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I'm sure that a few days ago when I went to Menu -> Plugins -> Download Plugins I was presented with a (hierarchical) list of available plugins to install.
If I do this now the list is empty.
Also, if I try Main menu -> Setup -> Software update I get:
Sorry feeds are down for maintenance, try again later.
I get the same message for things like Main menu -> Setup -> System -> Network -> MiniDLNA setup (and others on that list).
My network is working fine (e.g. imdb queries work OK).
So have the feeds really been down for maintenance for the last few days?
If not, any idea what the problem might be?
I have the same problem too this feeds are down for maintenance is strat to take a pissed why is only Apollo that get all this software updat all the time:mad:
Hello I have a vu+dou2 the software on it is Apollo 24 for those who don't know what is picture in picture is you are watching a channel like sky1 but at the same time you can watching bbc news on the top of the TV here is my problem sens I update Apollo 29. 30 . 32. 33. Picture in picture is not working any more . Can any one tell me what I am doing wrong !
I'm sure that a few days ago when I went to Menu -> Plugins -> Download Plugins I was presented with a (hierarchical) list of available plugins to install.
If I do this now the list is empty.
Also, if I try Main menu -> Setup -> Software update I get:
I get the same message for things like Main menu -> Setup -> System -> Network -> MiniDLNA setup (and others on that list).
My network is working fine (e.g. imdb queries work OK).
So have the feeds really been down for maintenance for the last few days?
If not, any idea what the problem might be?
Which exact image build are you using ?, because due to changes to the way the feeds work they are now only available for the Apollo image build 032 onwards.
I have the same problem too this feeds are down for maintenance is strat to take a pissed why is only Apollo that get all this software updat all the time:mad:
Every ViX image since day one has undergone constant development, the 808 part in ViX 3.0.808 was not there for show, it was there to denote that it was the 808th build of that image series. If you dont like the ViX image try another and see if that works better to your needs.
Are the feeds actually down at the moment because I'm on 032 and still can't access them?
Yes, they do seem to be down at the moment. I'm sure they will be up again before long.
There set as updating rite now while the next build is being built / uploaded. (build 035 or 036)
Rob van der Does
15-09-14, 12:36
Feeds are up: build 35 is online.
When you released 032 you said it needed a full reflash via USB. Are subsequent builds i.e. 035 now ok to upgrade through the normal route i.e. Openvix menu?
Which exact image build are you using ?, because due to changes to the way the feeds work they are now only available for the Apollo image build 032 onwards.I'm using 030, which was what the box was delivered with, new, a week ago.
Are you saying that I now need to flash an update to make things work again?
If so
will a backup/restore of the config around the flash keep my current settings?
how is anyone supposed to know that their 3-day old box is alreayd out of date?
And the thread on OpenVIX releases (http://www.world-of-satellite.com/forumdisplay.php?358-OpenViX-image-updates-and-changelogs) still has 030 as the latest entry (although I can see that 032 is available at the download site).
When you released 032 you said it needed a full reflash via USB. Are subsequent builds i.e. 035 now ok to upgrade through the normal route i.e. Openvix menu?
yes build 032 required a USB or "couch" reflash, but we did allow for the use of settings backups from any image after build 025. and yes you can perform a online update from any build after 032 until we advise otherwise.
I'm using 030, which was what the box was delivered with, new, a week ago.
Are you saying that I now need to flash an update to make things work again?
If so
will a backup/restore of the config around the flash keep my current settings?
how is anyone supposed to know that their 3-day old box is alreayd out of date?
And the thread on OpenVIX releases (http://www.world-of-satellite.com/forumdisplay.php?358-OpenViX-image-updates-and-changelogs) still has 030 as the latest entry (although I can see that 032 is available at the download site).
yes if you are using build 030 you will have to reflash if you want to use the plugin feeds as that build no longer has access.
yes a settings backup from build 030 will work on 032 onwards.
your receiver is not out of date, we simply updated the image, which we do very frequently and always have, plus there are multiple notices on this forum and our social media feeds advising users when important changes take place for our image.
OK. I've flashed to 032 (which asked me about restoring backups - and I'd just taken one) and then updated to 035 (which took and restored its own backup).
The list of plugins (etc.) is now working again.
It would be nice if the box could display a message saying that a reflash was needed, rather than just saying the feeds are down·
It would be nice if the box could display a message saying that a reflash was needed, rather than just saying the feeds are down·
Thats what the forum is for.
your receiver is not out of date, we simply updated the image, which we do very frequently and always have, plus there are multiple notices on this forum and our social media feeds advising users when important changes take place for our image.But, as I noted, the the thread on OpenVIX releases still has 030 as the latest entry - or it did until 2 days ago, at which point it announced 035. So that thread didn't announce 032 (which is the one requiring a re-flash) at all.
If re-flash releases are not reported by the box itslelf, and the "OpenViX image updates and changelogs" thread doesn't mention them, which thread should I subscribe to so that I may find out about required re-flashes?
There was a force read thread on this very forum announcing that build 032 required a re flash due to changes in the image feeds. Plus at least half a dozen other threads on the forum, so even if the thread with the change logs was not updated there was still more than enough notification for users to be aware of the need to re flash.
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abu baniaz
17-09-14, 01:25
Generally speaking, when a reflash is required, a manadtaory read thread is created and everybpdy logging on to forum is required to read it. Including moderators and beta testers. You wouldn't know who read taht a refalsh of 32 was required at 01:44 on 12/09/2014?
The changelogs is copied and pasted from changes on the GIT (where code is stored). I see your point about stating that reflash is required on changelogs. But someone has to log on, raed a mandatory read thread to be able to access it. There is a twitter feed too.
We don't post messages on people's receivers. What would you suggest as an improvement?
