ABM-Türksat Slowing Box

[girginoz]

i tried abm-turksat but had to deselect and delete lists for every action by remote took about 15 seconds before the box responded.
After all these deselection and deleting that took about 5 mins i had to reload my settings backup because service numbering of my original bouquets changed
leaving a gap of about 900 nonexisting services. i also tried other abm providers without any issue.
(Apollo 100)

[Rob van der Does]

You need to give us more info. I run ABM for ALL available providers, on top of my own settings, and I have no issues at all.

[girginoz]

You need to give us more info. I run ABM for ALL available providers, on top of my own settings, and I have no issues at all.

Could you please be more spesific?
when i pressed any button spinning vix appeared and spinned about 15 seconds before the box responded. (channel change or any menu action)

[girginoz]

I reflashed apollo 100 without backup.
Configured Türksat only and used ABM-Türksat.
This time same issue only with All channels list:
List selecting: 17 seconds
channel selecting: 17 seconds
channel changing: 17 seconds
moving 1 channel down or up on channel list: 17 seconds
exiting list without selection: 17 seconds
menu button: 17 seconds
moving 1 step down or up : 17 seconds, and so on.
other lists have no problem.
(enough details ?:D)

[Rob van der Does]

Can you provide a debug log please?
Activate it in the log manager, reboot the box, do some of the 'slow stuff' and attach the log to a post please.

I take it you can actually receive the Türksat services?

[girginoz]

Can you provide a debug log please?
Activate it in the log manager, reboot the box, do some of the 'slow stuff' and attach the log to a post please.

I take it you can actually receive the Türksat services?

i'll do it again for you. ofcourse i receive türksat services among 10500 odd channels

[girginoz]

Here you are: including a crash after ABM

[Rob van der Does]

Can you please give the output of the telnet command

df -h

[girginoz]

like this?

[Joe_90]

Just an observation from looking at the logs. I see that you have over 52,000 entries in the Turksat autobouquet. You also have your EPG stored in the flash (instead of the HDD). Maybe your flash is too full? If you go into the Information menu and select the memory section how much RAM and flash is free?

[girginoz]

thanks, tony, but few türksat channels have epg.
yet, i changed epg store to media-hdd, you can compare results.
(Türksat actually has 600 odd channels)
ah, but i got these pictures after i erased ABM files. nobody can tell me do it again:D

[girginoz]

well, Nobody heard me:D
with epg store directed to media hdd, nothing changed, still slowing.
but its strange türksat seems to have 52800 channels, though ABM found only 306 (list has gaps)

[Joe_90]

To me it still looks like there is some corruption or issue with your flash. As well as that there seems to be issues when you are scanning Turksat with ABM. Maybe Huevos or Peterj can look?

Attached is the screen capture of my Information/Memory page on my Quad Plus. Can you do a similar screen shot on your box?

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[girginoz]

To me it still looks like there is some corruption or issue with your flash. As well as that there seems to be issues when you are scanning Turksat with ABM. Maybe Huevos or Peterj can look?

Attached is the screen capture of my Information/Memory page on my Quad Plus. Can you do a similar screen shot on your box?

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Here it is: but yours is a quad plus :)

[abu baniaz]

What are all these lines?


TuxTxt <Biterror in Packet>

[girginoz]

What are all these lines?


TuxTxt <Biterror in Packet>

i am a layman. if anybody has no better idea ill have to delete lists and create another file eraser log but have seen many with similar lines:)

[Joe_90]

What are all these lines?


TuxTxt <Biterror in Packet>

I noticed those and other errors in the log from the scan, which is why I thought maybe Huevos or Peterj might be appropriate to help. Nothing like that in any of my logs.

[abu baniaz]

I'm guessing teletext is being accessed and this is the issue.

[girginoz]

i deleted all lists and files related to ABM; still there are lots of those lines increasing constantly.
thats why i disable logging though they continue in the background.

[girginoz]

I'm guessing teletext is being accessed and this is the issue.

you are right, my friend. selected a channel without ttx and restarted. no such lines in log:)

[Joe_90]

I did a comparison (by eye) of your log and mine. Apart from all the tuxtext errors, the following two lines look like an error or problem. I don't know what the significance is, though!


couldn't open LCD - load lcd.ko!


couldn't read model: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/sys/block/zram0/device/model'

[girginoz]

I did a comparison (by eye) of your log and mine. Apart from all the tuxtext errors, the following two lines look like an error or problem. I don't know what the significance is, though!


couldn't open LCD - load lcd.ko!


couldn't read model: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/sys/block/zram0/device/model'

[Errno 2] related to harddisk. they may be significant or routine.
Turning in, worked hard:)

[Rob van der Does]

You also have your EPG stored in the flash (instead of the HDD). Maybe your flash is too full?
As also the crashlog mentioned the flash to be full, that was my reason to ask for "df -h";
But the result was fine.

