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steveharman
15-06-14, 14:34
Following on from the discussion on $ky killing off many HD channels, what do people suggest is the best (see also; easiest) way for me to replace the non functioning HD channel numbers with their SD alternatives?

For example I keep calling up $ky Sports News on 405 which now no longer clears in HD, and the SD version is on Ch.1285. I'd love to "renumber" 1285 so pressing 405 took me there instead. Kind of like a sym-link (Mac "alias", Windows "shortcut"). Same goes for all the other HD channels $ky have recently killed.

Does DreamBoxEdit provide this functionality (if so...how...) and, despite the name, is it likely to work OK with our GigaBlue Quad?

Thanks,

Steve

Andy_Hazza
15-06-14, 15:32
Do you use the inbuilt ABM? If so just change your region in providers to SD instead of HD, so in my case Sheffield SD and Sky Sports News SD becomes 405. Just remember when you have changed to 'Region' SD, green button to save then start scan and will take effect. :D

duoduo
15-06-14, 17:28
Perhaps he meant a solution to mix and match with the hd that is currently available. I would really appreciate some input on if this an option and how to do it.

steveharman
15-06-14, 17:54
Perhaps he meant a solution to mix and match with the hd that is currently available. I would really appreciate some input on if this an option and how to do it.

Thanks for the suggestion Andy, but yes it's a mix-and-match solution I'm after. Presumably setting ABM to SD would them "reorganize" the likes of Davd HD, BBC News HD, BBC2 HD off to other channel numbers, so no more 102 for BBC2 HD etc.

Thanks again though.

Steve

judge
15-06-14, 18:28
I've attached a custom ABM xml file to the end of this post (http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?37698-Channels-not-currently-available-on-28-2E-using-E2-with-a-cam&p=287046&viewfull=1#post287046).
It should do what you want.

carlowen
15-06-14, 18:30
I've added the changed channel numbers in the swap hd section of the ABM providers file. When another goes just add the new numbers

carlowen
15-06-14, 18:39
What in your ABM is s×y black and why does it not show on mine running last version

steveharman
15-06-14, 18:53
I've attached a custom ABM xml file to the end of this post (http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?37698-Channels-not-currently-available-on-28-2E-using-E2-with-a-cam&p=287046&viewfull=1#post287046).
It should do what you want.

Sounds perfect. :-)

Downloaded, installed and was able to select it in ABM - however I couldn't find an option for "swap channels = yes" in ABM - am I looking in the wrong place? In any event - at the moment selecting 405 still shows $ky Sports News HD on screen and of course SSNHD doesn't clear. Tried an Enigma restart but it made no difference. Restart the whole box perhaps?

Cheers,

Steve

duoduo
15-06-14, 18:56
I've attached a custom ABM xml file to the end of this post (http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?37698-Channels-not-currently-available-on-28-2E-using-E2-with-a-cam&p=287046&viewfull=1#post287046).
It should do what you want.

I will give this a try one I get the kids to bed, thanks for your dedicated work Judge :thumbsup:

abu baniaz
15-06-14, 18:57
HD swap affects the contents of bouquets, not numbering. AFAIK.

See correction further down.

steveharman
15-06-14, 19:02
Err, so not possible to dial up say 106 or 405 from the keypad?

judge
15-06-14, 19:21
HD swap affects the contents of bouquets, not numbering. AFAIK.

It does change the numbering of the main bouquet.

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judge
15-06-14, 19:27
however I couldn't find an option for "swap channels = yes" in ABM - am I looking in the wrong place?
Its highlighted on the screenshot I added to that post.

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You need to set Setup mode = expert in the AutoBouquetsMaker configure screen. Should have added that to the post...

duoduo
15-06-14, 19:53
Hi judge please can you post a screen shot of your ABM providers setup? I have installed the custom xml and stopped freesat and sky England. I have restarted my solo2 and gone into Epg but the look is still the same so I must be missing something somewhere I.e 106 is still SKY1HD as oppose to just sky1 or am I missing something?

steveharman
15-06-14, 19:55
Its highlighted on the screenshot I added to that post.

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You need to set Setup mode = expert in the AutoBouquetsMaker configure screen. Should have added that to the post...

Brilliant! :-) Thanks again Judge, all good now.

