ABM: How to add new providers: Canal Digital Nordic

[dbgurudk]

Hi Folks,

Want to add nordic providers from 1W and 5E.

Any guides on how to du this?

Thanks in advance.

[dbgurudk]

how do i add support for providers on 1west and 5east?

[Huevos]

First we need details of the provider and what the home transponder they use is. And a channel list.

[dbgurudk]

First we need details of the provider and what the home transponder they use is. And a channel list.

Hi Huevos,

Thanks for you reply.

I'm totally new to this, so plesa help me on my way.

The providers is Canal Digital and Viasat.

How do I find the "home" transponder?

Is it it a complete channel list from the scanning?

Thanks in advance.

[abu baniaz]

Channel lists is as per the list on an official receiver. Not one made up by someone or scanned on a third party receiver.

[dbgurudk]

How du you want the channel list presented? Picture or spreadsheet?

[abu baniaz]

Whatever is easiest for you. Must be legible. Must be from official receiver.

That is only one aspect though.

[dbgurudk]

I wonder if listings from http://www.satellite-calculations.com/Satellite/DVB_frequency_lists.htm is good enough?

Here there are list for both HD boxes and SD boxes and for the different contries Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Finland for Canal Digital and baltic contries in addition for Viasat
Ca**l D**ital HD http://www.satellite-calculations.com/DVB/1west/printlist.php?lcn/1/snr/-99/all/Danish_Nordig_Channel_List.htm?MPEG4
Ca**l D**ital SD http://www.satellite-calculations.com/DVB/1west/printlist.php?lcn/1/snr/-99/all/Danish_Nordig_Channel_List.htm?MPEG2
Via**t HD NOT RELEVANT SINCE CARDS ARE PAIRED TO ORIGINAL RECEIVER http://www.satellite-calculations.com/DVB/4.8E/Viasat_HD_dan.htm
Via**t SD http://www.satellite-calculations.com/DVB/4.8E/Viasat_SD_dan.htm

[abu baniaz]

Best way is to look at the the existing xml files. You can the adapt to provider you are wanting to add.

As mentioned above, the details of the home transponder are required. For some providers, the data is on all transponders so this may not be necessary. If there is an EPG channel on the officail receiver, that may be a possible option.

You then need to check what protocol it uses.

[dbgurudk]

How do I translate these taken from Lyngsat.com

11977 V
tp B14

Nordic BSS
51

DVB-S
SR 27500
FEC 3/4

to the xml-file below

orbital_position="192"
frequency="12515000"
symbol_rate="22000000"
polarization="0"
fec_inner="3"
inversion="2"
system="0"
modulation="1"
roll_off="0"
pilot="2"
nit_pid="0x384"
nit_current_table_id="0xbc"
nit_other_table_id="0x00"
fastscan_pid="0x384"
fastscan_table_id="0xbd"

how do I specify orbital_position for 1 west? -010?

Where do I find the values for
nit_pid="0x384"
nit_current_table_id
nit_other_table_id
fastscan_pid
fastscan_table_id

Thanks in advance.

[abu baniaz]

this is what I tried for 4.8 east.
Don't think it is quite right, but you do get chanenls.



<provider>
<name>nordic</name>
<streamtype>dvbs</streamtype>
<protocol>nolcn</protocol>
<namespace>0x00300000</namespace>
<transponder
orbital_position="48"
frequency="11727000"
symbol_rate="27500000"
polarization="0"
fec_inner="0"
inversion="2"
system="0"
modulation="1"
roll_off="0"
pilot="2"
/>
<sections>
<section number="1">nordic test</section>
</sections>
<servicehacks>
<! [CDATA[
]=]=>
</servicehacks>
</provider>

[dbgurudk]

Hi Abu,

Is there some documentation to what the different tags in the XML is doing?

When I scanned it found al lot of channels. Good :-)

They were groud into ALL, HD, FTA HD and FTA. What about SD? I know they all fell into ALL :-)

In the protocol you write nolcn, what does this mean? in some it says fastscan and other it say sky.

How Do I specify the orbital_position for 0,8 west?

thanks in advance

[Huevos]

They were groud into ALL, HD, FTA HD and FTA. What about SD? I know they all fell into ALL :-)There is no SD only bouquet. Why would anyone want that? Some people just want to watch FTA channels. Some people just want to watch HD channels. Are there people that just want to watch SD channels? As far as I see it SD channels are a fallback for when there is no HD version or the HD version is encrypted.


In the protocol you write nolcn, what does this mean? in some it says fastscan and other it say sky.Channel numbering. Providers list their channels in some sort of logical order. Channel numbers usually correspond to the same channel for years even though new channels come and go. This is called Logical Channel Number or LCN. There is a standard way this is done, written into the DVB standard. If channel numbering is done according to the standard use "lcn" protocol. Other "clever" providers choose not to follow the standard, and make up their own way of transmitting the LCN. Each time a provider makes up a new "clever" way to do this we need to write some new code to read the LCN from the new, user defined descriptor (if we can find it). This is what the various protocols are for. And sometimes the LCN is so obfuscated in the DVB tables the we aren't "clever" enough to find it so then we have to use "nolcn" protocol and come up with a system for sorting the channels of that provider into some sort of logical order.


