting more and more impressed with Zgemma Hisilicon H9 models, at the moment I'm playing back a 1080p movie that all my broadcom boxes struggle to play in Sync. Even my smart TV's using plex would play video & audio in sync. H9.2H is playing this movie perfect and in sync. I've been messing around trying to know it out of sync by fast forwarding and rewinding, just keeps playing perfect!

I have to say, Zgemma H9 have the best media playback I've experienced with ANY E2 box. Not stutters, no judder, no breakup, just smooth playback even with 4K movies.

joysleep1
24-02-19, 12:10
You are indeed very correct. Even though we, users of the newest and greatest sat receivers, want to have almost complete media support, sadly this is not happening. Broadcom for example removed xvid/divx support and this might hurt the most, because many many old series are available on this format only. There is also removal of DTS (downmix) which is also "a disaster".
Cant do much here. I have Duo4k and many files do not open, there is only sound.

I haven't come across any files that my Ultimo 4k can't play. If there is no sound or restarts or crashes then you play through ext3 player or e2iplayer and it's perfect. It's different with the zgemma because some files stutter which suggest it's a hardware problem because. No hardware problem with the vu models because they are powerful enough. That's my theory anyway.

Sicilian
24-02-19, 13:24
It's different with the zgemma because some files stutter which suggest it's a hardware problem because. No hardware problem with the vu models because they are powerful enough. That's my theory anyway.

Sorry but that is just pure out and out nonsense.... I'll tell you again its down to the encoding of whatever files your playing back and how the drivers support the media codecs. Playing back 4K media files connected to a USB HDD on a receiver over LAN will also have a knock on affect on the playback. Higher the bitrate, higher the chance of having an issue.

I've done a lot of tests with broadcom receivers over the years, ET8000, ET10000, HD2400, Duo2, Solo2, Ultimo 4K, Uno 4K, Uno 4K SE, OS mio 4K, HD51, Zgemma H7, NONE have faultless playback of media files.

The H9 Hislicon CPU is far better suited to media playback than ANY broadcom CPU.

Out of all E2 receivers I've tested media playback with, at the moment I have to day the cheap and cheerfull Zgemma H9 series wins. It's completely blown me away with its media playback performance, gone far beyond my expectations.

joysleep1
24-02-19, 17:19
Sorry but that is just pure out and out nonsense.... I'll tell you again its down to the encoding of whatever files your playing back and how the drivers support the media codecs. Playing back 4K media files connected to a USB HDD on a receiver over LAN will also have a knock on affect on the playback. Higher the bitrate, higher the chance of having an issue.

I've done a lot of tests with broadcom receivers over the years, ET8000, ET10000, HD2400, Duo2, Solo2, Ultimo 4K, Uno 4K, Uno 4K SE, OS mio 4K, HD51, Zgemma H7, NONE have faultless playback of media files.

The H9 Hislicon CPU is far better suited to media playback than ANY broadcom CPU.

Out of all E2 receivers I've tested media playback with, at the moment I have to day the cheap and cheerfull Zgemma H9 series wins. It's completely blown me away with its media playback performance, gone far beyond my expectations.

Yh granted it could be codecs. All I'm saying is I can send you a file which is a standard hdr 2160p that will struggle on the h series zgemma and will work fine on another receiver. But every file that I have tried has played perfectly on my Ultimo 4K. Now if you say that there are files that don't play on your other receivers but play back perfectly on the H9. I would be surprised because I have pretty much tried every single 2160p file with various codecs and plays fine on there. I can send you a file that will not play on the zgemma or that will cause stutter. And to be fair in the specs it's a standard 2160p hdr 10 file which it says it should be able to handle. I also had another person on another forums who tested it and had the same conclusion.
I'm just telling you what I've tested.

Sicilian
24-02-19, 17:38
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Sicilian
25-02-19, 07:20
Ok I've done a lot of testing playing back 4K Media files using native E2 movie player, no external players or plugins. Movies stored on a Synology NAS drive on Gigabit network.

VU+ Uno 4k SE:

Plays all files smooth, number jump buttons DO NOT work, crashes E2 if pressed. 4K Media files up to 50,000kbps bitrate anything above this bitrate can stutter.

ZGemma H7:

Plays all files smooth, number jump buttons work 4K Media files up to 50,000kbps bitrate anything above this bitrate can stutter.

VU+ Ultimo 4K:

Plays all files smooth, number jump buttons DO NOT work, crashes E2 if pressed. 4K Media files up to 60,000kbps bitrate anything above this bitrate can stutter in scenes where bitrate peaks.