Although - for some reason keying 405 from my keypad takes me to $ky Sports 4 (Ch.436), not $ky Sports News. We have $ky Sports News SD on Ch.1285 but it's bound to be elsewhere too.

The mapping for channels such as 106 > $ky One SD seem to work fine.

Cheers,

Steve

judge
15-06-14, 20:01
Hi judge please can you post a screen shot of your ABM providers setup?

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No need to do any restarts after adding the file.

judge
15-06-14, 20:02
Although - for some reason keying 405 from my keypad takes me to $ky Sports 4 (Ch.436), not $ky Sports News. We have $ky Sports News SD on Ch.1285 but it's bound to be elsewhere too.

I didn't check all channels were right, if you spot any more please post them & I'll fix it up later tonight.

duoduo
15-06-14, 20:04
Ran a new scan and reboot and all is good, thanks again Judge

DaMacFunkin
16-06-14, 12:55
Hello I've been doing this for weeks, in my. XML not only do I swap channels I also move the dark hd channels further up the channel list out of the way, if any body wants me to post it later on I will but you must unhide sections before uploading the XML. I also have one for cable which is in the abm section.

steveharman
16-06-14, 16:02
Hu Judge,

Did you have a chance to check the $ky Sports News [405] >> $ky Sports 4 instead issue? I just installed the currently available ABM XML and when choosing 405 for S.S.News from the keypad we still seem to go to Ch.436 (S.S.Four) instead of S.S.News.

Cheers,

Steve

UPDATE: We seem to get S.S.News SD on Ch.1285 so I tried changing some key values in your XML: <channel number="1285" with="405" />

Now when keying 405 we go to....err, 405 (S.S.N.HD which of course fails to clear.). Evidently this is not as easy as I'd hoped! ;-)

DaMacFunkin
16-06-14, 18:55
Try mine mate, but i insist you must unhide any sections BEFORE overwriting your existing xml and save your settings (exit settings), once over written you can re-hide your sections, run abm, then reload bouquets, should be fine.

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p.s. reason you must un-hide your bouquets first is swapping channels that are on section boundary's seems to move the boundary, so i have re-sectioned them so the boundarys fall in the correct place.
p.p.s. after running my xml your dark hd channels will be really hard to find so your Mrs or kids can't set programs to record off them... :rolleyes:

Andy_Hazza
16-06-14, 19:28
I didn't check all channels were right, if you spot any more please post them & I'll fix it up later tonight.

In Providers setup, Change generate main bouquets to No and you will have the correct numbering.

dougle34
16-06-14, 19:43
Can some one help I know sly have blocked all the hd channels and have already changed my Bouquestst to SD channels and free HD . Just today I can not get Sly H2 channel it was ok yesterday 15/06/2014, I am using a Vu+ solo2 with openvix emgima 2

steveharman
16-06-14, 19:45
Try mine mate, but i insist you must unhide any sections BEFORE overwriting your existing xml and save your settings (exit settings), once over written you can re-hide your sections, run abm, then reload bouquets, should be fine.

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p.s. reason you must un-hide your bouquets first is swapping channels that are on section boundary's seems to move the boundary, so i have re-sectioned them so the boundarys fall in the correct place.
p.p.s. after running my xml your dark hd channels will be really hard to find so your Mrs or kids can't set programs to record off them... :rolleyes:

Great, seems to do exactly what we wanted! (405 >> S.S.News SD).

Curiously I needed to run a re-download of CrossEPG data after running an ABM scan with your XML installed (the EPG was entirely empty) but that only took a few seconds.

Many thanks!

Steve

Martincape
16-06-14, 19:50
How and where do I install the .xml file pal?

Also, how can I edit the bouquets myself? I'd like to learn how. Cheers.

Stanman
16-06-14, 21:57
Can some one help I know sly have blocked all the hd channels and have already changed my Bouquestst to SD channels and free HD . Just today I can not get Sly H2 channel it was ok yesterday 15/06/2014, I am using a Vu+ solo2 with openvix emgima 2

its Moved frequency. You Need to rescan


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dougle34
16-06-14, 22:31
done a rescan and upated channels list but still do not get H2, the channel list is from 11/06/2014 but lost H2 today

abu baniaz
16-06-14, 22:34
done a rescan and upated channels list but still do not get H2, the channel list is from 11/06/2014 but lost H2 today

What is H2 please?

dougle34
16-06-14, 22:40
H2. it is on documentaries from sky after history +1, its like a second history channel

abu baniaz
16-06-14, 22:48
Perform another scan. It may have been a tranmission issue.

