Unicable Quad 40mm LNB 1 Legacy port

[Sid999]

Hi guy's, need a couple of questions answered please. Does the Unicable Quad 40mm LNB 1 Legacy work on the VU+ Solo2 or is it only for the Solo 4K. Can I just fit the Unicable LNB onto my existing sky dish which has 2 cables leading from it and if so, I have noticed the the Unicable LNB has 2 connections, one a gold colour and one a silver. whats the difference? Sorry if there are a few questions there but I am considering buying a Solo2 4K soon.
My system at the moment is a VU+ Solo2 running Vix Build 4.1.016 connected onto a 80cm sky dish with 2 cables.:confused:

[DaMacFunkin]

You would connect the legacy to solo2 and the unicable connection to the solo4k.
That is the most basic way to wire it.

[Andy_Hazza]

Hi guy's, need a couple of questions answered please. Does the Unicable Quad 40mm LNB 1 Legacy work on the VU+ Solo2 or is it only for the Solo 4K. Can I just fit the Unicable LNB onto my existing sky dish which has 2 cables leading from it and if so, I have noticed the the Unicable LNB has 2 connections, one a gold colour and one a silver. whats the difference? Sorry if there are a few questions there but I am considering buying a Solo2 4K soon.
My system at the moment is a VU+ Solo2 running Vix Build 4.1.016 connected onto a 80cm sky dish with 2 cables.:confused:

You can connect both to your receiver, but obviously with the Vu+ Solo2 not having the FBC tuners it will just act as a traditional LNB (I think).


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[Sid999]

Hi Andy, thanks for your quick reply. I have tried removing my original LNB (which was working ok) and replacing with my new Unicable but could not get any signal for some reason, tried with both cables connected and swapped them over and tried each one separately but still no signal :confused:

[Andy_Hazza]

What are your tuner configurations? You would need to select your LNB model from the list.


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[Sid999]

Tuner A BCM7356 DVB-S2 NIM (Internal) (DVB-S2)
Single
Sats 28.2E Astra 2E/2F/2G
And Tuner B:confused: the same.

[abu baniaz]

Tuner A BCM7356 DVB-S2 NIM (Internal) (DVB-S2)
Single
Sats 28.2E Astra 2E/2F/2G
And Tuner B:confused: the same.

You have told it that you are using a normal LNB, this is why it is not working. Hopefully someone will say what the correct settings for unicable are.

They'll probably need to know which unicable LNB you are using before they can advise.

[Andy_Hazza]

What is the make and model of the Unicable LNB you have?


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[Sid999]

Hi Andy, it's an Inverto Unicable Quad 40mm LNB - 1 Legacy Port - For Universal Satellite Dish.

[Andy_Hazza]

Yeah but it should have a model number.


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[Sid999]

This one--------http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Inverto-Unicable-Quad-40mm-LNB-1-Legacy-Port-For-Universal-Satellite-Dish-/262580245717?hash=item3d230094d5:g:IhQAAOSwawpXsvq y

[Andy_Hazza]

This one--------http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Inverto-Unicable-Quad-40mm-LNB-1-Legacy-Port-For-Universal-Satellite-Dish-/262580245717?hash=item3d230094d5:g:IhQAAOSwawpXsvq y

Unfortunately that doesn't tell me anything. Look at the packaging/instructions inside. When you look in the Tuner Configuration, you will select Unicable, then Inverto for Manufacturer then the type is your model number. Scroll through that and see if you can see yours.


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[Sid999]

Hi Andy, unfortunately I don't have the unicable still connected,had to stick my other one back on. Wife needs her tv fix lol. The only thing I can see on the box is IDLB-QUDL41-UNI1L-1PP. and below the full specs.

