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Just upgraded my edision os mini and there seems to be an issue with the mini tv in the epg and other screen's being over sized or zoomed in? It looks this way no matter what skin I use, if I go back to 016 then it's fine again, any one with an edision os mini and running 018 have the same issue?
abu baniaz
25-11-16, 20:26
Did you install any other skins recently? if so, which ones?
abu baniaz
25-11-16, 20:34
There was a driver update three days ago. Maybe that has caused the issue with Picture in Graphics scaling.
Lets wait for what other osmini users say.
Dannyboi2810
25-11-16, 20:45
Mine osmini working well with the update. Have you made a back up?
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If you mean a back up of 016 then yes as I've now gone back to it, out of interest what skin do you use? I've tried 018 on both my edision's and have the issue on both no matter what skin I switch to.
Dannyboi2810
25-11-16, 20:50
I use the YouVIX-Green
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Dannyboi2810
25-11-16, 20:51
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Well I'm not sure what the cause is I've made no changes or installed anything new in a good while, I've only encountered this issue since upgrading to 018.
Dannyboi2810
25-11-16, 20:56
Oh I see want you mean I've just upgraded.
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Dannyboi2810
25-11-16, 20:57
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yes that's exactly what's happening with mine on 018, thanks for posting as I now know it's not an issue with my setup.
Dannyboi2810
25-11-16, 20:58
Yea buddy
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Dannyboi2810
25-11-16, 20:59
Needs reporting to the developers
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I've gone back to 016 for the time being, I'll stay on that until the issue is resolved in a later update.
silverblack
27-11-16, 14:00
Seems to be an intermittent problem mine was zoomed in when i tried it but then tried again and it was ok.
http://i67.tinypic.com/2pq3tkg.png
silverblack
30-11-16, 17:15
Updated to 019 but epg is still stuck in zoomed in mode.
Openwebif shows the full image that's what made me think it was an intermittent fault.
Just updated to 4.2 020 and the fault is still there, anyone from the vix team know when us edision os mini owners can expect a fix for this?
I had the exact same problem with my OS Mini+. What I found was that it was my TV. I turned on the 'just scan' setting in aspect ratio and that solved the problem. My Tv is a LG, it could be could called something else on other TVs.
I had the exact same problem with my OS Mini+. What I found was that it was my TV.That seems unlikely to me.
I'd expect the entire picture frame to be generated on the box, then sent to the TV.
Unlikey - I thought that too, but it worked for me. See post #7 onwards in this thread:
http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?53539-How-to-put-the-preview-channel-in-the-window
The reason why I think it's the TV is because of the statement that 'Openwebif shows the full image'.
It's only a few of button presses on tV remote, so no harm in trying.
The reason why I think it's the TV is because of the statement that 'Openwebif shows the full image
What OpenWebIF & PiG (picture in graphics) show have no relation.
This really does sound like a driver issue.
Let the manufacturer know.
If openwebif displays the PiG correctly, then surely the Edision is scaling it correctly and it's just a setting on the TV?
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silverblack
02-12-16, 13:38
I don't have any settings on my TV to change anything.It works fine in earlier 016 of Openvix so something is broken.
This problem has been reported in another part of the forum.
Click here :-
Mini-TV-preview-window-in-EPG-zoomed-in-not-scaled-down (http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?54409-Mini-TV-preview-window-in-EPG-zoomed-in-not-scaled-down)
Looks like we will have to wait for a driver update!
abu baniaz
08-12-16, 10:52
Could someone flash 020. Do not restore anything. Do not install any skins or plugins. Enable debug logs. Reboot. Check for issue.
If issue is present, please upload the debug log as an attachment.
Thanks.
I've checked a few skins in our feeds, build 4.2.020 and build 4.2.021. Which exact skin are you guys having an issue with?
If its a skin that is not in our feeds its a skin issue and needs to be reported to the skin author.
The issue is present with all skins I've tried from feeds and 3rd party.
Andy_Hazza
08-12-16, 14:42
The issue is present with all skins I've tried from feeds and 3rd party.
Out of interest have you altered the OSD settings and have overscan feature on your tv enabled?
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yes i have noticed this too. I received a replacement Edison OS mini and installed the latest openvix. When i am going through channels, the screen is zoomed in and it is not showing the complete picture. Glad is it not just me. Anyone know what safe image version to go back to solve this problem?
Try restoring the position setup in OSD settings to default.
Also try changing the TV's aspect ratio to 'Just scale' or 'Just Scan', if you have the option.
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Ok i reset the position settings to default and it worked the mini tv in the epg etc was back to normal, so I then put the position settings back to how I have them (to fit the screen of my tv) and the problem returned, mini tv in epg etc zoomed in? As I've already said this isn't a issue in 016 this is only happening Since 018.
I found ages ago that position setup "Move Left/Right" set to 16 caused me problems, but 15 is ok.
Ok i reset the position settings to default and it worked the mini tv in the epg etc was back to normal, so I then put the position settings back to how I have them (to fit the screen of my tv) and the problem returned, mini tv in epg etc zoomed in? As I've already said this isn't a issue in 016 this is only happening Since 018.