Larry-G
16-06-14, 23:02
As stanman says this is just down to a frequency change.

http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?3621-Sky-uk-28-2-east-NEW-CHANNELS&p=297987&viewfull=1#post297987

ace5
18-06-14, 23:25
where do I install the .xml file ....thanks

abu baniaz
19-06-14, 00:13
where do I install the .xml file ....thanks
It goes in here.


/usr/lib/enigma2/python/Plugins/SystemPlugins/AutoBouquetsMaker/providers/

jonnywells
20-06-14, 16:47
Is there anyway when selecting a category in the bouquets (ie movies) that the channels also change to the SD version?

If i press 301 or goto the all channels section everything is in the right place but if select the movies sections etc etc i get this35468

mickyblueys
20-06-14, 17:37
Is there anyway when selecting a category in the bouquets (ie movies) that the channels also change to the SD version?

If i press 301 or goto the all channels section everything is in the right place but if select the movies sections etc etc i get this35468
using lraizer auto bouquet and custom swap file, does exactly as you ask!

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jonnywells
20-06-14, 17:41
And how do i go about setting that up. Currently just use the ABM that's included in openvix.

Andy_Hazza
20-06-14, 17:42
ViX ABM is so much cleaner than Liazer's in my opinion. My mates had this and they had missing channels all over the place, where as the ViX ABM are all hidden if not in use etc.

mickyblueys
20-06-14, 17:45
ViX ABM is so much cleaner than Liazer's in my opinion. My mates had this and they had missing channels all over the place, where as the ViX ABM are all hidden if not in use etc.
then your mate ain't set it up correctly, it his tunes aren't set correctly. I've had it since day one, and it finds everything perfectly

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jonnywells
20-06-14, 17:47
ViX ABM is so much cleaner than Liazer's in my opinion. My mates had this and they had missing channels all over the place, where as the ViX ABM are all hidden if not in use etc.


Would rather stick with Vix's ABM if possible. Just need to figure out how when selecting a category to work right

Andy_Hazza
20-06-14, 17:48
then your mate ain't set it up correctly, it his tunes aren't set correctly. I've had it since day one, and it finds everything perfectly

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No I don't mean that buddy, like sky don't use all the numbering so the ones in between are hidden? But on Liazer's one my mates had didn't?

mickyblueys
20-06-14, 17:50
Not sure what you mean you'll have to explain a little more in depth

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Andy_Hazza
20-06-14, 17:55
Not sure what you mean you'll have to explain a little more in depth

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Ok bud. Lets say you are in sports;

421 is Chelsea TV then 422, 423, 424, 425 are hidden then you get BT Sport 1 HD. On ViX the in between ones are hidden where as on Liazer's not hidden and say n/a?

jonnywells
20-06-14, 17:56
Well spent a couple hours trying a couple peoples different .xml files but still no joy giving up for now. Im buggered if i can figure this or even if its possible

mickyblueys
20-06-14, 17:56
Yeah he's got set wrong, if he puts hide pli placeholders to yes. That will sort out! :-)

Edit: heres some screenshots to help

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/21/ajaqeden.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/21/uzy2yre2.jpg


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Andy_Hazza
20-06-14, 17:58
Ah cool. I'll give him a ring and mention that. Good stuff, thanks buddy! :thumbsup:

mickyblueys
20-06-14, 18:03
Ah cool. I'll give him a ring and mention that. Good stuff, thanks buddy! :thumbsup:
Just posted some screenshots for you

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Andy_Hazza
20-06-14, 18:09
Yeah he's got set wrong, if he puts hide pli placeholders to yes. That will sort out! :-)

Edit: heres some screenshots to help

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/21/ajaqeden.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/21/uzy2yre2.jpg


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Yeah that's sorted it buddy. Ur a star! :thumbsup:

DaMacFunkin
20-06-14, 18:27
Is there anyway when selecting a category in the bouquets (ie movies) that the channels also change to the SD version?

