who leaves their VU+DUO on constantly ?

[BRAVEHEART]

Just curious to know your preference if you leave your VU+DUO on constantly rather than on
standby when not in use ?

I know quite a few people couldn't care less either way, but just wondering the general feeling
from anyone in here on this subject.

Cheers.

[BRAVEHEART]

Personally I try to remember to leave mines on standby when not being viewed, but a lot of the time I forget and its left on, but I have heard a lot of people on losts of forums including this one saying that they leave the box on all the time and never had a problem for all the years they have had the box, LOL, maybe we should just leave them all on rather than standby, I dont know, my instinct is just to put things on standby, but thinking now, maybe these old boxes like that little bit of heat, hard to say on what stress that really puts on the interior bits and pieces, its a bit like computers too, or computer servers, they can be left on for years, does it make a difference though, thats the thing, hmmm :confused:

[Rob van der Does]

h difference between 'on' and 'standby' is rather limited; only video and audio outputs are switched off, as well as LNB power (provided there are no recordings or streams), but all the internals stay working the same.
Putting the box in deep sleep (i.e. 'off') makes the real difference, but obviously streaming won't be possible then (but it won't influence recordings).

[joysleep1]

h difference between 'on' and 'standby' is rather limited; only video and audio outputs are switched off, as well as LNB power (provided there are no recordings or streams), but all the internals stay working the same.
Putting the box in deep sleep (i.e. 'off') makes the real difference, but obviously streaming won't be possible then (but it won't influence recordings).

So are you saying the box can record in Deep Standby mode?

[ccs]

The box will wake up from deep standby for a timer recording.

It should do the recording in standby mode, (my ET10K does 95% of the time), and then go back to deep standby or whatever, depending on what your timer wants the box to do at the end of the recording.

PS. The "Poll" does not have the option of leaving the box in deep standby when not in use.

[Rob van der Does]

So are you saying the box can record in Deep Standby mode?
LOL... not IN Deep Sleep, but FROM Deep Sleep.
But it saves a lot of energy on yearly basis; Deep Sleep power consumption is around 0.5W (provided WoL isn't activated), while standby will be round 15W. So when the box would be used for say 5 hours a day power consumption will drop by around 100KWh/year

[BRAVEHEART]

but, does box left on without any tv pictures being displayed, I.E- you go out for a couple of days and leave the box on but tv off, does that really have any heavy impact on the actual internals of the machine in reality long term compared to normal standby mode ?

I know it uses a few pennies more per year to leave a box on in electricty costs, but thats not what I am meaning.

[Rob van der Does]

but, does box left on without any tv pictures being displayed, I.E- you go out for a couple of days and leave the box on but tv off, does that really have any heavy impact on the actual internals of the machine in reality long term compared to normal standby mode ?
Absolutely not; as I said the difference between 'on' and 'standby' is very limited. And for displaying TV the box has hardly any CPU-load.
But on the other hand: what would be the advantage of doing that?

[BRAVEHEART]

Absolutely not; as I said the difference between 'on' and 'standby' is very limited. And for displaying TV the box has hardly any CPU-load.
But on the other hand: what would be the advantage of doing that?

was only asking, that's all, I think I said a lot of people leave them on 24/7, but in reality going by your words which I trust, then it means in theory there really is no advantage or dis-advantage to leaving on 24/7 or switching onto standby mode apart from just a few pennies etc per year in electricity costs by the sound of it which means nothing to the point anyway.

So yeah man, thanks for the info, interesting to know that now as I was always one of the ones that went for normal standby mode when the tv is off, but in reality I don't even need to do that, hmmm, sounds good to me, saves me having to try and remember all the time, lol.

[Rob van der Does]

Deep Sleep is the way to go; that is a real money (environment) saver. And easy to automate, no excuses about 'forgetting'.
But I went over that already.

[ccs]

was only asking, that's all, I think I said a lot of people leave them on 24/7, but in reality going by your words which I trust, then it means in theory there really is no advantage or dis-advantage to leaving on 24/7 or switching onto standby mode apart from just a few pennies etc per year in electricity costs by the sound of it which means nothing to the point anyway.

So yeah man, thanks for the info, interesting to know that now as I was always one of the ones that went for normal standby mode when the tv is off, but in reality I don't even need to do that, hmmm, sounds good to me, saves me having to try and remember all the time, lol.The PSU will be running 24/7, powering all the electronics in the box.
Why overuse the box when you don't need to? It probably won't last as long, especially if you have timeshift switched on.

