View Full Version : Unicable 2 LNB for Sky mini dish ok?
shadowman007
02-01-17, 10:22
Hi, will a unicable 2 lnb work on a sky uk mini dish? Will be getting the VU+Ultimo 4k and want to use the fbc tunner want to use 8 tunners.
yes it will
I have one on mine.
you may need to buy an adaptor to fit in to your dish though depending on what sky dish u have.
Not ideal though because the feed horn is a different shape on minidish LNBs.
Not ideal though because the feed horn is a different shape on minidish LNBs.
Honestly, I have lost 0% signal (infact I might have even gained 1% on some transponders, based on the tuner info in the osd), when I swapped from a Zinwell Octo lnb (that came with the minidish), to an Inverto Unicable II lnb.
Not surprising really. The Unicable II LNB is a quality product. Also, what gets sent to the tuner is just the requested transponders so much less chance of interference.
But there is a physical mismatch between the shape of the dish and the shape of the feed.
Not surprising really. The Unicable II LNB is a quality product. Also, what gets sent to the tuner is just the requested transponders so much less chance of interference.
But there is a physical mismatch between the shape of the dish and the shape of the feed.
Whilst what you are saying is correct, in the real world, it doesn't matter :)
in the real world, it doesn't matter :)Yeah, well the signal from that satellite is so strong in the UK you could just point the LNB at the sky and forget the dish. :roflmao:
shadowman007
02-01-17, 18:09
Thanks for the replies really appreciate it. Also another question what satellite dish would be ideal for the unicable 2 lnb? (if i don’t use the sky mini dish)
Yeah, well the signal from that satellite is so strong in the UK you could just point the LNB at the sky and forget the dish. :roflmao:
I tried that first, as I couldn't be arsed to get the ladder out.
Didn't work
Hi guys.
I'm also planning on getting a Unicable set up to use with my ultimo 4k fbc satellite tuner.
I would also like to know whether it would work with my current dish and what is this adapter thing people are talking about.
I'll post a photo of my dish and see what you guys think.
Also what's the difference between Unicable 1 lnb and Unicable 2 lnb?
Thanks
abu baniaz
21-02-21, 22:53
A Mk 4 sky dish (anything newer than 4 years) will have a 38mm collar. Non-Sky LNBs including unicable have a 40mm collar. Search for 40mm MK4 LNB Adaptor Bracket. Item 352584179793 on ebay is one example.
Just bear in mind that the Sky dishes are eliptical, so their LNBs are squashed to make the most of them. There is a very marginal loss when you use a round LNB. Nothing to worry about, just to be aware of. So yes, you can use a Sky dish with a Unicable LNB.
Hi guys.
I'm also planning on getting a Unicable set up to use with my ultimo 4k fbc satellite tuner.
I would also like to know whether it would work with my current dish and what is this adapter thing people are talking about.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/SKY-DISH-MK4-HOLDER-ADAPTER/dp/B00FX7QAPE
This is the type of adapter you require on a Sky/Freesat Mk4 dish - If you have a different Sky disk you need to establish what Mark number and get the appropriate adapter
Although out of stock at Amazon
https://www.amazon.co.uk/kenable-Adapter-MK1-MK3-Dishes-Clamp/dp/B007JIRDGK
Mk1.Mk2, Mk3 40m adapter.
The Mk4 dish will have a spirit level just in front of the LNB whereas the earlier ones don't - photo ... (note1 satcure no longer trade)
http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/LNBpics.htm
Also what's the difference between Unicable 1 lnb and Unicable 2 lnb?
Thanks
The number of channels - go for unicable II
See (post #2) in the following link
https://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?59981-Guide-to-using-Unicable
For reference only (note 2 old page so unicable not mentioned)
Oval LNB apature
http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/lnb.htm#oval
abu baniaz
21-02-21, 23:35
Also what's the difference between Unicable 1 lnb and Unicable 2 lnb?
Unicable 1 LNB are usually sold with 4 SCR channels although technically cable of more.
Unicable 2/Jess LNBs are usually sold in 24/32 SCR channels although technically cable of more.
IMO, waste of money getting Unicable 1 LNB.
The Mk4 dish will have a spirit level just in front of the LNBWhat is the point in that?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/SKY-DISH-MK4-HOLDER-ADAPTER/dp/B00FX7QAPE
This is the type of adapter you require on a Sky/Freesat Mk4 dish - If you have a different Sky disk you need to establish what Mark number and get the appropriate adapter
Although out of stock at Amazon
https://www.amazon.co.uk/kenable-Adapter-MK1-MK3-Dishes-Clamp/dp/B007JIRDGK
Mk1.Mk2, Mk3 40m adapter.