If i press 301 or goto the all channels section everything is in the right place but if select the movies sections etc etc i get this35468
Swap trick only works in main bouquet on abm... (Sort of).

duoduo
22-06-14, 08:29
Hu Judge,

Did you have a chance to check the $ky Sports News [405] >> $ky Sports 4 instead issue? I just installed the currently available ABM XML and when choosing 405 for S.S.News from the keypad we still seem to go to Ch.436 (S.S.Four) instead of S.S.News.

Cheers,

Steve

UPDATE: We seem to get S.S.News SD on Ch.1285 so I tried changing some key values in your XML: <channel number="1285" with="405" />

Now when keying 405 we go to....err, 405 (S.S.N.HD which of course fails to clear.). Evidently this is not as easy as I'd hoped! ;-)

Hi Judge,

How recent is your xml file Judge? I installed it when you first posted it but sly sports is still messed up.

judge
22-06-14, 09:21
How recent is your xml file Judge? I installed it when you first posted it but sly sports is still messed up.

Sorry, I haven't had a chance to look at it since, enjoying a holiday...
Will get around to it later this week.

duoduo
22-06-14, 09:38
Thanks, have a great time..

abu baniaz
22-06-14, 13:02
Go to thread and download again. Some edits were made.

m1nz
22-06-14, 13:43
I have been using the sat_sky_england_custom.xml for the main bouquet created by ABM but can this be changed under generate sections bouquet eg Sport HD show first instead of SD

Andy_Hazza
22-06-14, 16:33
Go to thread and download again. Some edits were made.

Hi Abu,

I would like to make my own little custom swap, can you point me in the right direction what to do? I have set ABM to SD region and what I want to try first is swapping BBC1, BBC2, ITV, CH4 and CH5 standard def to high def.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Andy.H

DaMacFunkin
22-06-14, 16:35
You can't swap channels with ABM when set to SD region Andy...

DaMacFunkin
22-06-14, 16:39
I have been using the sat_sky_england_custom.xml for the main bouquet created by ABM but can this be changed under generate sections bouquet eg Sport HD show first instead of SD

No you can't swap channels in any bouquet other than main bouquet unless you want to try and get creative with your sections but I wouldn't advise it...

Andy_Hazza
22-06-14, 17:28
You can't swap channels with ABM when set to SD region Andy...

Yeah I understand I can't with SD In ABM, but can I not modify the xml file and swap that way?

abu baniaz
22-06-14, 23:06
You will have to edit the filter section so that your SD region is also included in the list of regions that allow HD swap.

The following are the sd regions for England



<filter bouquet="0x1001" region="0x01" />
<filter bouquet="0x1001" region="0x02" />
<filter bouquet="0x1001" region="0x03" />
<filter bouquet="0x1001" region="0x04" />
<filter bouquet="0x1001" region="0x05" />
<filter bouquet="0x1001" region="0x06" />
<filter bouquet="0x1001" region="0x07" />
<filter bouquet="0x1001" region="0x08" />
<filter bouquet="0x1001" region="0x09" />
<filter bouquet="0x1001" region="0x0a" />
<filter bouquet="0x1001" region="0x0b" />
<filter bouquet="0x1001" region="0x0c" />
<filter bouquet="0x1001" region="0x0d" />
<filter bouquet="0x1001" region="0x12" />
<filter bouquet="0x1001" region="0x13" />
<filter bouquet="0x1001" region="0x14" />
<filter bouquet="0x1001" region="0x15" />
<filter bouquet="0x1001" region="0x18" />
<filter bouquet="0x1001" region="0x19" />
<filter bouquet="0x1001" region="0x1a" />
<filter bouquet="0x1001" region="0x1b" />
<filter bouquet="0x1001" region="0x1c" />
<filter bouquet="0x1001" region="0x1d" />
<filter bouquet="0x1002" region="0x23" />
<filter bouquet="0x1003" region="0x29" />
<filter bouquet="0x1003" region="0x2d" />
<filter bouquet="0x1003" region="0x3c" />
<filter bouquet="0x1003" region="0x3d" />
<filter bouquet="0x1003" region="0x3e" />
<filter bouquet="0x1003" region="0x3f" />
<filter bouquet="0x1003" region="0x40" />
<filter bouquet="0x1003" region="0x41" />
<filter bouquet="0x1003" region="0x42" />
<filter bouquet="0x1003" region="0x43" />
<filter bouquet="0x1003" region="0x44" />
<filter bouquet="0x1003" region="0x45" />
<filter bouquet="0x1003" region="0x46" />
<filter bouquet="0x1003" region="0x47" />
<filter bouquet="0x1003" region="0x48" />
<filter bouquet="0x1004" region="0x22" />

