Support of single-LNB/satCR/unicable?

[Danielorum]

Hello all.

Does anyone know if my reciever: TM Twin OE, supports this unicable solution?

Thanks for your time.

[TK4|2|1]

Yes it does.

[Stanman]

Are you sure? My understanding was only solo2 4k did

[abu baniaz]

fbc tuners and unicable are two different things.

[TK4|2|1]

Are you sure? My understanding was only solo2 4k did

My technomate is running of a unicable lab.


fbc tuners and unicable are two different things.

Your both confusing me now?
SCR and unicable are the same thing. What is fbc you speak of?


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[abu baniaz]

From what I understand:
An FBC tuner with a unicable LNB, same as having 4 tuners on same sat
An FBC tuner with a standard LNB, same as having 1 tuner with loopouts for that quadrant (high/low/h/v)

[DaMacFunkin]

Are you sure? My understanding was only solo2 4k did

Whaaat a new box, I've only just got my solo 4k, damn technology moves too fast.
Lol.

[2stein]

unicable support is done by firmware.
and vix images support unicable.
i'm using unicable on a duo2 with 4 scrs.

[v8rick]

unicable support is done by firmware.
and vix images support unicable.
i'm using unicable on a duo2 with 4 scrs.

Hi i need a new lnb on one of my dishes which are you using i might have a play. iv'e seen set up in tuner config

[2stein]

Hi i need a new lnb on one of my dishes which are you using i might have a play. iv'e seen set up in tuner config
i'm using this one:
Inverto IDLB-QUDL42-UNI2L-1PP Unicable Quad-LNB, 40mm, 2 Legacy, 1 Splitter
it has 1 unicable feed for 4 scrs (tuners) and 2 universal feeds.

[2stein]

i'm using this one:
Inverto IDLB-QUDL42-UNI2L-1PP Unicable Quad-LNB, 40mm, 2 Legacy, 1 Splitter
it has 1 unicable feed for 4 scrs (tuners) and 2 universal feeds.
by the way... this lnb is not listed in the vix lnb setup list. but this is not a problem... i just used the inverto unicable lnb that's listed and it works as well.

[maxben]

Must admit this issue is confusing me too.

I have a Solo 4K with the the following LNB config which to be honest was just copied from my Mutant.
Tuners I and J is the twin cable tuner which obviously needs no explanation.
This all works fine.

Tuner A
Single universal LNB for 28.2e

Tuner B
4 port DiSEqC switch
All LNBs are quad universals as I have other setup in my office which for the sake of simplicity can be ignored to avoid more confusion.

Port A universal @ 28.2e
Port B universal @ 13e
Port C motorised dish with universal through vbox
Port D universal @ 19.2e

If you look at the screenshots you will see that tuners C to H are not configured which is I believe is correct with the current LNB setup.

Can anyone explain a better setup either with the existing LNBs or different ones ?

I am by no means certain but my understanding so far is that tuner B with the DiSEqC is probably best left as it is ?

Tuner A would be better with a FBC LNB (if there is such a an LNB) or a unicable LNB ? therefore the currently inactive tuners will become active ?

If the unicable LNB is best for tuner A then I have seen that 'GT-SAT Uni-a cable Unicable One LNB, LNC GT-S3SCR4' is available which has I unicable port which I would use for tuner A on the Solo 4K and 3 legacy(universal) ports for my other requirements.

Confused yet ? :)

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[2stein]

afaik, this is the best you can do with the lnbs you got. however, you "waste" 6 internal fbc tuners.
the max you can get with a unicable lnb is 4 scrs (virtual tuners).
so a better solution would be a unicable switch for 8 scrs.
p.s. there are no "fbc lnbs".

[maxben]

afaik, this is the best you can do with the lnbs you got. however, you "waste" 6 internal fbc tuners.
the max you can get with a unicable lnb is 4 scrs (virtual tuners).
so a better solution would be a unicable switch for 8 scrs.
p.s. there are no "fbc lnbs".

Thanks 2stein

So will there never FBC LNBs or just not yet ? I did think that the new Sky UK Q receivers that have FBC tuners would use matching LNB although I could be wrong on this too :)

So are you suggesting a unicable LNB would be better on my 4K port A ? if so how does the unicable switch fit in with this ?

