View Full Version : Anything more advanced than RemoteChannelStreamConverter?
realdannys
25-10-15, 11:23
Ive got my VU+ Zero setup with it, the problem is its lacking in any settings. I don't like the way it adds the IP address to the end of the bouquets for example, its messy. I know I can then go in and individually update these, the problem then is what about managing the changing frequencies the way ABM does? Can I use the imported channels with ABM? Im going to assume not - which means Id need to continually run RemoteChannelStreamConverter and delete the IP address at the end everytime it updates the channels...
Rob van der Does
25-10-15, 12:44
You can use any setting-editor to copy the settings of your server box to the client box.
On the client box you can use RCSC (as you do now, doubling the bouquet entries) or the 'fall-back tuner' functionality.
realdannys
25-10-15, 19:25
Ah yes the failback tuner sounds like a good idea. So if I setup ABM on my client box with the same favourites file I use on my server box but setup the fallback server it should seek to that box for each channel? That way I can keep the channels updated with ABM along with the names?
Rob van der Does
25-10-15, 21:23
Not sure if ABM will run on FB-tuner.
realdannys
25-10-15, 21:25
Not sure if ABM will run on FB-tuner.
Damn, so if I want to keep the 2nd box up to date im going to have to manually sync bouquets over? Sounds like a job for a plugin really!
*Edit: Overkill I suppose but I could use my home server to sync the bouquets from the server box to the client box each night and providing fallback mode works reliably the second box would be automatically updated with the ABM
I don't like the way it adds the IP address to the end of the bouquets for example, its messy.It is useful info, and if you don't like the look of it why not use the box name. The reason for displaying the server boxname/IP is because the current version of RCSC can connect to multiple server boxes.
realdannys
26-10-15, 13:27
It is useful info, and if you don't like the look of it why not use the box name. The reason for displaying the server boxname/IP is because the current version of RCSC can connect to multiple server boxes.
There should be at least an option to exclude it. It confuses me why some plugins are customisation options that almost go beyond the scope of the human minds ability to comprehend and others seem like half finished ideas. Its not remotely useful information for me as I only have one server box and I want aesthetically pleasing bouquets on my other box to look identical to the server box. The user does not need to know where those channels are coming from at all.
Any how it seems my option above to sync the boxes via my home server is a better option and use fallback, at least then it'll be syncing the ABM updates too which means the channels will almost be up to date on both boxes and they'll all look like native channels.
There should be at least an option to exclude it. It confuses meSo you are already confused and you want even more options?
realdannys
26-10-15, 14:11
So you are already confused and you want even more options?
Great way to misquote someone :rolleyes:
abu baniaz
26-10-15, 17:26
How would you distinguish between bouquets on the client as well as server receiver if they both have the same name?
realdannys
26-10-15, 17:34
How would you distinguish between bouquets on the client as well as server receiver if they both have the same name?
Its a slave client, it has no channels of its own. If i was using the tuner I wouldn't need to stream. But even if i was using the tuner and i wanted to access extra tuners from the server box i still wouldn't be want them to be split up, as an end user i don't care where the channel comes from as long as it plays, the last thing id want is multiple bouquets with the same channels for different boxes, urgh what an ugly user experience! I want this to be handled invisibly in the background (like it is with the fallback receiver option)
The next thing would be to hide the ugly file path location in the recordings menu, again a messy distraction, i can change font sizes, line heights, images but that unnecessary folder path remains in the header!
abu baniaz
26-10-15, 17:55
With RCSC, it is pot luck if teh stream will play. You won't get any error messages if the server receiver cannot share a service. You don't get any indiciation as to what is/isnt available.
We look forward to your beautiflul implementation.
realdannys
26-10-15, 19:39
With RCSC, it is pot luck if teh stream will play. You won't get any error messages if the server receiver cannot share a service. You don't get any indiciation as to what is/isnt available.
We look forward to your beautiflul implementation.
Did you mean with the fallback its pot luck if the stream will play? Surely if its pot luck with RCSC then thats another flaw of the plugin?
Rob van der Does
27-10-15, 01:47
Its a slave client, it has no channels of its own. If i was using the tuner I wouldn't need to stream. But even if i was using the tuner and i wanted to access extra tuners from the server box i still wouldn't be want them to be split up, as an end user i don't care where the channel comes from as long as it plays, the last thing id want is multiple bouquets with the same channels for different boxes, urgh what an ugly user experience! I want this to be handled invisibly in the background (like it is with the fallback receiver option)
Well there is your answer: use the fall back tuner, not the RCSC plugin.
And when you didn't switch tune messages off, you'll see 'tune failed' if the server can't comply with your request.
Rob van der Does
27-10-15, 01:48
Did you mean with the fallback its pot luck if the stream will play? Surely if its pot luck with RCSC then thats another flaw of the plugin?
How would that be a flaw? There is no way to know if a remote tuner is available, and if it is, if the remote box is able to descramble the service.
Rob van der Does
27-10-15, 01:50
The next thing would be to hide the ugly file path location in the recordings menu, again a messy distraction, i can change font sizes, line heights, images but that unnecessary folder path remains in the header!