duoduo
23-06-14, 07:25
Go to thread and download again. Some edits were made.

Do have to remove the previous version first abu

abu baniaz
23-06-14, 07:56
Transfer it. You will be asked if you want to replace existing one, say yes.

(Same thing as deleting existing modified one and then transferring new modified one). Hope that makes sense.

m1nz
23-06-14, 12:58
How are the section bouquest created. Is there no way to edit them

DaMacFunkin
23-06-14, 15:23
You can edit the sections, you can even add your own sections but remember a channel is allocated to a bouquet before channel swap runs, so for example you can't hide adult section then move sky sports 1 hd to an adult section number and expect it to be hidden because it won't, it has already been allocated to the sports section.

duoduo
23-06-14, 16:58
Transfer it. You will be asked if you want to replace existing one, say yes.

(Same thing as deleting existing modified one and then transferring new modified one). Hope that makes sense.

Yes it makes sense, it didn't ask me to overwrite that's why I asked and now for some reason my sports section is in meltdown lol I have lost sky sports news sd and sky sports 1 sd. I have tried running scan again but no change. If anyone can help I would appreciate it.

m1nz
24-06-14, 21:36
how the are sections created. all I want to do is move down the HD channels in each section

abu baniaz
24-06-14, 21:44
how the are sections created. all I want to do is move down the HD channels in each section
ABM was designed to mimic the broadcaster placement of channels. The sections are decided by the LCN. It was not intended for user customisation with regards to moving channels around. You can trick it by swapping channels around including non existent ones too.

You may be better off using Lraizer's version and use the custom sort feature. You can then decide on what each bouquet contains and in which order.

Martincape
26-06-14, 19:49
Is there a way to setup ABM so it has the FTA HD channels lined up first but the next in the order the SD channels?

duoduo
26-06-14, 19:53
Don't suppose anyone as an updated channel xml after today please. I would use ABM but don't want to lose the hd channels I have ie ITV, bbc1 and bbc2.

abu baniaz
26-06-14, 21:11
Don't suppose anyone as an updated channel xml after today please. I would use ABM but don't want to lose the hd channels I have ie ITV, bbc1 and bbc2.
If you use the SD region, they will still be there, just different numbers. You also get the additional option of FTA HD bouquet. Granted that they willl not be at top of the entertainment bouquet

duoduo
26-06-14, 21:40
Thanks for your response abu bit ideally and if it's available I want whatever I can get in hd to be shown in main bouquet.

abu baniaz
26-06-14, 21:55
Save me checking, post back channel numbers of remaining HD channels when you use an SD region. Both HD and SD numbers please.

duoduo
26-06-14, 21:58
I think there is only ITV, bbc1 bbc2 cbeebies which are now in HD mate. The channel numbers I have is 103,101,102,614 but I don't think this is what you mean is it?

Martincape
26-06-14, 22:06
Think he means pal, for BBC1, BBC2 and ITV1:

SD versions are 101, 102 and 103
HD versions are 141, 142 and 178

duoduo
26-06-14, 22:06
BBC1 HD 141
BBC2 is showing at 102 so doesn't need changing
ITV1 HD is 178
Cbeebies HD is again showing in correct place

abu baniaz
26-06-14, 22:11
Need to use the SD region.
Need names and both numbers next to it. Sorry would do it myself but have a cold and thumping headache.

duoduo
26-06-14, 22:20
Thanks for your help mate.

Bbc1 sd 101 bbc1hd 141
Bbc2 sd 102 bbc2 hd 142
ITV sd 103 ITV HD 178
Cbeebies sd 614 cbeebies hd 624

Is this OK? In not sure if there are other like bbc3 hd, itv2 hd etc that will work?