Best performing receiver for 4K media playback is the Zgemma H9:

Plays all files smooth, number jump buttons work 4K Media files up to 83,000kbps bitrate anything above this bitrate can stutter. Only movie that stuttered slightly during peak scenes was Lucy, bitrate of 85353kbps, this will be down to the 10/100 Ethernet port as I'm streaming from NAS.

Sicilian
25-02-19, 09:13
Only movie that stuttered slightly during peak scenes was Lucy, bitrate of 85353kbps, this will be down to the 10/100 Ethernet port as I'm streaming from NAS.

Put this movie on USB stick, direct to H9, not a single stutter absolutely smooth. Number jump buttons all work. Winner hands down :)

linsladeboy
25-02-19, 12:43
Not sure if this is totally relevant to this thread , I have a zgemma 7s and have encountered a playback issue.
I downloaded yesterday a couple of foreign films via the eplayer plug in on latest vix image ( films were downloaded to a 128gb usb3 stick connected to usb3 blue port)
When playing files via the "media" icon on eplayer plug in, video starts stuttering and audio gets out a sinc within a couple of minutes .
Funnily enough, these two files play nice and smooth when attached to usb 2 port on my android kodi box.
I am at work now ,but just thought that maybe should have tried to play back files on usb port 2 of zgemma box, so will update later on.

joysleep1
25-02-19, 14:45
I got a lot of stuttering when trying to play this file

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I don't know exactly what coding or how heavy the file is but it struggled. Another member from Linux forums also stated he couldn't get the h7 to play this smoothly.

Sicilian
25-02-19, 17:27
I got a lot of stuttering when trying to play this file

58446

I don't know exactly what coding or how heavy the file is but it struggled. Another member from Linux forums also stated he couldn't get the h7 to play this smoothly.

That should playback fine, sounds more like an issue with the encoding. I've downloaded that episode and the remux I've got is 42286kbps, watching it now with zero issues, yours is only 25500kbps.

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joysleep1
25-02-19, 19:01
That should playback fine, sounds more like an issue with the encoding. I've downloaded that episode and the remux I've got is 42286kbps, watching it now with zero issues, yours is only 25500kbps.

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I don't know what to say. I got plenty of stutter. Maybe me and the other guy on the forum did something wrong. I reflashed and tried. Out of interest tho. Play the file between minute 18 to 23. That part in particular was awful.

joysleep1
25-02-19, 19:14
Ok I've done a lot of testing playing back 4K Media files using native E2 movie player, no external players or plugins. Movies stored on a Synology NAS drive on Gigabit network.

VU+ Uno 4k SE:

Plays all files smooth, number jump buttons DO NOT work, crashes E2 if pressed. 4K Media files up to 50,000kbps bitrate anything above this bitrate can stutter.

ZGemma H7:

Plays all files smooth, number jump buttons work 4K Media files up to 50,000kbps bitrate anything above this bitrate can stutter.

VU+ Ultimo 4K:

Plays all files smooth, number jump buttons DO NOT work, crashes E2 if pressed. 4K Media files up to 60,000kbps bitrate anything above this bitrate can stutter in scenes where bitrate peaks.


Best performing receiver for 4K media playback is the Zgemma H9:

Plays all files smooth, number jump buttons work 4K Media files up to 83,000kbps bitrate anything above this bitrate can stutter. Only movie that stuttered slightly during peak scenes was Lucy, bitrate of 85353kbps, this will be down to the 10/100 Ethernet port as I'm streaming from NAS.

When you say did not work here for example. Did you try playing the file via ext3 player or e2iplayer?

Sicilian
25-02-19, 19:51
Did you read the start of post 17?


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joysleep1
25-02-19, 20:06
Yes so maybe a good test would be to try play using that and see if works. Which files play well which don't. Then we know it's completely incompatible etc

linsladeboy
25-02-19, 21:59
Not sure if this is totally relevant to this thread , I have a zgemma 7s and have encountered a playback issue.
I downloaded yesterday a couple of foreign films via the eplayer plug in on latest vix image ( films were downloaded to a 128gb usb3 stick connected to usb3 blue port)
When playing files via the "media" icon on eplayer plug in, video starts stuttering and audio gets out a sinc within a couple of minutes .
Funnily enough, these two files play nice and smooth when attached to usb 2 port on my android kodi box.
I am at work now ,but just thought that maybe should have tried to play back files on usb port 2 of zgemma box, so will update later on.

I am pretty sure issue is with media player within e2iplayer. Downloaded another movie and still getting stuttering but files play back fine when using own receiver media player via the "list" button on remote.
I am not getting complaining, still think this is a wonderful 4k receiver for the money, picture quality is as good as my other vu+ zero which cost twice as much.