A question I forgot to ask is

Can a unicable LNB be configured to be used as a standard universal LNB ?

Thanks for your time.

[2stein]

So will there never FBC LNBs or just not yet ? I did think that the new Sky UK Q receivers that have FBC tuners would use matching LNB although I could be wrong on this too :)
that i don't know.


So are you suggesting a unicable LNB would be better on my 4K port A ? if so how does the unicable switch fit in with this ?

yes, with a unicable-lnb you could use 4 "internal tuners" instead of just one.
for a switch solution you would connect your quad-lnb (quattro would do as well) to a unicable-switch that would then provide the unicable feed (for 8 virtual tuners) and universal feeds.


A question I forgot to ask is

Can a unicable LNB be configured to be used as a standard universal LNB ?

Thanks for your time.
no... you can just use one (of the 4) scrs.. which gives you similar function as a universal lnb, but you still have to configure it as unicable-lnb.

[Danielorum]

Thank you all for your replies. So now i know that my TM supports this unicable lnb. Right now, i have a quad lnb, with 2 cables, where 1 goes to each tuner. But when i record 2 shows at once, i can only watch recordings. Will the unicable solution resolve this problem, or is this a limitation of my TM stb?

I also also tried with an external tuner, with a cable from the quad. But i can only use this, and and 1 of my internal tuners, at the same time. Or my 2 internal tuners, and not the external... what gives???

Please speak to me, as if im a complete newbie to all of this, satellite lingo :)

Thanks again!!

[2stein]

no, unicable will not make a difference if you have 2 cables connected with the 2 tuners.
it would make a twin receiver with just one cable attached a real twin receiver... but you have 2 cables, so no improvement.

to eliminate your bottleneck you need more tuners... maybe a quad box.
and then unicable comes into play again.

p.s. don't understand why the 3rd external tuner doesn't cooperate with the 2 internal ones.

[Danielorum]

Right, that makes alot of sense.. Thanks for your reply.. perhaps i need to try with a different tuner. The one im using is a: Mystique SaTiX-S2 tuner.

[bentleyboys]

Hi, Sorry to jump in but really struggling to understand this. i have solo 4k Unicable lnb connected via splitter to A and B inputs.Latest Vix loaded I have set scr different on both A and B is this correct or should they be the same scr number?

At the moment I have 4 tuners in total across the 2 inputs

Just for info I also have a spare legacy cable free which i could add to a or b if it would give more tuners available? my wife records a LOT!

I keep reading 8 scrs are possible with uni and solo4K but cannot get this any which way I try

Any help appreciated

Many thanks

[Huevos]

If you have a Unicable LNB you will need to configure all tuners, not just first 2.

[bentleyboys]

Hi Huevos Do i set the channel scr the same on all 8? I have set a different scr on A, B, C, D at present and nothing on EFGH

Thanks for the help in advance

[bentleyboys]

Thanks Huevos I have set ABCD tuners as unicable and set them on separate scr channels 1-4 is this correct or should they be on the same on e.g. scr 1?

On signal finder i get 100% on the 4 tuners set this way and can record 4 channels

Based on this can you then advise what the other 4 should be set to EFGH to give the full 8 available

Really appreciate the help as justified the box to give the wife multi channel recording :-)

[2stein]

each tuner needs to have a different scr. so, how many you can set depends on whether you have an lnb with 4 scrs or a switch with 8.
if you have 8 you can set e-h to scr5 - scr8.
and you only need one cable connected to a.
p.s. just read that you have a unicable lnb, so you can only configure a-d... e-h will remain unusable.

[Huevos]

Some Unicable LNBs have more than 4 scr's. What LNB is it?

[Danielorum]

I Will be moving into my newly purchased home in a couple of months. I will then try to set up the unicable lnb and dish, and report back how it works. Thanks for all your support guys!

[zino]

From what I understand:
An FBC tuner with a unicable LNB, same as having 4 tuners on same sat
An FBC tuner with a standard LNB, same as having 1 tuner with loopouts for that quadrant (high/low/h/v)

Unicable can supply upto 8 tuners
FBC can virtually tune 4

If I had a Unicable LNB, and say Solo 4k with 2 x FBC tuners... Do I need 1 feed (wire) from the dish - split the feed using a splitter,feed into the 2 FBC tuners...
or
2 independant unicable feeds needed frm the dish - no splitting?