Anyway: I can't think of any reason ABM to be the culprit. I quite regular scan all satellites (from 50E to 35W) and on top of that I can run ABM for all available providers (so including Türksat) and I have no issues at all.

So the only thing I now can advise is to flash the box, set up from scratch, make sure EPG is set to USB or HDD, activate debuglogs (they don't cost any sources, make sure they don't go to HDD as it will prevent the disk from falling asleep).

Sorry......

[girginoz]

sorry, rob, i know you havent missed http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?42751-ABM-T%FCrksat-Slowing-Box&p=331903&viewfull=1#post331903
there is no issue till entering All channels list and after going to another list. no issue either at all if All channels list deleted.
(One thing: box has single tuner. )

[girginoz]

i flashed apollo 106 and took opportunity to retry ABM-Türksat.
Only türksat configured, no additional plugins, EPG to USB.
Nothing changed.:confused:
(i cant add "EXAMPLE...LCN" file so converted to text))

[Peterj]

Are you using a custom LCN file like the CustomLCN.txt you attached?
If so, that one is completely wrong.
There are LCN numbers like 51000. This will create a bouquet file with at least 51000 dummy lines.
That will explain your slow system.
Also LCN numbers should be in order. 1 2 3 4 ......, not 51000 1 2 3 ......
Don't use LCN numbers > 1000.

[girginoz]

Thanks, Peterj.
i dont use ABM but just tried to see difference. When it slowed box i wanted to feed back.
as for the Custom LCN, i saw it yesterday in ABM, original name "EXAMPLE_hd_sat_420_turksat_CustomLCN".
Should i delete or edit it?

[Peterj]

For a start only leave the EXAMPLE and delete the other.
You now have a bouquet with bouquet with 52806 entries.

loading bouquet... /etc/enigma2//bouquets.tv
loading bouquet... /etc/enigma2//autobouquet.sat_420_turksat.main.tv
52806 entries in Bouquet autobouquet.sat_420_turksat.main.tv
When you have deleted the LCN file, run ABM again.
It should produce a main bouquet with less than 1000 entries.

After that you can swap channels and give your own channels numbers using LCN file, if you want. read instructions.

[girginoz]

Well, it still has more than 2800 channels.
Now its easier to delete
"#SERVICE 1:832:d:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:
#DESCRIPTION" lines from main bouquet

[Joe_90]

Are you using a custom LCN file like the CustomLCN.txt you attached?
If so, that one is completely wrong.
There are LCN numbers like 51000. This will create a bouquet file with at least 51000 dummy lines.
That will explain your slow system.
Also LCN numbers should be in order. 1 2 3 4 ......, not 51000 1 2 3 ......
Don't use LCN numbers > 1000.
@girginoz - I did point out in post #10 that you had over 52000 entries in the Turksat bouquet, according to the log. Trying to manage so many entries must be impacting on your system.

[girginoz]

@girginoz - I did point out in post #10 that you had over 52000 entries in the Turksat bouquet, according to the log. Trying to manage so many entries must be impacting on your system.

:thumbsup: thats the point but its all generated automaticly.
no such problem with other providers.

[Peterj]

Well, it still has more than 2800 channels.
Now its easier to delete
"#SERVICE 1:832:d:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:
#DESCRIPTION" lines from main bouquet

You shouldn't have that type of lines. Still something wrong.
Deselect turksat in ABM and scan again. Delete the autobouquets of turksat by hand.
Select turksat again in ABM en scan again.
Without of custom LCN file you should get a main bouquet with only channel line in it.

[Joe_90]

I give up. :(
It's the fact that you had dummy LCN entries that caused it - not ABM. Rob had pointed out that there was no similar issue with ABM on his collection of satellites, including Turksat. I use ABM on 28.2 only - for others I create my own bouquets.

[girginoz]

I give up. :(
It's the fact that you had dummy LCN entries that caused it - not ABM. Rob had pointed out that there was no similar issue with ABM on his collection of satellites, including Turksat. I use ABM on 28.2 only - for others I create my own bouquets.

since i dont use ABM ill delete the plugin. i just wanted to point out the issue. Thanks everyone.
As for @Rob's collection he hasnt mentioned that he actually receives Türksat channels.

[abu baniaz]

But your report did not mention:

I manually created an LCN file to force ABM to create a bouquet with more than 5000 channels.

I'll test later with default settings, but can only get the Western beam.

[girginoz]

But your report did not mention:

I'll test later with default settings, but can only get the Western beam.

But i mentioned
thats the point but its all generated automaticly.
How could i create one without knowing the existance of such a file?