The Mk4 dish will have a spirit level just in front of the LNB whereas the earlier ones don't - photo ... (note1 satcure no longer trade)
http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/LNBpics.htm
The number of channels - go for unicable II
See (post #2) in the following link
https://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?59981-Guide-to-using-Unicable
For reference only (note 2 old page so unicable not mentioned)
Oval LNB apature
http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/lnb.htm#oval
OK question is how do I know if I got an mk1/2/3 or mk4 dish?
Unicable 1 LNB are usually sold with 4 SCR channels although technically cable of more.
Unicable 2/Jess LNBs are usually sold in 24/32 SCR channels although technically cable of more.
IMO, waste of money getting Unicable 1 LNB.
Thanks Abu.
So if manage to get the right adapter and a Unicable 2 lnb. Is it a simple case of running the cable from the LNB straight into my fbc tuner.
If I domt bother with a splitter, how many channels would it allow me to record?
abu baniaz
21-02-21, 23:46
OK question is how do I know if I got an mk1/2/3 or mk4 dish?
I think that is a Mk 2/3 dish. But looks like you had an improvisation done on the holder. It is a Mk 4 LNB holder
https://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?63981-Sky-q-complicated-issues-(questions)&p=510137&viewfull=1#post510137
abu baniaz
21-02-21, 23:49
Thanks Abu.
So if manage to get the right adapter and a Unicable 2 lnb. Is it a simple case of running the cable from the LNB straight into my fbc tuner.
If I domt bother with a splitter, how many channels would it allow me to record?
I already answered that question in your other thread. All 8 demodulators/tuners can be set. So you will be able to record almost anything you want on 28.2.
I already answered that question in your other thread. All 8 demodulators/tuners can be set. So you will be able to record almost anything you want on 28.2.
Oh right OK
Well I'm glad I can use my current dish. Only issue is the adapter I need is out if stock and i can't find it anywhere else. Also would the satellite cable plug into the top or bottom tuner or it does not matter?
So it should be a simple case of installing the dish and running one of my two existing cables.
Now to find the right Unicable 2 lnb. Anyone know any good ones where I don't have to use a splitter
I think that is a Mk 2/3 dish. But looks like you had an improvisation done on the holder. It is a Mk 4 LNB holder
https://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?63981-Sky-q-complicated-issues-(questions)&p=510137&viewfull=1#post510137
I will try take some more close up pictures and hopefully with everyone expertise they can confirm which dish it is.
I don't know if this helps but my current values on my satellite tuner was around 100 percent snr and 71 percent acg
The values were the same with that dish I had previously so the new sky dish they installed has not affected my signal levels.
abu baniaz
22-02-21, 00:01
Top hole is Tuner A, bottom hole is tuner B. It does not matter which one you sue, just make sure you tell the receiver the one you are using. For sake of ease, use tuner A. You don't have to use a splitter with any unicable device if you only have one tuner unit/card.
This is the cheapest one the forum sponsor sells. It also has a legacy port (ignore that for now)
https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/gt-sat-gt-s1dcss24-unicable-lnb-1-legacy?search=unicable%20lnb
Top hole is Tuner A, bottom hole is tuner B. It does not matter which one you sue, just make sure you tell the receiver the one you are using. For sake of ease, use tuner A. You don't have to use a splitter with any unicable device if you only have one tuner unit/card.
This is the cheapest one the forum sponsor sells. It also has a legacy port (ignore that for now)
https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/gt-sat-gt-s1dcss24-unicable-lnb-1-legacy?search=unicable%20lnb
Thanks Abu
There are no reviews on that one.
I'm thinking this one looks OK
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Maclean-MCTV-785-Satellite-Converter-Technology-Red-Black/dp/B07YLX91FT/ref=mp_s_a_1_19?dchild=1&keywords=unicable+2&qid=1613938360&sr=8-19
Anyone have this one. One of the reviews said used with duo 4k so that's promising.
Let me know what you think.
abu baniaz
22-02-21, 00:16
Either will work.
Either will work.
So for arguments sake if I were to buy one with the legacy port, would there be any benefit connecting my second satellite dish from legacy into tuner b?
Hi Guys
So i have posted more close up photos of my dish and whatever adapter i currently have. Is there anyway of knowing before hand that my adapter will fit this LNB i will buy
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Maclean-MCTV-785-Satellite-Converter-Technology-Red-Black/dp/B07YLX91FT/ref=mp_s_a_1_19?dchild=1&keywords=unicable+2&qid=1613938360&sr=8-19
Hopefully from ther pictures, you guys can tell.
Hi guys
Looking at photos online I think I have an mk4 adapter because I see a spirit level. Would this then suggest that the current adapter will fit most or if not all unicable lnb as they are all 40mm?
