miraclebox twin hd two dvc tuners can't record one channel and watch another

[Danielaki85]

Hi can someone please help I put BBC on and record and then switch channel to 3itv and get no data on transponder (timeout reading pat) with a black screen I've got my lead coming in from wall and used a splitter and cable to ech tuner if I disable tuner a or b the other works fine so tuner is ok anyone any idea I use vix image also thanks

[Andy_Hazza]

Have you tried with cable straight into box and then a loopthrough cable from tuner A to tuner B?


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[Danielaki85]

Yes mate getting same mate I'm lost lol

[Andy_Hazza]

Have you reconfigured your tuner settings when putting cable straight to receiver? So Tuner B would say Loop through to Tuner A?


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[Danielaki85]

Sorry for being sill but how do I do that

[john doe]

have you setup A & B exactly the same? make sure that you are not recording two channels at once. if you record (one channel), try pressing up arrow and see which channels you can watch and the ones that are not, which will look darker. when you are recording two channels, there is some channels you can watch and most one cant. if you get this, then re=setup your tuners and scan again

[Danielaki85]

Yes set up exactly the Sam shud they be different

[Danielaki85]

When I hit up channel after I start a recording it shows the channels as normal but wen I go into the channel I get through the no data on transponder msg timeout reading pat

[Andy_Hazza]

Setup as quoted in post 4 if cable straight into receiver. Take splitter out for time being.


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[john doe]

Yes set up exactly the Sam shud they be different

no they should be the same.

[Danielaki85]

I have cable straight into box and looped thru still same msg appears

[Blu-ray]

Could this be a Softcam issue i had same problem until i switched to 2.3.0.


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[Danielaki85]

I'm using Mgczmd 1.38

[john doe]

I'm using Mgczmd 1.38

is it setup correctly? sometime the smallest mistake can mess 1.35a or 1.38 p

[Danielaki85]

I think it's fine mate I've got a picture on the TV also tried switching tuners both a and b work on their own but wen I record and change chsnnel is when I get that msg about transponders

[john doe]

I think it's fine mate I've got a picture on the TV also tried switching tuners both a and b work on their own but wen I record and change chsnnel is when I get that msg about transponders

have you checked that the two sat feeds are not loose from box of box?

the only other thing I can suggest is a re-flash. are you using ABM?

[Andy_Hazza]

have you checked that the two sat feeds are not loose from box of box?

the only other thing I can suggest is a re-flash. are you using ABM?

He's using cable John not satellite.


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[john doe]

He's using cable John not satellite.


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Doh, of course he is.

[Danielaki85]

I'm lost no matter wot I try it doesn't wrk

[edwards]

I read a similar thread an another forum and the solution was to update to the latest version of the cam software. Thinking about it that may have been a twin sat tuner. Worth a try anyhoo.

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[abu baniaz]

Can you upload a picture showing connections at rear of receiver?

Also your splitter too.

Post screenshot of tuner config, do both please.

How did you scan channels?

[Danielaki85]

42684 42685

[Danielaki85]

Scanned thru abm

[abu baniaz]

You lose 4.7db/3.6db of signal on each of those outputs. You would be better off not using splitter. Use the loop-out port to connect to second tuner.

Edit: just read again and see you have tried already.

[Danielaki85]

I tried with a cable about a metre long wud this matter

[abu baniaz]

Can I double check that ITV works fine only with one tuner active?

[adm]

I tried with a cable about a metre long wud this matter

No The losses in a good quality cable a metre long are negligible. Short loop cables of a few inches are only used for cosmetic reasons.

[Danielaki85]

Yes it works fine with only one running

[Danielaki85]

42698 this is all I get42698when I record then switch to another channel

[abu baniaz]

How many instances of ITV do you have?

[Danielaki85]

Wot u mean instances sorry if I'm sounding dumb lol

[abu baniaz]

How many copies of ITV do you have?

Also, what bouquet/menu are you selecting it from?

[Danielaki85]

Just one I'm using virgin abm for belfast

[abu baniaz]

Can you do the following?
Press TV, Red (for all), scroll down to ITV. Take a screenshot and upload it. There is a guide on taking a screenshots in my signature.

[Danielaki85]

4270042700

[Danielaki85]

42701 this next page too42701

[abu baniaz]

Please take a look at this guide when you get a chance
http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?44054-How-to-take-screen-shots-How-to-attach-files

As you can see, there is contradiction to what you said earlier. You said that there is only one ITV, but your picture shows lots of them. On cable, the SID not found in PAT normally comes up when you select a channel not intended for your area. This is why I am asking which menu/bouquet you select it from.

If you have enabled not-indexed in ABM menu, please deselect it.

[Danielaki85]

It's set to no under include not indexed channels sorry for that earlier never realised ya can group the channels together like that

[Danielaki85]

Message I get is no data on transponder (timeout reading pat ) is this the same as
Sid not found in pat

[Danielaki85]

42703 that's my setting there

[Danielaki85]

Abu thanks also for the rime and patience you have shown myself appreciate rhe effort

[abu baniaz]

Can you go through those ITV chanenls and delete the ones that do not work please. When chanenl list is open, press Menu, then 8 to remove entry.

Sorry, I dont know answer to your question about no data on transponde.

[Danielaki85]

Just it not the plus ones etc

[Danielaki85]

It all removed what's next lol☺

[Danielaki85]

I give up on this issue thanks guys for the replies

[nsw9154]

That picture that you posted in post#22 - the splitter looks very similar to a standard Virgin splitter one output is for a Cable Modem and the other is for your set top Box, i tried one ages ago and i could not get a picture using the Cable Modem outlet

[Danielaki85]

Hi mate think it is a virgin one f's hope that's the issue lol thanks for the reply cud you recommend a good splitter as I haven't a clue which to by just a 2 way wud do nicely

[Danielaki85]

Hi mate think it is a virgin one f's hope that's the issue lol thanks for the reply cud you recommend a good splitter as I haven't a clue which to by just a 2 way wud do nicely

[Danielaki85]

Hi mate think it is a virgin one f's hope that's the issue lol thanks for the reply cud you recommend a good splitter as I haven't a clue which to by just a 2 way wud do nicely

[Danielaki85]

Hi mate think it is a virgin one f's hope that's the issue lol thanks for the reply cud you recommend a good splitter as I haven't a clue which to by just a 2 way wud do nicely

[Danielaki85]

Just seen this threat I started ages ago splitter isn't the problem I tried a different box and it all works great csn watch 1 channel record another also forgot to mention my miraclebox was originally bought as one sat tuner 1 cable tuner I then changed sat to 2nd cable tuner but was never able to record watch another don't no if that wud make a difference or not