How Do I specify the orbital_position for 0,8 west?You count round from 0.0E in tenths of a degree, eg.
(360 * 10) - (0.8 * 10) = 3600 - 8 = 3592

[dbgurudk]

First we need details of the provider and what the home transponder they use is. And a channel list.

Hi Huevos,

The following is only true for Denmark. Sweden, Norway, Finland etc. have other listst.

This link is to Viasat with the chennel number for both their SD and HD Channels.
https://www.viasat.dk/kundeservice/parabol-tv/frekvensliste/total
Remember HD Channels can only be viewed with official HD STB

For canal digital om 0,8 west the channel list can be found via this link https://www.canaldigital.dk/Global/pdf/kanalliste_folder.pdf

[dbgurudk]

<provider>
<name>Canal Digital</name>
<streamtype>dvbs</streamtype>
<protocol>nolcn</protocol>
<namespace>0x00300000</namespace>
<transponder
orbital_position="3592"
frequency="10778000"
symbol_rate="24500000"
polarization="0"
fec_inner="5"
system="0"
modulation="1"
inversion="2"
roll_off="0"
pilot="2"
/>
<sections>
<section number="2">Canal Digital</section>
</sections>
<servicehacks>
<![CDATA[
]]>
</servicehacks>
</provider>

I have tried the following for 0,8 west ang gets a AutoBouquetsMaker Cannot read data pop-up during scan. Any ideas?

[Huevos]

I have tried the following for 0,8 west ang gets a AutoBouquetsMaker Cannot read data pop-up during scan. Any ideas?Namespace is for 4.8E, not 0.8W. Try...

<namespace>0x0e080000</namespace>

[dbgurudk]

Namespace is for 4.8E, not 0.8W. Try...

<namespace>0x0e080000</namespace>

That worked.....
my CD xml looks like this

<provider>
<name>Canal Digital</name>
<streamtype>dvbs</streamtype>
<protocol>nolcn</protocol>
<namespace>0x0e080000</namespace>
<transponder
orbital_position="3592"
frequency="12418000"
symbol_rate="28000000"
polarization="1"
fec_inner="5"
system="0"
modulation="1"
inversion="2"
roll_off="0"
pilot="2"
/>
<sections>
<section number="2">Canal Digital</section>
</sections>
<servicehacks>
<![CDATA[
]]>
</servicehacks>
</provider>

Now I just have to get them into different buckets :-)

ANy guidance? :-)

Thanks for all the support by the way :-)

[Huevos]

<provider>
<name>Canal Digital</name>
<streamtype>dvbs</streamtype>
<protocol>nolcn</protocol>
<namespace>0x0e080000</namespace>
<transponder
orbital_position="3592"
frequency="12418000"
symbol_rate="28000000"
polarization="1"
fec_inner="5"
system="0"
modulation="1"
inversion="2"
roll_off="0"
pilot="2"
/>
<sections>
<section number="2">Canal Digital</section>
</sections>
<servicehacks>
<![CDATA[
print "service", service
]]>
</servicehacks>
</provider>Do a scan and post the debug log.

[abu baniaz]

You can also try this for 4.8 e



<provider>
<name>nordic</name>
<streamtype>dvbs</streamtype>
<protocol>nolcn</protocol>
<namespace>0x00300000</namespace>
<transponder
orbital_position="48"
frequency="11727000"
symbol_rate="27500000"
polarization="0"
fec_inner="0"
inversion="2"
system="0"
modulation="1"
roll_off="0"
pilot="2"
/>
<sections>
<section number="1">nordic test</section>
</sections>
<servicehacks>
<![CDATA[
]]>
</servicehacks>
</provider>

[dbgurudk]

Do a scan and post the debug log.

Hi Huevos I will do this tonight. Do I have to do anything special to generate this debug log and where is it located (Directory)?

Have a good day.

[dbgurudk]

Found info here :-)
http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?44783-ABM-support-questions

[dbgurudk]

here is the log
44866

[dbgurudk]

<provider>
<name>Canal Digital</name>
<streamtype>dvbs</streamtype>
<protocol>nolcn</protocol>
<namespace>0x0e080000</namespace>
<transponder
orbital_position="3592"
frequency="12418000"
symbol_rate="28000000"
polarization="1"
fec_inner="5"
system="0"
modulation="1"
inversion="2"
roll_off="0"
pilot="2"
/>
<sections>
<section number="2">Canal Digital</section>
</sections>
<servicehacks>
<![CDATA[
print "service", service
]]>
</servicehacks>
</provider>Do a scan and post the debug log.


Was the uploaded debug log any good?

[Huevos]

Canal Digital Nordic has been added. Will be in next build.

