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[db49er]

5.2.027

I am 99% certain that I have the same settings on all three boxes yet the zero is the only one that has "normal" results. The solo and uno put Sky News, ITV 2, 3 and 4 in "Secondary Channels".

Am I doing something wrong or is it just a quirk of the different boxes?

[abu baniaz]

It is a plugin, so receiver you run it on won't make a difference. Provided it is same version of plugin and settings are same.

Upload both debug logs for comparison.

[db49er]

This is from the Solo after running a new ABM scan. I have loaned the Zero to a friend and will retrieve the file on Saturday.

[v8rick]

my zero'S put sky news in secondary channels and good food. it wont record in client mode or any streams .I've given up with them replacing

[abu baniaz]

For reference purposes

< 288.348> [ABM-config] level: expert
< 288.348> [ABM-config] providers: sat_282_sky_uk:hd_tyne:45:|terrestrial_uk_freeview :pontop_pike________:45:
< 288.348> [ABM-config] keepbouquets: All
< 288.348> [ABM-config] hidesections: sat_282_sky_uk:490|sat_282_sky_uk:560|sat_282_sky_ uk:580|sat_282_sky_uk:601|sat_282_sky_uk:660|sat_2 82_sky_uk:701|sat_282_sky_uk:1000|sat_282_sky_uk:1 020|sat_282_sky_uk:1030|sat_282_sky_uk:1050|terres trial_uk_freeview:201|sat_282_sky_uk:994
< 288.348> [ABM-config] add provider prefix: True
< 288.349> [ABM-config] show in extensions menu: False
< 288.349> [ABM-config] placement: top
< 288.349> [ABM-config] skip services on non-configured satellites: True
< 288.349> [ABM-config] show non-indexed: False
< 288.349> [ABM-config] FTA_only: sat_282_sky_uk|terrestrial_uk_freeview
< 288.349> [ABM-config] schedule: True
< 288.350> [ABM-config] schedule time: [6, 0]
< 288.350> [ABM-config] schedule repeat: daily


< 330.576> [ABM-Tools][customLCN] No custom video LCN file for sat_282_sky_uk.
< 330.578> [ABM-Tools][customLCN] No custom radio LCN file for sat_282_sky_uk.
< 330.582> [ABM-Tools][customLCN] No custom video LCN file for terrestrial_uk_freeview.
< 330.583> [ABM-Tools][customLCN] No custom radio LCN file for terrestrial_uk_freeview.
< 330.592> [ABM-Tools][customMix] No CustomMix file for sat_282_sky_uk.

[abu baniaz]

my zero'S put sky news in secondary channels and good food. it wont record in client mode or any streams .I've given up with them replacing

Start your own thread with debug log

[dsayers]

I maybe wrong but is that log using HD region?

It should put sky news, ITV 2, 3 and 4 SD in the secondary bouquet as HD regions put HD channels first.

So ITV 2, 3 and 4 HD should be in entertainment and sky news HD in the news bouquet (unless using HD custom region)

Either use SD or SD custom region to place SD in the entertainment and news bouquets.

[dsayers]

Edit you shouldn't receive the HD variants if using FTA only so SD should be in secondary bouquet.

[abu baniaz]

@db49er

Can you attach your example file from custom folder within ABM too.

If using FTA mode, he will have the Free to Air HD channels. He will not have the Free to View SD/HD channels or any of the subscription channels either.


@Dsayer


(unless using HD custom region)

What do you mean by this please?

[dsayers]

@Dsayer



What do you mean by this please?

I meant if using custom hd region this will remove the unavailable channels on the blocked transponder so Sky News HD wont be in bouquets the SD versions will still be in the secondary bouquet though and itv 2 to 4 hd will still go in entertainment. I made that comment before I saw FTA only in the log < 288.349> [ABM-config] FTA_only: sat_282_sky_uk|terrestrial_uk_freeview

So if he is using HD region and FTA only he will probably just have the SD versions in secondary bouquet with no HD version.

[abu baniaz]

That is not correct. The HD custom will exclude dead channels. The working ones will not be moved over.

[dsayers]

That is not correct. The HD custom will exclude dead channels.

Sorry I'm not sure if you understood me I meant using
HD custom region will remove the unavailable HD and SD channels i.e. in this case sky news HD.