DaMacFunkin
27-06-14, 05:33
I will get onto it tonight, i was at a meeting till late last night, i might over the weekend also try to manipulate sd region so Channels 1-4 are hd and all the HD channels move way way out of site.

abu baniaz
27-06-14, 16:00
The xml in Judge's thread works on HD region. (The HD channels are swapped over {not moved} ).

Click here for the thread (http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?37698-Channels-not-currently-available-on-28-2E-using-E2-with-a-cam)

Stanman
27-06-14, 16:43
Works perfectly. Viva SD:p

Cheers Judge, great job bud.

mike_6480
27-06-14, 18:36
I've tried this and it doesn't work for me. The new xml doesn't appear in ABM so I can't select it

Stanman
27-06-14, 18:48
Are you putting it in the right location?

It needs to be unrared and the .xml file needs to go to folder.

Did 3 boxes and all worked fine.

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mike_6480
27-06-14, 18:51
yes I'm following the instructions here - however I cannot select sly uk black in ABM



Download the latest XML from the first post here

http://www.world-of-satellite.com/sh...-E2-with-a-cam

You need to transfer the XML to this location

/usr/lib/enigma2/python/Plugins/SystemPlugins/AutoBouquetsMaker/providers/

and than go into ABM and disable sly UK and select sly uk black and enable HD swap and this will move all the SD channels to the same position as the blacked out HD but keep the ftv HD in place

judge
27-06-14, 18:53
I've tried this and it doesn't work for me. The new xml doesn't appear in ABM so I can't select it

Did you extract the xml to the correct location?
Just did it here & it's showing up fine...

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mike_6480
27-06-14, 18:56
Yes - I can even show you screenshots if you can tell me how to do it from my TV.

I've just deleted the xml file and re copied it.

Still doesn't recognise it in ABM

Larry-G
27-06-14, 19:06
Yes - I can even show you screenshots if you can tell me how to do it from my TV.

I've just deleted the xml file and re copied it.

Still doesn't recognise it in ABM

What exact Image are you using (include the build version number).

mike_6480
27-06-14, 19:17
Vix Zeus
Build: 005
kernel: 3.1.1

Larry-G
27-06-14, 19:18
That image is running a old version of ABM which may not be fully compatible with the file judge uploaded, try a newer image and see if it works then.

mike_6480
27-06-14, 20:07
Thanks. Just updated to latest version of Apollo. It now find the xml in ABM. I haven't actually applied it yet as have a recording that's about to start so want to wait for that to finish.

Might be a good idea for someone to add to the instructions that you might need to update your image to latest version?

Thanks a lot for you help,
Mike

Martincape
27-06-14, 20:43
Just done mine. Works a treat. Only one problem, channel 5 HD isn't free to air.

Larry-G
27-06-14, 20:44
Thanks. Just updated to latest version of Apollo. It now find the xml in ABM. I haven't actually applied it yet as have a recording that's about to start so want to wait for that to finish.

Might be a good idea for someone to add to the instructions that you might need to update your image to latest version?

Thanks a lot for you help,
Mike

Its the same procedure to flash a new image as it is a old one.

Andy_Hazza
27-06-14, 21:01
Will this work if I select Sheffield as my region?

Martincape
27-06-14, 21:02
I select Border HD and it's spot on. Just channel 5 HD needs unswapped lol

Andy_Hazza
27-06-14, 21:12
Problem with this is I don't generate main bouquets as I like sky numbering per section and don't like the all channels bouquet. :-(

Thanks for the efforts tho guys.

Martincape
27-06-14, 21:17
I just went to the movies section. All the HD channels are listed first :(

abu baniaz
27-06-14, 21:21
@Andy Hazza, use HD first or words to that effect.

@martincape, screenshots of settings please.

Stanman
27-06-14, 22:17
I select Border HD and it's spot on. Just channel 5 HD needs unswapped lol

HD is not F TV and is gone

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Martincape
27-06-14, 22:18
Yea I know. But on Sky England Black, Channel 5 HD is listed first. Hence it needs unswapped.

Stanman
27-06-14, 22:20
Not here, try another region and see if it changes

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judge
27-06-14, 22:38
Yea I know. But on Sky England Black, Channel 5 HD is listed first. Hence it needs unswapped.