Unless I'm totally getting confused here?
abu baniaz
22-02-21, 13:40
Your dish will work. Your dish is a Mk 2 dish as far as I can tell.
Current adapter will not work because it is for 38mm LNBs. You will need to find an adapter that slots into the hole of the arm of that dish. But it must be for 40mm LNBs, not 38mm MK 4 Sky LNBs.
Or if you want to do the same thing as what you had done on that dish (use a bolt to hold it in place, this should do.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/SKY-DISH-MK4-HOLDER-ADAPTER/dp/B00FX7QAPE/ref=sr_1_17?dchild=1&keywords=lnb+holder&qid=1613997232&sr=8-17
I don't like them because the hook/pivots tend to break.
Might be better to buy a 60cm dish and also the bracket to fit dish onto the wall. You can get some dishes for 22.95 delivered. Double check with seller it has a 40mm collar.
abu baniaz
22-02-21, 13:45
So for arguments sake if I were to buy one with the legacy port, would there be any benefit connecting my second satellite dish from legacy into tuner b?
I take it you mean LNB, not dish. If so, yes you could do that. The benefit would be the blackout during ABM would not be experienced***. Tuner configuration must match how you set things up. The tuner with the wire from legacy/ordinary/normal LNB port should be set as simple, single 28.2. Setting it as unicable will ignore the cable.
*** The workaround for ABM/CrossEPG and Unicable users with only one signal wire is to set preferred tuner as something other than the root tuner.
Your dish will work. Your dish is a Mk 2 dish as far as I can tell.
Current adapter will not work because it is for 38mm LNBs. You will need to find an adapter that slots into the hole of the arm of that dish. But it must be for 40mm LNBs, not 38mm MK 4 Sky LNBs.
Or if you want to do the same thing as what you had done on that dish (use a bolt to hold it in place, this should do.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/SKY-DISH-MK4-HOLDER-ADAPTER/dp/B00FX7QAPE/ref=sr_1_17?dchild=1&keywords=lnb+holder&qid=1613997232&sr=8-17
I don't like them because the hook/pivots tend to break.
Might be better to buy a 60cm dish and also the bracket to fit dish onto the wall. You can get some dishes for 22.95 delivered. Double check with seller it has a 40mm collar.
Thanks Abu
I am going to measure the diameter of my current LNB and see what is saying. If its 38mm i will order the one you posted. I really hope this would work when my person installs it.
Does anyone have any good contacts for a dish installation around South West London?
I take it you mean LNB, not dish. If so, yes you could do that. The benefit would be the blackout during ABM would not be experienced***. Tuner configuration must match how you set things up. The tuner with the wire from legacy/ordinary/normal LNB port should be set as simple, single 28.2. Setting it as unicable will ignore the cable.
*** The workaround for ABM/CrossEPG and Unicable users with only one signal wire is to set preferred tuner as something other than the root tuner.
Ok thats interesting. I will have a spare port on my current sky dish so if i go ahead and do this then i would use the 2nd cable to tuner B in legacy mode.
Hi Guys
So with a bit of effort i managed to remove the imcomaptible 38mm collar that was on my old dish.
So plan is to buy the 40mm collar adapter and unicable 2 LNB and get someone to install it.
Hey Guys
Thought i would update on you on how i get on installing a second dish using unicable 2.
So i was going to use my own old sky dish but that looked battered. I purchased a 2nd hand triax sky dish which is bigger than my sky dish that Sky q installed. (see photo)
So i got bought the unicable 2 LND and the 40mm adapter collar and it worked perfectly. I i got the unicable 2 lnb going into a splitter where one feed goes into the living room to my xtrend 8000 and the other feed into my ultimo 4k FBC satellite tuner.
Big thanks to all your help and support here esp Abu who was really helpful.
You guys are geniuses
stargateuser
06-05-21, 09:49
I installed a GT-Sat GT-dLNB3DY lnb and lost half of my channels, the LNB skew is way further round than the sky supplied LNB and my RSSI went from 16db to 7-8 dBm. New dish on the way as I'm guessing the round LNB and oval dish don't match up.
I installed a GT-Sat GT-dLNB3DY lnb and lost half of my channels, the LNB skew is way further round than the sky supplied LNB and my RSSI went from 16db to 7-8 dBm. New dish on the way as I'm guessing the round LNB and oval dish don't match up.
works fine for me
BrokenUnusableAccount
06-05-21, 18:34
I installed a GT-Sat GT-dLNB3DY lnb and lost half of my channels, the LNB skew is way further round than the sky supplied LNB and my RSSI went from 16db to 7-8 dBm. New dish on the way as I'm guessing the round LNB and oval dish don't match up.
Skew needs to be set for best SNR or lowest error rate.
Is that what you did?
(Or you can just set it to the angle that satellite aiming software tells you is correct for your location)
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