45070

45069

[dbgurudk]

Canal Digital Nordic has been added. Will be in next build.

45070

45069

Hi Huevo,
what about denmark where i'm from? :p

look forward to next build :)

[abu baniaz]

Hi Huevo,
what about denmark where i'm from? :p

look forward to next build :)

These are the locations you will be able to select on that provider file.


Denmark SD
Denmark HD
Finland SD
Finland HD
Norway SD
Norway HD
Sweden SD
Sweden HD

[dbgurudk]

These are the locations you will be able to select on that provider file.


Denmark SD
Denmark HD
Finland SD
Finland HD
Norway SD
Norway HD
Sweden SD
Sweden HD


you guys are the best!!!

thanks in advance......

[dbgurudk]

Hi Huevos,

The following is only true for Denmark. Sweden, Norway, Finland etc. have other lists.

This link is to Viasat with the chennel number for both their SD and HD Channels.
https://www.viasat.dk/kundeservice/parabol-tv/frekvensliste/total
Remember HD Channels can only be viewed with official HD STB


Hi Huevos,

Will you also supply a solution for Viasat?

Thanks in advance.

[dbgurudk]

this is what I tried for 4.8 east.
Don't think it is quite right, but you do get chanenls.



<provider>
<name>nordic</name>
<streamtype>dvbs</streamtype>
<protocol>nolcn</protocol>
<namespace>0x00300000</namespace>
<transponder
orbital_position="48"
frequency="11727000"
symbol_rate="27500000"
polarization="0"
fec_inner="0"
inversion="2"
system="0"
modulation="1"
roll_off="0"
pilot="2"
/>
<sections>
<section number="1">nordic test</section>
</sections>
<servicehacks>
<! [CDATA[
]=]=>
</servicehacks>
</provider>


Hi Abu,
How should the file look like for viasat now the satellites. XML has changed to 5e and not 4.8e?

I tried to change the 48 to 50 but the bouquets generated are for 4.8 and can not be used [emoji20]

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[abu baniaz]

It is being worked on. You will need files that are not yet in the public.

[dbgurudk]

It is being worked on. You will need files that are not yet in the public.

Super Any time frame? :-)

[Peterj]

New code in build 016.
Only provider file need to be tested.

[realdannys]

Any chance of us being able to duplicate this so we can add different channels from Denmark, Sweden, Norway etc? They've all got different sports channels...

[dbgurudk]

Possible that the viasat-xtra channels can be added?
Thanks in advance.

[abu baniaz]

Possible that the viasat-xtra channels can be added?
Thanks in advance.
Can you assist with a link/details to chanenls.

[Huevos]

Right now it is not possible. It would need code changes to the reader in ABM and that is not a priority for us at this time.

To do it yourself add a second xml file for this provider with a different name and title.

[dbgurudk]

Hi gurus,

Canal digital just made changes to their channels today but the do not reflect after a scan. TV2 news FX. Is moved to HD from SD but it is not in the HD bouquet.
Could you please advice what to do?

Thanks in advance.

[Huevos]

Are official receivers seeing this change yet?

[dbgurudk]

Hi Huevos,

I do not know, because i do not have One :-)

However, if I make a channel scan on my Samsung TV it picks up the new channels.

Is there anything I can do to help you?

[Huevos]

We need to work out if the official receivers are seeing this change. No point trying to fix if the plugin is not the cause. Lots of channels appear before they are added to the BAT.

Is the HD channel in the SD bouquet? Is the SD channel in the HD bouquet?

[dbgurudk]

Hi Huevos,

Just got hold of a official receiver and after a channel search all channels are in place .

All the channels on freq. 10934V changed to MPEG4 no HD.

I was wrong about changes to HD, but only changed to broadcast in MPEG4.

[Huevos]

Ok. Switch on extra debug in ABM expett menu. Switch on enigma 2 debug logs. Restart. Do an ABM scan. Post the debug log.

[dbgurudk]

Hi Huevo,

The log becomes almost 8MB and forum limit is 4MB.

How do I upload?

[Huevos]

Zip it......

[dbgurudk]

Good point :-)

Here it is..

48531

[dbgurudk]

you can get the DK freq. here https://www.canaldigital.dk/kundeservice/sporgsmal-og-svar/frekvensliste/

You can get the channel lists from here:
DK https://www.canaldigital.dk/Global/pdf/kanalliste_folder.pdf
SE https://www.canaldigital.se/siteassets/kundservice/kanallista-160524.pdf
NO https://satellitt.canaldigital.no/Produkter/Kanalpakker/Alle-kanaler/

[Huevos]

Not sure what is happening. The info in the tables is wrong so no clue how it can be working on a proprietary receiver. ONID shows as 86 instead of 70, And SID in the SI table does not correspond withe the real service on 10934H.

[dbgurudk]

Is there anything I can do to solve the mystery?

[Huevos]

Is it just this one channel that is faulty?

[dbgurudk]

It is all the channels on this freq.