Done, updated xml in this post (http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?37698-Channels-not-currently-available-on-28-2E-using-E2-with-a-cam&p=287046&viewfull=1#post287046).

DaMacFunkin
28-06-14, 06:22
I will get onto it tonight, i was at a meeting till late last night, i might over the weekend also try to manipulate sd region so Channels 1-4 are hd and all the HD channels move way way out of site.
Heres my xml, as always it moves dark HD channels way up the list so they don't get in the way, as always if you havnt used this xml before, unhide all sections first.

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doncastermems
28-06-14, 11:27
Will that file you just uploaded work with vix image

Martincape
28-06-14, 11:31
It will pal.

I like the Sky Black XML guys. Only problem I have with it, which is more of an issue than fta channels being sd listed first. Is that with the Black bouquets, if you use the sections, like movies or sports, the HD versions are listed first in them.

All channels bouquet is spot on, but the sections are hd listed first. We use the sections for going to kids, movies, sports etc.

Larry-G
28-06-14, 11:36
Will that file you just uploaded work with vix image

Yes but you will need to be running a newer version of ABM as it wont work with older versions, so if you are not already, update the image to one of the latest in the Apollo series first.

northernmonkey
28-06-14, 14:41
DaMacFunkin,

I'm in the same boat with Channel 5 HD being listed on 105 and obviously not working. I need to swap 105 and 171, I've tried editing the xml myself (no success!) by copying one of the swap lines and adding the channels I need swapping....

I'm using Merdian South East Region.

Can you help?

WOODWARD395
28-06-14, 16:07
:alien::alien:I have lost nearly all including all sd sports any one else in same situation. :mad::mad:

abu baniaz
28-06-14, 18:30
Please try this one.

Downsides:
Ripped out all the HD regions
To enable the swap the all channels section must be created. This adds lag to the EPG system.
Swap only affects the all chanenls bouquetr, not the other bouquets.

northernmonkey
28-06-14, 20:07
Please try this one.

Downsides:
Ripped out all the HD regions
To enable the swap the all channels section must be created. This adds lag to the EPG system.
Swap only affects the all chanenls bouquetr, not the other bouquets.

Works great with my Solo2, no noticable lag so far. Thanks very much mate.

The only thing i have noticed is a couple of the kids channels (CBBC HD and CBeebies HD) are still active. Is there a write up on how to edit the xml file to swap these channels?

abu baniaz
28-06-14, 21:14
Is there a write up on how to edit the xml file to swap these channels?

The write up is:
Use a linux comptible editor like Notepad++. Do not confuse with windows notepad.
Use a different name for teh file/provider to the official ones
Backup file before trying edits.
Backup image before trying something new.

If you look at the xml, there is a section with the following. (I have deliberately ignored the filters. These are the regions which are allowed to have swap. Do not touch these)


<swapchannels>
<channel number="141" with="101" />
<channel number="142" with="102" />
<channel number="178" with="103" />
<channel number="230" with="104" />
<channel number="210" with="115" />
<channel number="211" with="116" />
<channel number="342" with="315" />
<channel number="426" with="413" />
<channel number="427" with="414" />
<channel number="433" with="417" />
<channel number="516" with="501" />
<channel number="570" with="503" />
<channel number="518" with="512" />
</swapchannels>

It should be intuitive as to what it means. That is the status of it as I had uploaded. You are quite correct. I missed the kids one. For the kids ones that I missed, we would have to add


<channel number="633" with="613" />
<channel number="624" with="614" />


I have attached an updated one.

Lriazer's one is more user customiseable. If you dont mind the first large bouquet, you can make the swaps for numbering as well as sort channels in the other bouquets. I used to have the most used ones at the top of each bouquet with the rest in alphabetical order.

northernmonkey
28-06-14, 21:50
I was so close on my own haha! I had the channel numbers round the wrong way!

I love being able to do things for myself, I just wish I had some programming skills. I bet this is all pretty basic stuff for you boys?

You'll have to excuse us 'old' folk who only had a zx81 to work with back in the day!

Flyingpig
28-06-14, 21:51
Do we think that SD will go eventually as well?? What are the people in the knows thoughts??