Low Band Input Frequency Range 10.7 ~ 11.7 GHz
Low Band Output Frequency Range 950 ~ 1950 MHz
Low Band LO Frequency 9.75 GHz
High Band Input Frequency Range 11.7 ~ 12.75 GHz
High Band Output Frequency Range 1100 ~ 2150 MHz
High Band LO Frequency 10.6 GHz
Noise Figure 0.7 dB Max.
LO Initial Accuracy +/- 1.0 MHz Max.
LO Temperature Drift +/- 2.5 MHz Max.
Phase Noise (@ 10 kHz) - 90 dBc / Hz Max.
SCR Conversion Gain 57 dB Min.
Legacy Conversion Gain 55 dB Min.
Gain Ripple (Over 26 MHz Bandwidth) +/- 0.75 dB
Gain Variation (Over Full Band) +/- 4 dB Max.
Image Rejection 40 dB Min.
1 dB Compression Point (@ Output) 0.0 dBm Min.
Cross Polarization Isolation 22 dB Min.
Output VSWR 2.5 : 1
In-Band Spurious - 60 dBm Max.
Output IF Channel 1 (SCR0) 1210 MHz
Output IF Channel 2 (SCR1) 1420 MHz
Output IF Channel 3 (SCR2) 1680 MHz
Output IF Channel 4 (SCR3) 2040 MHz
Channel Isolation 20 dB Min.
Legacy Ports 1
SCR's Control Signals DiSEqC command extension based on EN-50494
Legacy Switch Voltage Control < 14.2 V (Vertical), > 15 V (Horizontal)
Legacy 22 k Sensitivity 220 mV Min.
Current Consumption 250 mA Max. @ 13.5 V
Operating Temperature - 30 °C ~ + 60 °C
Output Impedance 75 Ω
Output Connector F-Type (Female)
Weight 350 g
© All rights reserved to FTA Comunications S.a.r.l Legal

[Andy_Hazza]

IDLB-QUDL41-UNI1L-1PP

That is your model number, so you just scroll through the list where it says Type and find that one.



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[Sid999]

OK Andy thanks for your input. I have been looking around for information about this and found (Make sure you connect the feed to tuner B and set tuner A to loopthrough (not the other way around). can you comment on this please ?:thumbsup:

[Huevos]

There is no point buying a Unicable LNB with only 4 SCRs. Get the Inverto Unicable II model with 32 SCRs.

Solo2. Connect cable to socket B and link internally to tuner A.

Don't think Unicable is just for Solo4K and FBC tuners. That's not true. OpenViX has Unicable support for all receivers.

[Sid999]

Thanks for the info but can you explain "There is no point buying a Unicable LNB with only 4 SCRs" please. :confused:

[Huevos]

Thanks for the info but can you explain "There is no point buying a Unicable LNB with only 4 SCRs" please. :confused:Well can you explain why you would want only 4 SCRs? That is not even enough for a Solo4K without any other boxes being attached.

[Sid999]

Well at the moment I only have one box, a VU+ Solo2 and I will probably buy a solo 4k and this will be my only box. surely being able to record upto 4 channels is enough for anyone? :confused:

[DaMacFunkin]

What he is saying is that with both connections you are only giving yourself 4 feeds for the solo4k and 1 feed for the solo2, when the lnb he mentioned with a splitter would have given you 2 feeds on the solo2 and 7 feeds per input on the solo4k.
Ps the new Sky q can record 4 and watch a fifth at the moment, and the new TiVo will be able to record 5 and watch a 6th so VM and sly obviously don't agree with you.

[Huevos]

If you buy the 32 SCR LNB you will have a plenty of scope for adding other receivers for just a few €uros more. 4 SCRs is not even enough for one Solo4K. If you only want to record a maximum of 4 channels why are you thinking of buying the Solo4K?

For me being able to add as many boxes as I like without adding extra cables to the dish is very handy.

[Andy_Hazza]

OK Andy thanks for your input. I have been looking around for information about this and found (Make sure you connect the feed to tuner B and set tuner A to loopthrough (not the other way around). can you comment on this please ?:thumbsup:

Have you tried your LNB again? [emoji5]


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[twol]

If you buy the 32 SCR LNB you will have a plenty of scope for adding other receivers for just a few €uros more. 4 SCRs is not even enough for one Solo4K. If you only want to record a maximum of 4 channels why are you thinking of buying the Solo4K?