To summarise my question:
Solo 4K says the 2 x FBC allows upto 8 channels to be recorded at the same time
Do need a single feed from a Unicable LNB, which is then split inside the house next to the Solo 4K
or
The Unicable LNB needs to have 2 separate Unicable feeds to the Solo 4K?

[bentleyboys]

Hi I have just picked up whilst in Germany and new Unicable 2 32 channel lnb connected it to my solo 4 but am struggling in adding the extra tuners.

lnb is SP-IDLU 32UL40 UNMOO-OPP

on the config I have selected

unicable user defined
SatCR1
Freq 1496 Ch 16 on paperwork with lnb
LOF/L 09750 (was on this not changed by me)
LOF/H 10600 (again unchnged)
Threshold 11700 (unchanged)
connected no
DiSEqC None

Only on 28.2 BTW

When I go to signal finder it shows no signal

If I select old unicable LNB it has signal but only 4 SCRs available need the 8

Very confused

Any help appreciated

[2stein]

there is a file unicable.xml that specifies the scr frequencies for the lnbs.

<manufacturer name="Inverto">
<product name="IDLP-40UNIQD+S" scr1="1680" scr2="1420" scr3="2040" scr4="1210"/>
<product name="IDLB-QUDL-UNI2L-OPP" scr1="1210" scr2="1420" scr3="1680" scr4="2040"/>
+ <product name="IDLB-QUDL42-UNI2L-1PP" scr1="1210" scr2="1420" scr3="1680" scr4="2040"/>
</manufacturer>
i recently added the last one.
so, just copy the line, change the name and add scr5 to scr8 accordingly.
that should be it.


CH1 1210MHz (EN50494+EN50607)
CH2 1420MHz (EN50494+EN50607)
CH3 1680MHz (EN50494+EN50607)
CH4 2040MHz (EN50494+EN50607)
CH5 984MHz (EN50494+EN50607)
CH6 1020MHz (EN50494+EN50607)
CH7 1056MHz (EN50494+EN50607)
CH8 1092MHz (EN50494+EN50607)

[Huevos]

Use channels 1-8.

[2stein]

Unicable can supply upto 8 tuners
FBC can virtually tune 4

If I had a Unicable LNB, and say Solo 4k with 2 x FBC tuners... Do I need 1 feed (wire) from the dish - split the feed using a splitter,feed into the 2 FBC tuners...
or
2 independant unicable feeds needed frm the dish - no splitting?

To summarise my question:
Solo 4K says the 2 x FBC allows upto 8 channels to be recorded at the same time
Do need a single feed from a Unicable LNB, which is then split inside the house next to the Solo 4K
or
The Unicable LNB needs to have 2 separate Unicable feeds to the Solo 4K?
you only need one cable connected to tuner a. all other tuners will be configured to connect internally.

[bentleyboys]

Thanks Guys wheres the file located so i can amend it to suit?

Thanks again

[2stein]

if knew it by heart i would have given it right away... but... it's something like /usr/share/enigma2/... or /etc/enigma2/... or something else :p

[bentleyboys]

Thanks2Stein

I will have a look for it :-)

Thanks again

[bentleyboys]

It was the first option

Copied it off box added extra scrs as directed still only getting 4 tuners available had a thought maybe need to set tuner A = Tuner B or set to loop through could this be the issue?

Can see 8 in list now and can se;ect them but only A to D works

Thanks again

[zino]

you only need one cable connected to tuner a. all other tuners will be configured to connect internally.

So, when using Solo 4K FBC Tuners with Unicable LNB, only Tuner A is plugged into the Unicable LNB, nothing is plugged into Tuner B?
Seems odd.

[bentleyboys]

yes unicable in lnb1 nothing in lnb2
just set each tuner to a sequential scr number and matched frequency

get signal on tuner A, on b get 100% signal for 2 seconds then nothing, same on others too?

If i set one of the other 4 scr unicable lnbs i get 4 tuners ok but obviously not 8