So just to repeat several comments have you a setting on your tv to "just scan" or equivalent?
So just to repeat several comments have you a setting on your tv to "just scan" or equivalent?
+1
Sounds identical to the problem I had. What Tv do you have?
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Andy_Hazza
08-12-16, 20:52
Ok i reset the position settings to default and it worked the mini tv in the epg etc was back to normal, so I then put the position settings back to how I have them (to fit the screen of my tv) and the problem returned, mini tv in epg etc zoomed in? As I've already said this isn't a issue in 016 this is only happening Since 018.
You need to forget about messing with your OSD positioner and turn off/disable your overscan feature on your TV, it really is as simple as that.
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I've got a Samsung 50' smart TV I presume the equivalent to 'just scan' would be screen fit on my TV? No I do not have it on screen fit it's set to 16:9 like it always has been and like it always has been using openvix, I can't see how a setting on my tv would cause this, surely it would affect the actual picture when watching something and not just the picture in graphic? again like I said my setup and settings have been fine all this time and I've only had this issue since 018 as have others on this thread so make of this what you will.
Andy_Hazza
08-12-16, 21:16
You need to use the Screen Fit option on your Samsung and forget the OSD positioner, that is a very last resort. The OSD positioner is for TV's that are ancient, so please don't tarnish your setup by having that crap when its not needed.
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I will give this a try Andy and report back I just don't understand how this wasn't an issue before 018?
Andy_Hazza
08-12-16, 21:29
Maybe a driver issue, but the Screen Fit will correct everything for you, just remember to go back to default for the OSD positioner. [emoji4]
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Only problem I have with setting my Samsung to screen fit and my Sony to full pixel is some of the picture on some sd channels gets cut off around the edges, in that I mean I get a black border around the edge of the screen and the picture doesn't fill the whole screen.
Andy_Hazza
08-12-16, 21:51
You must have Automatic Resolution enabled in AV Settings?
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No it's disabled Andy? It's a very slight black border and is more noticeable on some sd channels (particularly bbc1 sd) then others, some sd channels fill the whole screen fine.
Andy_Hazza
08-12-16, 22:08
You definitely reset (defaulted) your OSD Positioner settings? I have a Panny Plasma, Sony LED and LG OLED 4K TV's and all with the Overscan feature turned off and SD & HD picture are as they should be.
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Only problem I have with setting my Samsung to screen fit and my Sony to full pixel is some of the picture on some sd channels gets cut off around the edges, in that I mean I get a black border around the edge of the screen and the picture doesn't fill the whole screen.
Do you mean the black borders on the sides?
Do you mean the black borders on the sides?
If you mean when watching something that was originally broadcast in 4:3 then no, it's a very slight black boarder about 1cm wide at its worst on some broadcasts particularly like I said on bbc1 sd
So after reading into this it seems using just scan or screen fit with a lot of sd content is not recommended as you see the black outline or noise around the edge of the screen which is what I'm experiencing, most sd broadcasts are intended to be used in 16:9 mode, personally I can't deal with that it annoys the hell out of me so using 16:9 is the setting I wish to use and am happy with, unfortunately with the latest versions of vix on the os mini I cant use my setting as the osd position setting when adjusted mess with the picture in graphics, as it works fine on 016 I'm hoping it is a suspected driver issue and will be fixed soon.
Only problem I have with setting my Samsung to screen fit and my Sony to full pixel is some of the picture on some sd channels gets cut off around the edges, in that I mean I get a black border around the edge of the screen and the picture doesn't fill the whole screen.I noticed that too (top and bottom - the sides are OK) when I finally figured out how to fix full-pixel/+1 for inputs.
In my case it's not that much of an issue as I have a black bezel anyway.
Andy_Hazza
08-12-16, 23:33
I have no such issues with borders or noise, must be a specific tv related issue. I would advise you to contact the manufacturer regarding your PIG issue and see what response you get. Hope it gets sorted for you.
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Well just fit has always been fine with my receivers and TV,s ... no black lines/outlines.... but from the forum comments, as usual it seems to be extremely hard to get Samsung tv,s to do anything:)
I guess you will have to wait and see...
Not just my Samsung but my Sony does exactly the same so I must be very unlucky with 2 different tv manufacturers having exactly the same issue at exactly the same time! both displayed everything fine until 018 was released so like I said make of it what you will but my guess is it's not my tv's or settings, as for screen fit and black edges/noise it's always been like that on both tv's with sd content that's why I've always used 16:9 as the picture fits the screen fully.
silverblack
09-12-16, 00:09
It was working fine on my Panasonic TV up till 018 too.Never changed any settings on the TV or OS Mini.
Maybe a driver issue, but the Screen Fit will correct everything for you, just remember to go back to default for the OSD positioner. [emoji4]
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The fact it only happens on some boxes & not on others suggests it's a driver issue. No matter when you have overscan enabled or disabled.
TM had this issue on their early E2 boxes & fixed it with driver updates.
silverblack
22-12-16, 21:50
Anyone tried 023 and has it fixed the problem ?
