View Full Version : windows 64 or 32 bit ?
Hi
could some please explain the difference and advantages/dis advantages and how you know which your system can run ?
thanks
Sloth
Do you know what processor your PC has?
To run 64bit you need dual core processor at least the advantage of 64bit operating system is it will use both processors properly so in theory should run faster versus 32bit
the main reasons to use 64 bit over 32 is
1- 32bit operating system can only see and utilize a total of 3 GB of memory even if u have more than this fitted in your system.
2- for the new 64 bit software as to have files larger than 2 GB.
thanks guys
i currently have a core 2 duo E4500 processor .. with 4gig ddr 2 and a gt9800 Nvida graphics card ... i run 32bit win 7 and always thought it was a Hardware thing 32 v 64 ..
cheers
again guys
Sloth
Just another quick ...so what does windows do with my 4th gig if it only utilizes 3 gig ?????
1 gig is useless, put on the shelf :)
mate
so are you saying that nothing uses it ? not graphics card nothing ? ... man thats right pissed me off LOL what a waste ! :confused:
Sloth :D
sorry for that m8
but it is the ugly truth, 32 bit systems don't use or utilize more than 3 gigs
if u look at ur system description, u'll find it saying RAM is 3 GIG
Nah thats just it ...it doesnt say that ...it says 4 gig ! how can i get a screen shot of the page and i,ll post it ? ...
Nah thats just it ...it doesnt say that ...it says 4 gig ! how can i get a screen shot of the page and i,ll post it ? ...
look here for a more detailed answer
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/PAE/PAEmem.mspx
Hi mate
thanks for that ...but i dont have a clue what its going on about LOL !! ...and it doesnt mention windows 7 ?
sloth
it will see the 4 but will only address 3
have a look here
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778%28VS.85%29.aspx
http://www.brianmadden.com/blogs/brianmadden/archive/2004/02/19/the-4gb-windows-memory-limit-what-does-it-really-mean.aspx
Your CPU is 64bit, so in effect you could install 64bit operating system and use all your 4GB ram.
As already stated a 32bit operating will only see 4gb of memory not 3gb as other people have said. However it is a total of 4gb so if your onboard graphics card is 512mb and you have also purchased a 1gb graphics card then that will only 2½ gig left for the OS. The main advantage is that it will run a lot smoother with the 64 bit archetecture. If you install office and other apps be sure to download the 64 bit version as this will utitilise the hardware and run to its full potential.. Now not all software is available in 64bit but you can use the x86 install in compatibility mode. The main thing is that all your drivers that you download need to be the 64bit version. If you are having difficulty obtaining the windows7 64bit drivers, you can always try the Vista 64bit ones. Anyhow I would personally go for 64bit. As browsing the web will be better. Good Luck
Hi guys
thanks for your input so far , another quick question ...is it possible to just install win 7 64 straight over the top of win 7 32 ? and then just clean up whats left when install is done ?
cheers
Sloth
yes it possible Soth
but unless it is a must, a clean install is better
silverfox0786
18-10-10, 15:04
@sloth to screen capture the easy way is to open the window you want and get the screen up then top right of keyboard is 'PrtSc' thats Print Screen press it once then open up MS Paint and paste it on there is your screen now then just save as JPG
i use 64 on PC and 32 on Laptop there are your ups and downs to both but in your case sloth pop in 64 bit
one last thing i have 2 legitimate copies of windows 7 ultimate 1 on lap one on pc but i want to take it off my lap and sell lap it is a sepertate purchased operating system would that be alowed to be posted on the sales page as its not intended to be pre installed ???
@sloth to screen capture the easy way is to open the window you want and get the screen up then top right of keyboard is 'PrtSc' thats Print Screen press it once then open up MS Paint and paste it on there is your screen now then just save as JPG
i use 64 on PC and 32 on Laptop there are your ups and downs to both but in your case sloth pop in 64 bit
one last thing i have 2 legitimate copies of windows 7 ultimate 1 on lap one on pc but i want to take it off my lap and sell lap it is a sepertate purchased operating system would that be alowed to be posted on the sales page as its not intended to be pre installed ???
Only if its a genuine retail licence with discs.
What you can do is install a time demo version. I have a few copy's of 180 day versions. install, update then flog as a time demo. anyone with half a brain knows that a time demo can be permenantly disabled. even the built in time demo has a facility to reset itself 4 times that gives you 2 years of free computing :) personally i wipe my pc about once every 6 months anyway. to many porn sites!!
Hello again
Just an update here !! LOL
well i went mental and upgraded everything ! i now have AMD phenom II x4 970 processor running at 3.5ghz:D 4 gig ddr3 ,1 gig graphics card gddr5 and gen version win64 :D:D .
trouble is there are some conflicts which i,m working thru ! so if i dont get on as often thats why :( ..all this so i can play CiV 5 at a reasonble speed LOL ..
laters
SLOTH ;)
i love civ
my copy shall arrive soon :)
how is it sloth
Mate ...its awesome ...even on my old slow PC !! LOL .... still a few bugs ...but theres talk of a big patch in the near future if it hasnt occured already ! .
keep an eye on this
http://www.civilization5.com/#/downloads/
silverfox0786
24-11-10, 23:23
Nah thats just it ...it doesnt say that ...it says 4 gig ! how can i get a screen shot of the page and i,ll post it ? ...
that is true i have 64 bit win 7 and dual boot it with xp as a backup for xp only application and the system shows mw to have all 4 gigs and i am fully aware of the 3 gig limitation
Some software will actually run slower on win7 64bit than 32bit. The software actually needs to be written to take advantage of the 64bit architecture (you'd be surprised how little still is only 32bit). When you run a 32bit program on a 64bit system, the OS has to adapt the program so it works properly- the process is called thunking.
I have had a couple of so called 64bit laptops that were full of problems - these systems were formatted and reinstalled with 32bit and have run flawlessly ever since. Basically 32bit has a lot more support and the drivers are mature. 32bit out of the box is definitely "snappier"
Generally though if you can run 64bit then you should (unless running legacy software that will not run under 64bit) as things are only going to move forward.
Tip of the day: If you cannot find a win7 driver then try to install a Vista driver manually - most of the time they work very well.
You can also allow 32 bit windows so you can use more of the ram so you get best of both worlds if you know how
silverfox0786
04-10-11, 20:17
jcm rule 7 of the forum rules also applies to disscussion so please watch where this is going
7. No links to copyright material including hacks and cracks
Oh sorry mate i didnt realise edited the post to remove the term
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