[abu baniaz]

Examples are created for all the providers when run. If you are saying you you did not alter anything, then there is an issue to be looked at. Still got to finish getting logs off 5W but will test 42e later.

[girginoz]

The first time i mentioned LCN is: (i cant add "EXAMPLE...LCN" file so converted to text))
There has never been any LCN file for Türksat except the EXAMPLE.
Everybody jumps at the last word.
But i felt the distrust from the first page which leads me to reconsider my trust.

[Rob van der Does]

38 posts and I still have no clue of what caused the actual issue. I use ABM-Türksat (along with others) without any problem.

But I'm sure the issue is not 'mistrust', more like clear and exact wording.

[abu baniaz]

It will be looked at.

[girginoz]

Reloaded ABM, cleared custom file leaving 'readme' only and rescanned Türksat.

[abu baniaz]

That file is created but not used. It only affects ABM when the EXAMPLE_ at beginning is removed.

[girginoz]

But the "All channels" list still has 2805 services. Cannot upload "autobouquet.sat_420_turksat.main.tv" here.(/etc/enigma2)
it has "Search "#SERVICE 1:832:d:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:" (50467 hits in 1 file)"

[Peterj]

mmm, very strange.
Can you activate log, restart E2 and run ABM again?
Pls post log file.

When you zip a bouquet file, you can post it here.

[girginoz]

i dont know much so i need a good guidance. Right questions, right answers:)

loading bouquet... /etc/enigma2//autobouquet.sat_420_turksat.main.tv
52806 entries in Bouquet autobouquet.sat_420_turksat.main.tv
loading bouquet... /etc/enigma2//autobouquet.sat_420_turksat.hd.tv
196 entries in Bouquet autobouquet.sat_420_turksat.hd.tv
loading bouquet... /etc/enigma2//autobouquet.sat_420_turksat.ftahd.tv
894 entries in Bouquet autobouquet.sat_420_turksat.ftahd.tv
loading bouquet... /etc/enigma2//autobouquet.sat_420_turksat.fta.tv
269 entries in Bouquet autobouquet.sat_420_turksat.fta.tv
loading bouquet... /etc/enigma2//autobouquet.sat_420_turksat.separator.tv
894 entries in Bouquet autobouquet.sat_420_turksat.separator.tv
very strange indeed, 21 fta hd channels listed but here we have 894

[Peterj]

sorry, don't see any ABM scan data in log file.
Did you run ABM after restart E2?

[girginoz]

sorry, don't see any ABM scan data in log file.
Did you run ABM after restart E2?

still looking for the right file. this one is the last chanse before retrying.

[Peterj]

nope.
delete all log files, restart E2, scan ABM.
After that you have just 1 logfile.

[Peterj]

@Rob,
Can you send me your EXAMPLE_hd_sat_420_turksat_CustomLCN.txt file?

[girginoz]

nope.
delete all log files, restart E2, scan ABM.
After that you have just 1 logfile.

Hope this is the one:)

[Peterj]

ok, I see the problem.
Can you add this file into custom folder and run ABM again?
Channel order is random.

When this is ok, I appreciate when you make channel order more sense.
Just move lines in custom LCN file into the correct order and post it back. I will correct LCN numbers.
We also can make sections, like:

<section number="100">Entertainment</section>
<section number="200">News and Sport</section>
<section number="300">Movies</section>
<section number="400">Lifestyle</section>
<section number="500">Music</section>
<section number="600">Children</section>
<section number="650">Special Interest</section>
<section number="800">Shopping</section>
<section number="870">Adult</section>
<section number="950">Regional</section>

[girginoz]

When i ran ABM, All channels list became a copy of your LCN with a few exceptions.
No slowing issue but my sat range 100.5E-45W narrowed to 68.5E-15W.
Furthermore when i did a manual Türksat scan almost all ABM channels became <n/a>
My manual Türksat scan produces about 600 TV channels but i do not watch more than 25.
My personal favorites list has 23 channels.
i do not use ABM and as the issue is acknowledged my interest on the subject ended.
Thanks.

[Peterj]

Thanks for reporting.
Just to let you know:
When you only want to see only a few channels from the custom LCN list, just delete the rest and change <include>yes</include> into <include>no</include>

[girginoz]

not happy with myself, i tried several transponders in sat_420_turksat provider xml with same result.
i think the problem is here:

[DvbScanner] Added/Updated 131 transponders with network_id = 0x42 and network_id = 0x-1
Türksat has only 78 transponders.
is there a way to create a custom transponder file? i just need a sample.
(The transponder in provider.xml is D.smart updater)

[Peterj]

You can use the custom LCN file as posted in #51 and edit it as described in #53

[girginoz]

not for myself.