Andy_Hazza
22-12-16, 22:44
You could try it and let everyone know. [emoji4]
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silverblack
23-12-16, 01:39
You could try it and let everyone know. [emoji4]
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I did but couldn't get 023 to work properly so restored back to 021.
No issues here with fresh flash and setup of 4.2.023.
Rob van der Does
23-12-16, 09:19
No issues here with fresh flash and setup of 4.2.023.
Including the (size of) the video in the PiG-screens of this specific box?
Just updated. PiG issue still not resolved, but everything else working fine.
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No issues here with fresh flash and setup of 4.2.023.
The issue reported in this thread, and by me in what I thought was the right place is certainly not resolved with 4.2.023.
http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?54409-Mini-TV-preview-window-in-EPG-zoomed-in-not-scaled-down
abu baniaz
23-12-16, 20:42
pretty sure someone posted that issue only occurs if you alter the osd position. may explain why the different results.
Just updated. PiG issue still not resolved, but everything else working fine.
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What skin are u using?
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Blue HD, but it doesn't matter which skin I use.
It's not an issue for me as I just use the 'just scan' feature on my TV which solves the problem. But this is just a work around, as if I revert to 16:9 aspect ratio and change the position setup, the issue comes back.
As a few people have mentioned, it probably is a driver issue as there was no problem before 016.
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I don't use 'just scan' as a majority of the content I watch is in sd so 16:9 suits my needs better, using 'just scan' does fix the issue but the point is it never used to be a problem even when the osd position was altered until 018 was released so something is not right.
Just scan will still give you 16:9 with overscan turned off on TV. Just scan will display 16:9 and 4:3 in correct formats, but I'll report it to Edision in the new year, now I've got a clue how to replicate.
pretty sure someone posted that issue only occurs if you alter the osd position. may explain why the different results.
Yes, I can confirm that resetting the OSD position does resolve the problem.
Rob van der Does
23-12-16, 22:41
Maybe
https://github.com/OpenViX/enigma2/commit/4fdcd0efc19e3a9cca41010c045822df7471717f
fixes this?
Maybe
https://github.com/OpenViX/enigma2/commit/4fdcd0efc19e3a9cca41010c045822df7471717f
fixes this?
Thx, will check dev.
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beaudaniels
11-01-17, 09:25
Tried the flash and restore on both my Edision and Xtrend last night.... Lost everything on both.
Back to the drawing board :(
I have the openvix .16 zip for the ET8500, but I think I need the latest one for the Edision - Or can I use this zip folder for the OS Mini too?
beaudaniels
11-01-17, 09:26
It would also appear that most are getting the restores to work.... How come I get an unable to restore each time I try one?
I'm bound to be doing it all wrong? :/
abu baniaz
11-01-17, 09:30
It would also appear that most are getting the restores to work.... How come I get an unable to restore each time I try one?
I'm bound to be doing it all wrong? :/
You are not providing much detail.
At a guess, the plugin server was set to unstable last night. If you tried to restore plugins, that would have failed. Settinsg restore should have been fine.
Is this the case?
beaudaniels
11-01-17, 09:59
I followed the steps in Xtrend to backup first before running the image backup in Vix....
did a Flash and went to the restore on what I had backed up and error... Nothing. Zilch....
Tried .16 and still nothing.... Like I said, I followed the steps on here and now I find myself right back at the start..... :/ A place I really didn't wanna be. Cos I know the ballache it takes to sort! #gutted!
And that's on both boxes!! Aaaaggghhhhhhh :eek:
Maybe a new thread should be started as your issue doesn't seem to relate to the mini tv/PIG issue on the edision os mini, I'm still waiting for a reply as to if this has been fixed in the latest update, I know it was also an issue on ATV and has been confirmed as being fixed on a different forum with updated drivers with the latest ATV nightly's.
Rob van der Does
11-01-17, 11:38
You're right; second issue has hijacked this thread.
I think the LCD-OSD should have been fixed by
https://github.com/OpenViX/enigma2/commit/4fdcd0efc19e3a9cca41010c045822df7471717f
beaudaniels
11-01-17, 11:38
Cheers dude, I'll have a browse.....
there's just SOOOooooo much to go through sometimes before finding the answer you're looking for if you get my meaning....
Sends me in a spin whenever I need to look on here :/ :confused::eek:
You're right; second issue has hijacked this thread.
I think the LCD-OSD should have been fixed by
https://github.com/OpenViX/enigma2/commit/4fdcd0efc19e3a9cca41010c045822df7471717f
Thanks for the info, has this been included in the latest 4.2 026 vix release?
Thanks for the info, has this been included in the latest 4.2 026 vix release?
Yes, it has been included.
I followed the steps in Xtrend to backup first before running the image backup in Vix....
did a Flash and went to the restore on what I had backed up and error... Nothing. Zilch....Check that your backups are going to an external storage device. If they are being written onto the NVRAM device they'll get wiped out by the re-flash.
silverblack
11-01-17, 23:43
Just updated to 4.26 and the EPG PIP is working with the OSD in use.
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