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sonc
11-10-10, 12:32
The "old" dream elite forum (_http://www.dream-elite.net/forum/) now carries the following message, while the "new" dmm-elite (_http://dmm-elite.com/forum/) is no more.

Dream Elite Team was born from a group of enthusiasts of satellite receivers and Linux. The development and deployment of Linux-based systems has now long since gone beyond the mere scope of the personal computer. Linux receivers currently offer fans the best performance and the largest range of potential and personalization in the field both from a standpoint of GUI application development. Because of the great potential that obviously can be used for both good and evil we have witnessed the development and the phenomena of piracy with the emergence of pay- servers that use card- sharing over the Internet to offer Pay TV. Pay TV without a regular subscription results in illegal profits to the detriment not only of television providers but also the whole community of fans of TV and this kind of receiver. The whole community have become victims of a real smear campaign that has implemented the equation " Linux Receiver = Pirate ".

At the same time we have seen the emergence of another form of piracy that is not going to hit just television providers, but the producers of Linux-based decoder with the sale of " Cloned Products " These are manufactured at bargain prices from companies who did not in any way invest in the development of the platforms in question and offer no contribution to the continued development. The same limitations just make an unfair competition through the sale of cloned copies of the same products making unjust gain to the detriment not only of the original manufacturers but also the fans that develop applications for free. Dream Elite Team considers these forms of piracy both highly dangerous and destructive for all true hobbyists and enthusiasts who want only for the satellite community to grow in peace and in full compliance with the law.

Our dream would be to be able to use Linux-based receivers in a legal manner for the sole purpose of being free to view television with a full Pay-TV subscription in full compliance with applicable laws. It is our belief that our hobby and passion is now in serious danger. Satellite piracy and in particular the widespread use of pay- server card- sharing services and companies producing clones are going to be fundamental to our demise. The spread of piracy is in fact destroying the group of fans in favour of the category of “smart incompetent " buying Linux-based receivers just to make illegal use and " scrounge " in some way the viewing of television providers without paying for rights. The most serious consequence of this phenomenon is the unleashing of a great witch hunt that no longer distinguishes between fans and pirates.

The possession of a Linux receiver such as a Dreambox is now considered illicit and gains automatic qualification into the world of piracy. Recent publications in many computer magazine articles also associated the use of a Linux based receiver only with its possibilities with illegal use and automatically stigmatize owners as pirates. All this could lead to forms of persecution of the holders of such boxes or otherwise of these products thus depriving real enthusiasts and all those who use these decoders in a perfectly lawful manner. On the other hand the companies that produce clones at bargain prices and contribute nothing to the development are undermining the profits of the original producers. We need to show some loyalty to those who invest time and money and allow us with their investments to always have new and updated software and hardware ensuring not only the present existence of our favourite devices but also future development and evolution at the same time. The Dream Elite Team has always dissociated from both these forms of piracy and the production of clones is firmly at the heart of current bad exposure of our passion.

It is for these reasons that the Dream Elite board has always banned any discussion regarding the use of illegal keys in Linux-based receivers, prohibiting in particular the discussions on the sharing and use of card keys in soft cams. In reality, the Dream Elite Team has even led to an opposite extreme in prohibiting discussions about setting up cams even if they were for the exclusive use of reading a legitimate subscription card. With the current prevalence of piracy our philosophy for enthusiast will always be “better safe than sorry.”

To protect manufacturers, original contributors and combat clones that the Dream Elite Team has also not only banned from their forum threads regarding clones but also taken active measures in combating this phenomenon. Whilst we empathise with many users we now face prospect of our work and philosophy being destroyed with the alteration of its software and the dismantling of images being altered in combination with external servers and addons for misuse other than our original intention.

For all these reasons, the Dream Team Elite will address only the true fans of the hobby and those who want to peacefully enjoy your satellite for pure passion and in full compliance with the law and the work of developers and of the original manufacturers. To those who pay a regular subscription to pay-TV which users and uses Linux-based receivers for product quality and not to play to make piracy network and also feel offended by being branded as pirates despite the regular payment of subscriptions and the cost is not indifferent to addressing this hobby.

The Dream Elite Team at the moment has suspended all of its activities and therefore appeals to all true lovers of Linux -based receivers to make a stand against piracy and actively combat the spread of clones in order to preserve the destruction of this legitimate and wonderful hobby and to protect it from possible destruction.

Piracy and unfair competition are not just battles but they are self- destructive. There are real and more important battles to fight. Let's work together for the sacred right to use a SINGLE DECODER Let's work together for the right to use the satellite receiver and DTT of our choice , whether it is Linux -based or other we should not forced by large networks to use only the decoder of their choice. Otherwise instead of getting a law on freedom and the right to use a receiver of your choice will have the contrary, as is already happening now with the persecution of Linux-based receivers and the preventive and indiscriminate accusation of piracy too. Those who use and pay regular subscription fees of hundreds and hundreds of pounds to the largest national providers have no choice and it is largely your own making.