[Rob van der Does]

The PSU will be running 24/7, powering all the electronics in the box.
That's always the case when the box is in standby, as I've pointed out already.


Why overuse the box when you don't need to?
Good question; no idea.


... especially if you have timeshift switched on.
That's indeed not a good idea, not at all....

[ccs]

That's always the case when the box is in standby, as I've pointed out already.Yes, I was arguing the case for deep standby, but never actually mentioned it.:)

[Rob van der Does]

Yes, that's why I point to it again; deep sleep (actually 'off') and standby are often mixed up.

[BRAVEHEART]

I have never used "deep standyby/sleep" in my life with any box.

But anyway, what's this timeshift you guys are talking about ? If I have never seen it or heard of
it which I haven't then is it something I need not bother about or can I check somehow to see
if its defo switched off or what ? Can you tell me what it actually does and will it effect me in
any way if I switch it off ? Oh, and if I should switch it off then where is it I find it on the menu please ?
Cheers.

[gerinemo]

I have never used "deep standyby/sleep" in my life with any box.

But anyway, what's this timeshift you guys are talking about ? If I have never seen it or heard of
it which I haven't then is it something I need not bother about or can I check somehow to see
if its defo switched off or what ? Can you tell me what it actually does and will it effect me in
any way if I switch it off ? Oh, and if I should switch it off then where is it I find it on the menu please ?
Cheers.
Timeshift
Means the box is permanently recording so that you can rewind a program your watching
As far as I know when the program is over it deletes the recording and starts again recording the program that is now showing
so if you try to rewind the program that has only been showing for 2 mins then you can only go back 2 mins but if it was near the end you could go all the way back but when its over the recording will be gone

Obviously you would need a hard drive installed for this to work

Happy Christmas

[Rob van der Does]

Obviously you would need a hard drive installed for this to work
Or use any other device to which you can record (USB/NAS/other STB).

[sticky7]

Power timer for standby after 180mins repeated. Power timer for deep standby at 23 45 and wake up at 0600. Works well for me and gives old duo a breather every night.

[sticky7]

Also use pluginskinmover on the duo to move some plugins to USB. Been running for a couple of months with no issues. Lets me have IPTV and others running with still 30mb flash free.

[deleted]

Also use pluginskinmover on the duo to move some plugins to USB. Been running for a couple of months with no issues. Lets me have IPTV and others running with still 30mb flash free.

So without that plugin you would have been at 0mb or below 0mb?

[sticky7]

That together with a few others left it very low, not 0mb. I have moved any that it allowed me to move to USB. Duo works a lot quicker since.

[Rob van der Does]

Duo works a lot quicker since.
That is unexplainable. USB is slower than flash, and as long as flash isn't full there should be no problem (box needs to be able to (re)write small files to flash).

[bellejt]

my masterbox goes in standby but slaveboxes go in deep sleep with timer settings.

[BRAVEHEART]

Timeshift
Means the box is permanently recording so that you can rewind a program your watching
As far as I know when the program is over it deletes the recording and starts again recording the program that is now showing
so if you try to rewind the program that has only been showing for 2 mins then you can only go back 2 mins but if it was near the end you could go all the way back but when its over the recording will be gone

Obviously you would need a hard drive installed for this to work

Happy Christmas

thanks for explaining that mate as I didn't know ;), and yes the box has a large capacity mechanical hard drive installed, think its 500GB or something like that, think I have recorded about 2 programs in the 6 years I have had the box since new, lol

[BRAVEHEART]

The PSU will be running 24/7, powering all the electronics in the box.
Why overuse the box when you don't need to? It probably won't last as long, especially if you have timeshift switched on.

so could you guide me and tell me where on the menu I turn off timeshift (if its on just now) as I don't see any need for having it on for me personally although
the wife might find it handy if she needs to pause the program and go for a pee during watching corination street or something, lol

[abu baniaz]

You can always press the pause button and activate time shift. This is manual timeshift.

You can also have timeshift start automatically so that it is always running. If you did not enable it, it will be off.

Menu > Setup > System > Timeshift settings > Automatically start timeshift after
default option is disabled

[junglist68]

We always leave my Vu solo 2 in standby when not in use.It still records all our timers and turns right back on at the push of the standby button with no issues.

( Family of 5 here )