We don't post messages on people's receivers. What would you suggest as an improvement?It would have helped me a lot (and I am subscribed to the forum - others may not be) to get a message saying that a re-flash to a later version was needed rather than the message saying that feeds were down (which sounds like a temporary event, when in fact it is permanent).
And and unrelated query on re-flashing. When I did it the box rebooted after re-flashing, at which point (presumably as the USB stick with the miraclebox/ directory was still there) the query was displayed on the front-panel again.
Whilst I was thinking, "this isn't mentioned in the documentation - should I just ignore it" (and checking the documentation to confirm that fact) the box just continued to reboot anyway, and all was well.
BUT, I also noticed that there is a noforce file in the firmware directory and if that is renamed to force then the query is not presented, the firmware update is done anyway. So I'm wondering whether that just leaves you in a loop, with it continually upgrading to what it has already just upgraded to.
Just wondering....
abu baniaz
17-09-14, 02:07
Yes you are correct. If file is named force, a flash takes place without a prompt, you are in effect forced to do it. when named noforce, you get teh prompt.
I don't know what literature you are refrring to, but the flashing guide says the following.
Flashing the Receiver.
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Fully power the receiver down via the rear rocker switch.
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Make sure no USB devices are plugged into the receiver at this point.
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Insert the USB stick containing the image files into one of the USB ports on the receiver.
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Power the receiver on.
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When the receiver powers up you will see the message “press ok to upgrade” on the
receivers display. Press the OK button now, This is a touch sensitive button.
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During the flashing process you should see the message “upgrading” on the receivers
display, DO NOT power the receiver down during this process.
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If successful the receiver will reboot it self after the flashing process has completed.
Most receivers give you this prompt. For the receivers that don't prompt, people have been known to setup their image, reboot forgetting to take out the USB stick.
If you can think of an improvement, please feel free to share it.
I don't know what literature you are refrring to, but the flashing guide says the following.
If successful the receiver will reboot it self after the flashing process has completed.
Most receivers give you this prompt.I was referring to the (printed!) manual which arrived with the Miraclebox, and it says what you quoted. The issue is that when the reboot happens after the firmware upgrade the prompt for "Press OK to upgrade" appears on the front panel again and I (at least for a moment) wondered whether it had failed and was asking me to retry.
If you can think of an improvement, please feel free to share it.All I could suggest would be a prompt to remove the USB stick and get the user to press OK on the front-panel again before the reboot takes place, but I have no idea whether this is possible.
It's a minor point. Documenting that the prompt will occur again if the USB stick is still in pace and that it should be ignored would also do.
abu baniaz
17-09-14, 02:34
The Technomates have this prompt after completion. So should be possible. This is for the manufacturer, not image teams though.
Would changing this
Please note.
It is perfectly safe and advisable to keep a image on your USB stick for backup reasons. The image [/FONT]
will only be flashed to the receiver if you press the OK button when instructed to, if you dont press [/FONT]
OK button the receiver will bypass the files on the USB stick boot as normal.
to
Please note.
It is perfectly safe and advisable to keep an image on your USB stick for backup reasons. The image
will only be flashed to the receiver if you press the OK button when instructed to. If you don't press the
OK button, the receiver will bypass the files on the USB stick boot the newly flashed image.
be fine
Well, I don't keep a USB stick in the front of my box and since I can download the image from a web-site I don't keep on any USB stick I have anyway.
The"oddity" here is that when you do re-flash and the system reboots, you immediately get asked if you want to flash (upgrade) again.
So all that is needed is a note that during re-flashing the reboot will occur, and that the prompt can be ignored to let the normal reboot (to the now new firmware) proceed.
So just add this to the original:
NOTE: that when you do re-flash the system will reboot and the "Press OK to upgrade" may be shown again. Ignore this second prompt and the system will re-boot to the new firmware".
Feeds are up: build 036 is online
Cheers
I just flashed my Vu+ with build 036, and chose the settings backup stored on the HDD, from build 025, but even so it failed to download the plugins. Now I get the "ordinary" Feeds are down-message when I try to download the plugins.
Did I do something wrong when I used the backup from build 025, or are the feeds simply down..?
im not getting the upgrade prompt when i reboot the box.
i have done everything as advised.
usb stick is formatted to fat32.
copied the folder with the image files onto it but still nothing it just loads as normal.
build im downloading is the latest 36
am i doing anything wrong?
I also have just done an update and am getting the Feeds are Down message when trying to restore the plugins.
I just flashed my Vu+ with build 036, and chose the settings backup stored on the HDD, from build 025, but even so it failed to download the plugins. Now I get the "ordinary" Feeds are down-message when I try to download the plugins.
Did I do something wrong when I used the backup from build 025, or are the feeds simply down..?
Rob van der Does
17-09-14, 17:33
That is correct: at this moment build 37 and the feeds are being uploaded, so the feeds are indeed not available.
So try again later.
I just flashed my Vu+ with build 036, and chose the settings backup stored on the HDD, from build 025, but even so it failed to download the plugins. Now I get the "ordinary" Feeds are down-message when I try to download the plugins.
Did I do something wrong when I used the backup from build 025, or are the feeds simply down..?
As far as I am aware the feeds are currently down or technically set to "updating" status while the next build version is being built and uploaded to the servers, this should not take too long, so try again in a hour or so and see.
If you are rebooting the box (not only GUI), and this occurs, I would try another USB stick. I had a stick that suddenly didn't play this game anymore...
im not getting the upgrade prompt when i reboot the box.
i have done everything as advised.
usb stick is formatted to fat32.
copied the folder with the image files onto it but still nothing it just loads as normal.
build im downloading is the latest 36
am i doing anything wrong?
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