What do you mean? I have no such thing.
The next thing would be to hide the ugly file path location in the recordings menu, again a messy distraction, i can change font sizes, line heights, images but that unnecessary folder path remains in the header!If you don't like it don't use it. Simple as that.
And if you think you can do a better job on the plugin please be our guest.
DaMacFunkin
27-10-15, 08:53
Sorry I've asked this before and didn't get an answer, is there a good to setting up fallback tuner, it is something i have never been able to get working, whilst Remote stream channel converter is quite easy to configure.
Rob van der Does
27-10-15, 09:01
It just works out-of-the box. Fill in the details (IP & port) and activate.
The FB-tuner will be used when local tuners aren't available (either because they are busy or absent at all).
Just this morning I set FB on all my boxes (on ViX 3.2-016 as well as PLi and XTA) to use FB and they all work fine.
realdannys
27-10-15, 14:01
What do you mean? I have no such thing.
There seems to be lots lost in translation in this thread, i'm going to assume English isn't everyone's first language. Anyway I was referring to the hard drive path name shown in the recordings menu - sorry I was ranting about something completely unrelated to the thread.
Regardless, you're right - as Id established about 5 posts ago, using the fallback tuner is the way to go for me and so far thats working brilliantly - i'm just going to have a little linux box sync the 2nd box to the server so I can benefit from the auto ABM updates. Cheers!
I have always used RCSC and necer had problems.The channel list is one where I adapt the names of favorites with DBE.Is there somewhere a manual how to setup fallback tuner ? Do you must set it up on slave box or needs something on master box also ?
Rob van der Does
27-10-15, 17:00
Just add the IP-address in 'customise' and activate.
on slavebox then ? Nothing to do on masterbox ? Will the RCSC channellist still work or do we need to upload same list as on masterbox ? :thumbsup:
DaMacFunkin
27-10-15, 17:43
What should the port be?
realdannys
27-10-15, 17:48
No port, just enter the IP - not sure why everyones so confused by the fallback receiver option here, its one of the most straight forward settings in OpenVix! It wins for me as I can just manage my bouquets easily and quickly as has been established in this thread - both method works flawlessly in terms of actually displaying the channel on your box, it just depends, if like me, you'd prefer not to have the bouquet names with the server box name added to them (and not have to edit them each time)
DaMacFunkin
28-10-15, 19:18
I got it to work and I did need to enter the port which was 8001, this was the bit that wasn't getting set correctly, I had tried 80, 8080 but it needs 8001.
Now if only ABM could use remote fallback if all my tuners are occupied....
Satish_Soni
29-10-15, 04:19
I want satellite box
Sent from my SM-G7102 using Tapatalk
When I used RCSC on my 2nd box (client) to watch cable channels from the 1st box (server), it would not allow me to record. It would show as recording but when I would try to play it, it would look like it is recording. but later when i would try to play, it would just show the live feed of that channel rather than what I recorded and then the box would crash. Or it would be completely jiitterly and unwatchable, even standard free-to-air bbc1. Plus AutoTimer refused to add recordings to the Timer if it was set from a Remote Bouquet.
How do i record on RCSC?
also, what is "fall back tuner" and its purpose?
Please, try again with RCSC with build 021.
Fallback tuner allows you to stream a service from another receiver if it ccurrently is not possible on the local box.
Please, try again with RCSC with build 021.
Fallback tuner allows you to stream a service from another receiver if it ccurrently is not possible on the local box.
So the latest Openvix allows you to record the RCSC stream on 2nd box from 1st box's tuner?
I've read through this topic and any others I can find on fallback server, but am still unable to get fallback server working.
I have a Mut@ant 2400 with 2 cable tuners and 2 sat tuners as the primary box. I have a VU+ Solo2 with 2 sat tuners that I'm trying to use as a client.
They both work fine independently and I use ABM to create bouquets on each. To use the fallback server, I modify the VU+ settings to enable fallback server, specify the IP address of the mutant and leave the as the default at 8001. If I unplug the sat feeds on the VU, how do I make it use the Mut@nt tuners as fallbacks? If I choose a channel from the existing VU bouquets, It just says tuner fail and nbothing happens
People say it 'just works', but I must be missing something. Do I just use the existing bouquets on the VU, do I copy something over from the mut@nt? Is there something else I have to do?
Its driving me nuts as I'm sure it must be simple and that I'm missing something obvious, but I just cant figure out what it is.
Any help appreciated!
Just set the tuners as not configured and it will use the fallback tuner ... I always make sure all bouquets are the same on my receivers
realdannys
09-01-16, 19:22
What Twol said - it works for me but I have tuners as not configured, if they're configured it'll be looking for them and then failing to tune in anything.
I have a Mut@ant 2400 with 2 cable tuners and 2 sat tuners as the primary box. I have a VU+ Solo2 with 2 sat tuners that I'm trying to use as a client.Please explain why you want to use fallback.
Disabling the tuners fixed it for me thanks. I knew it must be something simple!
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.5 Copyright © 2024 vBulletin Solutions Inc. All rights reserved.