Regards,
Sonc

paul362
11-10-10, 16:22
Errrm ? ok bye bye DE.

Stanman
11-10-10, 22:10
To be honest I agree with their views on clones especially when you have reasonably priced alternatives to the exorbitant prices charged by DM.

ford
12-10-10, 00:41
Is no wonder why people buy dream clones!!
I'm happy with my Vu+Duo
Putting a DM800 side by side to a VU+ and guess what wins??
The Vu obviously!!
400+ for a DM800!!!!
Yeah right!!

Far superior build quality etc.....

Am glad I got it!

With regards to the DE download server, it's back again, perhaps hosted by a third party??

Best box I ever invested in, and a great support forum.

fulabeer
12-10-10, 08:02
That sounded more like a rant towards clones than anything else.
DM need to sort their prices out before preaching about piracy killing the hobby.

paul362
12-10-10, 08:19
That sounded more like a rant towards clones than anything else.
DM need to sort their prices out before preaching about piracy killing the hobby.

Here here I agree 150% with that.

OldSkulRide
12-10-10, 08:51
I agree too. 400+EUR for crappy DM800?
No wonder clones are popular.

And they are constantly moaning about something. Cmon.

Likvid
14-10-10, 21:15
This is shocking that DMM still after all this time haven't understood why there are so many DM clones out there.

Likvid
14-10-10, 21:16
I agree too. 400+EUR for crappy DM800?
No wonder clones are popular.

And they are constantly moaning about something. Cmon.

If clone makers can make money on a £200 DM800, guess what DMM makes on their overpriced £400 DM800

Update

Don't goto _http://www.dream-elite.net as the site is obviously uploading malware of some kind to your computer, i guess i know what it is after i analyzed it.

superplakis
14-10-10, 22:43
poff poff money money ???
D.E.ad

:P

zola25
15-10-10, 16:35
With the money the charge you would think one day they would fit a decent tuner

sonc
16-10-10, 10:49
Don't goto _http://www.dream-elite.net as the site is obviously uploading malware of some kind to your computer, i guess i know what it is after i analyzed it.

Why do you say "obviously uploading malware"?

What did your analysis find?

Thanks

silverfox0786
25-10-10, 14:17
hey this is the story of every major company be it sat boxes be is console games music cd's you name it and i dont condone piracy but i does make me think well if they gonna rip us off then let us rip them off

Zupy
27-10-10, 12:41
Think that you will hear some good news about Dreamelite team and VU+ box owners soon - stay tuned :D

Sicilian
28-10-10, 06:33
Think that you will hear some good news about Dreamelite team and VU+ box owners soon - stay tuned :D

Zupy, your quite a respected member around this community, but please will re-read the rules (link in my signature, especially rule 4 ;) )

When Dream Elite decide to get their act together and decide exactly what their future path is I'm sure we will all find out, but in the mean time will you please stop trying to promote Dream Elite boards here. Your other thread has been deleted, as previously stated please respect the rules here.

Zupy
28-10-10, 10:08
My apologies - It was not my intention to provoke, but only to report good news for me and other VU+ box owners.
I must admit that I have not seen the change of rules because then it certainly would not have written that topic.:baby:

OldSkulRide
28-10-10, 10:25
What is great about this new forum is that also official VU+ coders will be active there.

Sicilian
28-10-10, 12:00
What is great about this new forum is that also official VU+ coders will be active there.

Until they decide to go back to DMM!

I'd really like to know what made them decide to go to DMM, then drop DMM and now go for VU+??? From an outsider looking in it looks very much like they'll sell their soul's the highest bidder! Really hope I'm wrong and being the Admin here I shouldn't say that, but I just cant be bothered with all this DE this and that crap. I think they should just decide their path and stick with it. A lot of VU+ user's where let down when they decided to close up shop and they couldn't even be bothered to at least keep their addons server live. So what are they actually doing now? Turning their backs on DMM??? :confused:

I know for sure that at one of their team is a VIP member here (under a different name), so if they would care to enlighten us as to what their plan's actually are it would be most appreciated :) This user could send me PM is they like ;)

Now before anyone decides to have a dig at me for saying this I've always had the utmost respect for the old Nabilosat team and then Dream Elite and thank them very much for what they bought to the community, but for me their shenanigans over the last few months have left something to be desired. I'll be watching in anticipation and wish them all the best of luck :)

One thing for sure with the ViX team and this forum, is that we are completely un-biased, we provide support for ALL images and we get fook all from VU+, Dream or any other manufacturer! Even the VU+ Solo provided to the VIX team coder (our great Andyblac :) ) was financed by myself!

Tyler
28-10-10, 23:46
And a great job, Andy and the team put so much work into the vix image and get very little thanks in return.
Loyalty from dm team went out the window, posting shite about Piracy etc.
I agree they would sell there soul to the highest bidder.
Support the vix team who were there when we needed them.