For me being able to add as many boxes as I like without adding extra cables to the dish is very handy.
.... or just add a multiswitch if you don,t wish to go to a fbc Tuner

[Sid999]

Have you tried your LNB again? [emoji5]


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sorry Andy, no I haven't I haven't had time today. I'll let you know when I manage to get it fitted as I'm on nights at the moment.

[Sid999]

If you buy the 32 SCR LNB you will have a plenty of scope for adding other receivers for just a few €uros more. 4 SCRs is not even enough for one Solo4K. If you only want to record a maximum of 4 channels why are you thinking of buying the Solo4K?

For me being able to add as many boxes as I like without adding extra cables to the dish is very handy.

Hi Huevos, thanks for your input. I will only ever be using the 1 box which eventually will be a 4K, so I can watch any forthcoming UHD programs once there out.

[Andy_Hazza]

sorry Andy, no I haven't I haven't had time today. I'll let you know when I manage to get it fitted as I'm on nights at the moment.

Np buddy. When you do we'll try n get you up n running. [emoji4]


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[Sid999]

Hello Andy, well Iv'e got round to fitting my new unicable lnb, I have 2 cables connected can you please advice with the correct setup.

[Huevos]

To which receiver?

[Sid999]

Solo 2, what I'm trying to achieve (if possible) are able to record at least 2 chanels or as many as possible with this setup and watch another.:confused:

[Stanman]

The solo2 or solo4K?

If two then not much cop buying the LNB, could have gone much cheaper but if S4K, Huevos will sort you out.

You need to hook the unicable to the S4K, with a splitter you will be able to use both inputs and quadruple the number of sudo tuners

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[Sid999]

The solo2, I bought this lnb as I'll be able to use it later when I buy a solo2 4k.

[abu baniaz]

Solo 2, what I'm trying to achieve (if possible) are able to record at least 2 chanels or as many as possible with this setup and watch another.:confused:
You will have the same functionality as the previous LNB.

Pretty sure the Solo 2 has internal loop through. If not you will have to have to use a splitter and supply signal to both tuners.

Each tuner must use a separate frequency/channel

[Sid999]

Yes it does and I have 2 cables so which is the best way to set this up? to loop trough or 1 cable to each tuner?

[abu baniaz]

A unicable LNB only has one unicable output. You cannot connect two cables to it, unless you use splitters.

Describe how you have connnected your cables.

[Sid999]

Its this one Inverto Unicable Quad 40mm LNB - 1 Legacy Port it has 2 outputs, 1 gold in colour and 1 silver.

[abu baniaz]

What is the model number of the LNB please?

[Sid999]

Idlb-qudl41-uni1l-1pp

[Sid999]

Thanks Abu, how do I detect which cable is connected to the conventional LNB port, and is there any benefit in just leaving both tuners set up as single& simple or changing it to your suggestion?

[abu baniaz]

Sorry I don't know how to tell which is which. Unicable LNBs do not work like normal LNBs.

Golden rule of tuner configuration: Tuner configuration must match what is connected to it.

[Sid999]

Ok thanks for your advice, I'll have a little play with the settings when I have a bit more time and the wife's not watching :)

[abu baniaz]

I suppose, disable one and configure one only as unicable. If the one you are configuring works fine in unicable mode, it must be the tuner you have connected to the unicable output of LNB. If it fails to tune on some channels, it is the legacy port.

[Huevos]

Solo 2. Connect the unicable to tuner B. Connect nothing to tuner A. Set up like my screen grabs except select your correct device and use SCR1 for one tuner and SCR2 for the other.

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[Sid999]

Thanks Huevos for the above and your time to help, I'll give it a try in the next couple of days on my next day off. :thumbsup:

[Sid999]

Well guy's I've given up on this LNB as I only able to get a signal on one of the connections. Tried swapping them over and choosing different settings regarding LNB makes and can only get one tuner working, so just put my old generic LNB back up. will try again in Ernest when I buy a new 4K box early next year. Thanks for all your suggestions.