Using custom HD region also means it will use HD order so the above SD channels will be in the secondary bouquet.

I've just tested this by using North West Yorkshire HD custom

ITV 2 to 4 HD is on 118 to 120

No sky news HD in news as it's on a blocked transponder

ITV 2 to 4 SD on 816 to 818
Sky news SD on 875

Using FTA only results in removing ITV 2 to 4 HD and SD still on 816 to 818 along with sky sports news on 875.

That's all I was trying to say so using SD or SD custom region will place then in entertainment and news

I'm not sure what you mean by
The working ones will not be moved over.

I don't think the op is using HD custom region anyway.

[abu baniaz]

I asked as you put a clause in your statement earlier.

[dsayers]

I asked as you put a clause in your statement earlier.

Sorry that just meant you won't get sky news HD in the news bouquet and I wrote that before noticing FTA only in the log

[abu baniaz]

FTA is irrelevant in this case.

Sky News HD is a dead channel. It will be excluded from all bouquets if anyone uses a custom mode.

Anyway, OP is not using custom mode.

[db49er]

Zero debug attached as promised. I am afraid that I cannot find the example file you requested.

[abu baniaz]

Your log does not show a run of ABM. Please ensure you upload a log that is after a run of ABM.

The example files are in
/usr/lib/enigma2/python/Plugins/SystemPlugins/AutoBouquetsMaker/custom/

[db49er]

Sorry about that. I will not have access to it for another week but here are the example files.

[abu baniaz]

The debug log showing ABM run/scan is needed to compare. I'll check example files later.

[abu baniaz]

I only need to compare the following file.

EXAMPLE_hd_sat_282_sky_uk_CustomLCN.xml

[db49er]

Just got my friend to e-mail this and looks as though SD vs HD is the problem. I do not remember setting the Zero any differently from my other two!!!!

[abu baniaz]

what about debug log?

[db49er]

Sorry, my misunderstanding. I got him to send all so I hope these have the required information.

I have just realised that these are probably too old. If so I will run ABM again when I am over there on Saturday.

[abu baniaz]

< 73513.002> [ABM-config] level: expert
< 73513.005> [ABM-config] providers: sat_282_sky_uk:sd_tyne:45:
< 73513.031> [ABM-config] keepbouquets:
< 73513.034> [ABM-config] hidesections: sat_282_sky_uk:490|sat_282_sky_uk:580|sat_282_sky_ uk:601|sat_282_sky_uk:660|sat_282_sky_uk:1000|sat_ 282_sky_uk:1020|sat_282_sky_uk:1030|sat_282_sky_uk :1050|sat_282_sky_uk:994
< 73513.038> [ABM-config] add provider prefix: True
< 73513.040> [ABM-config] show in extensions menu: False
< 73513.042> [ABM-config] placement: top
< 73513.044> [ABM-config] skip services on non-configured satellites: True
< 73513.046> [ABM-config] show non-indexed: False
< 73513.049> [ABM-config] FTA_only: sat_282_sky_uk
< 73513.051> [ABM-config] schedule: True
< 73513.053> [ABM-config] schedule time: [6, 0]
< 73513.055> [ABM-config] schedule repeat: daily


< 73557.100> [ABM-Tools][customLCN] No custom video LCN file for sat_282_sky_uk.
< 73557.114> [ABM-Tools][customLCN] No custom radio LCN file for sat_282_sky_uk.
< 73557.139> [ABM-Tools][customMix] No CustomMix file for sat_282_sky_uk.


One is setup as
sd_tyne

Other is setup as
hd_tyne

This is the difference.

You can remote over to their PC using teamviewer and control box using OpenWebif. If they can debug logs and e-mail them to you, they should be able to setup ABM.

When you are on the area selection, pressing the Recordings/Movie button opens up the list of areas. You can see list better.

[db49er]

Well at least I now have what I consider "correct" bouquets on all three boxes by selecting SD. I do not really understand why HD mixes things up but never mind.

Thank you for your help.

[abu baniaz]

The Broadcaster decides what order they want to transmit the services in. Their luxury is that SD receivers cannot receiver HD services, so they can put them anywhere they like. Enigma2 receivers that run ABM are all HD receivers, so that complicates issues. I suppose once all regions have simulcast SD/HD services, things will become simpler/easier.