Some providers are totally secure and you cant share a thing, others are okay,,,,, cant understand the difference. Sly UK was one of the most secure but has somehow drifted back a bit and maybe now this is them getting back to the top....

m1nz
29-06-14, 21:57
It there a tool to do this. Also on future release would it not be nice to move the changes up or down for the sections

steveharman
30-06-14, 15:43
Brilliant. Working well on a GigaBlue Quad HD. No noticeable lag on EPG either.

My first mistake was to enable ONLY the UK Test provider in ABM - which resulted in an empty EPG even after re-scan and a box restart. Went back into ABM and enabled Sky England with HD (that might not be the precise description...) along with the UK Test XML / provider as well and it's working a treat. Many thanks!

DaMacFunkin
30-06-14, 20:03
Sorry i have been away from this thread for a few days but I don't know what the big ooh ahh is about, my XML doesn't place CH5 HD at channel 105, and mine places the HD channels well up the channel list.

steveharman
30-06-14, 20:31
Uusing your XML everything is fine for me except CH5.

On the EPG I have (in this order from the top) BBC1HD, BBC2HD, ITVHD, CH4HD all of which work fine as they're unaffected by $ky's recent change of course. Next comes CH5HD which goes to CH171 (HD) and that doesn't clear any more. I'd like the CH5 entry in my EPG to be CH5-SD - is there something daft I'm doing / not doing in the ABM settings?

For example should I be using an Sky England HD or SD region? And should I be generating an HD bouquet? Screenshot of my ABM Settings attached...

Cheers,

Steve

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zoomzoomluke
31-07-14, 13:59
So here is another custom XML...

Features:
blacklist - always remove these channels from channel list
whitelist - do not auto delete
auto delete - removes all HD channels that are not on the whitelist and are not FTA
channel swap - most common FTA HD channels are swapped.

To use:
install supplied XML
select your region in SD only (no point in having HD channel order)
select if you want to channel swap


EDIT by Abu Baniaz:
Attachment moved to its own thread here. Makes sense to have files in one place.
http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?39704-ZoomZoomLuke-s-Custom-28-2-xml-file (http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?39704-ZoomZoomLuke-s-Custom-28-2-xml-file)

orange1234
11-08-17, 17:37
Hi guys, is there an easy way to delete the non working channels from the sky SD bouquet, so only the working channels are listed in the EPG?

As a quick work around, I went through and added all the working channels to "Favourites" only to find only one channel added :confused: I pressed down (Large circular button), clicked on "All Channels", highlighted the channel, pressed "Menu", then 7 "Add service to bouquet". I then pressed back to the channel list and carried on. I tried ABM S etc but "Favourites" still had only 1 channel. Any Ideas?

Having tried adding the working channels to Favourites, I think rather than go through and add hundreds of channels again, I think it would be easier to be able to delete the dozen non working ones?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Huevos
11-08-17, 17:39
Easiest way is let ABM create the bouquets.

Andy_Hazza
11-08-17, 17:48
And use Custom"Your Region" when you setup in Provides with ABM. Simples.


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orange1234
11-08-17, 22:56
Sorry I don't think I explained what I'm trying to achieve. I want to create a bouquets without the sly channels that don't work any more. How do I delete the non working sly channels ones from the EPG?

Ashley69
12-08-17, 07:22
Huveos and Andy have already stated what you need to do.
Use autobouquetmaker to scan for your channels. Select region(custom). Change swap channels to yes.
Start scan.

Andy_Hazza
12-08-17, 08:54
Sorry I don't think I explained what I'm trying to achieve. I want to create a bouquets without the sly channels that don't work any more. How do I delete the non working sly channels ones from the EPG?

Using "CustomRegion) DOES get rid of all the unwanted channels.


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Ashley69
12-08-17, 09:11
Is your ABM config File’s up to date.

abu baniaz
12-08-17, 12:17
Please use latest ABM and see this this thread
http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?47834-ABM-How-to-exclude-unavailable-HD-amp-SD-Sky-channels

And also this
http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?44783-Please-read-before-raising-ABM-support-questions


These thread is from 2014. ABM has changed significantly since then. Majority of what is in this thread is not required. Thread closed.