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Rob van der Does
14-12-12, 10:57
AutoBouquetMaker released!

After a period of intensive testing ViX has released their new AutoBouquetMaker, included in all images from build 514. This unique functionality creates bouquets for a number of major providers, where the user has a lot of influence on the layout. Easy to use and very fast running, with an option for regular automated scans.

For this we have to thank Andy Blacburn & Sandro Cavazzoni who have spent a lot of time to create this fabulous feature.

Larry-G
14-12-12, 11:09
Here are a few screen shots of AutoBouquetsMaker on my Ultimo with the ViX image.

Larry-G
14-12-12, 11:23
A few of the really nice features of this plugin as follows.

This plugin currently supports 15 different providers as detailed below

AustriaSat 19.2 East
Canal Digitaal HD 19.2 East
Canal Digitaal SD 19.2 East
Czech Republic 23.5 East
Freesat 28.2 & 28.5 East
Mobistar FR 19.2 East
Mobistar NL 19.2 East
SKY Italy 13.0 East
Sky UK 28.2 & 28.5 East
Slovak Republic 23.5 East
TéléSAT HD 19.2 East
TéléSAT SD 19.2 East
TVSat 13.0 East
TV Vlaanderen HD 19.2 East
TV Vlaanderen SD 19.2 East

This plugin has been coded from the ground up in C+ and python which means it's very fast and does not need any form of service scan prior to using, it can be run from a totally virgin setup in around 60 to 80 seconds flat.

This plugin as the name suggests is a Bouquet Maker that where possible will exactly mirror the provider it has been setup for, for example if setup for sky uk and freesat it will exactly mirror the Sky uk / freesat channel number line up.

The plugin can detect if you have a free tuner ( as in if your using a multi tuner receiver ) and use that tuner, allowing you to continue to watch Live TV with very little interruption other than a spinner and a very brief progress bar. This allows you to manually run the plugin during say a advert break with as little interruption possible. If however you dont have a free tuner as in the case of say a Vu solo dont fret as the plugin will temporarily take over the tuner while retaining it's speed allowing you to run it during a advert break if needed.

This plugin can detect your tuner configuration and will only present you with the providers that correspond to that configuration setup. for example in the above screen shots you can see my setup for sky uk and freesat, without listing all the other providers the plugin supports but can not tune into due to my own setup.

Alanp
14-12-12, 12:00
Really great and very fast plugin thanks for all the hard work, Is there a way to permanatley arrange the bouquet in a prefered order of the users choice Thanks again

sparky72
14-12-12, 12:06
sorry if wrong thread but where can i find this great plugin
thanks

Larry-G
14-12-12, 12:15
sorry if wrong thread but where can i find this great plugin
thanks


The plugin can be accessed from Menu> Setup> Service Searching> AutoBouquetsMaker.

Mr. Mister
14-12-12, 12:43
Really great and very fast plugin thanks for all the hard work, Is there a way to permanatley arrange the bouquet in a prefered order of the users choice Thanks again

Sorry buddy.. Not at the moment..
It has a default layout .. and will always revert back after the next scan..

warajoker
14-12-12, 13:52
can you add "west midlands" to the auto bouquet maker

johnty
14-12-12, 23:01
Installation was a breeze but now I seem to have multiple bouquets, is it possible to delete the MrMister one and if so can it simply be done via remote control or do I have to use dreamboxEDIT?

irishchris
14-12-12, 23:17
you can simply remove any of your other bouquets with remote. press menu and remove entry to remove unwanted bouquet lists

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johnty
15-12-12, 01:21
At what point do you press menu? I have tried doing that after I select EPG but there is no function. Could you be a little more specific, thanks.

judge
15-12-12, 01:24
Press the TV button on the remote to see your list of bouquets, highlight the bouquet, then press menu.

johnty
15-12-12, 01:47
Changed the TV button to show my recordings... Any other way?

judge
15-12-12, 01:53
Are you watching a recording while hitting the TV button?
If so, go back to live TV, hit the TV button again & you will see list of bouquets.

johnty
15-12-12, 02:00
OK sorted thanks, just changed the button setup to show bouquets.

saxon
15-12-12, 08:41
found this fantastic with some of the foreign packages like sky Ita so much easier finding your favorite channels very easy to use big thanks from here

tonyvix
15-12-12, 15:48
Many thanks for this plugin which must have taken a huge effort.

Sadly I need STV HD, so will pass on using this just now.

Once STV HD appears I will certainly use it.

Cheers

madmanuk
15-12-12, 16:32
this sounds great but will it work for the et9000 running openvix image please lads
thanks

Rob van der Does
15-12-12, 16:35
this sounds great but will it work for the et9000 running openvix image please lads
thanks
Yes: the plugin has been designed for ViX.

Larry-G
15-12-12, 16:55
And it's already built directly into the image from build 514 upwards.

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2

safinn
15-12-12, 17:17
Is 514 not on software update?

Larry-G
15-12-12, 17:19
Is 514 not on software update?

Yes although there have since been more updates which are set to unstable.

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twol
15-12-12, 17:21
Appreciate the hard work, but need more flexibility and/or ability to tweak if necessary with standard available tools.

safinn
15-12-12, 17:22
Just tried software update on 504 which im currently on and found nothing.
Is 514 latest stable?

nitrousbhp
15-12-12, 17:28
thanx..nice one

Larry-G
15-12-12, 17:32
Just tried software update on 504 which im currently on and found nothing.
Is 514 latest stable?

I believe ( not sure as I'm online via my phone ), the latest image is set as unstable.

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Larry-G
15-12-12, 17:36
Many thanks for this plugin which must have taken a huge effort.

Sadly I need STV HD, so will pass on using this just now.

Once STV HD appears I will certainly use it.

Cheers


Appreciate the hard work, but need more flexibility and/or ability to tweak if necessary with standard available tools.

Well the plugin is not going to be to every ones liking, but for those who just want a bouquet to follow the service provider, such as sky UK it's in my opinion perfect as is. if it's not up to your needs you can still use other methods to update your bouquets although with this plugin once setup its fully automated.

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Cus2k
15-12-12, 18:06
thanks Andy and Skaman :lifting:

work very fine on my et4000, good

kami2k
15-12-12, 18:18
thanks great

baz135
15-12-12, 18:45
A great addition to a already fabulous image.

Well done the VIX team.

bluey2
15-12-12, 18:53
thanks guys , will hopefully give it a try, i,m just a little reluctant straight away as last time i updated gave me problems and had to restore to an earlier version

Stanman
15-12-12, 19:08
Many thanks for this plugin which must have taken a huge effort.

Sadly I need STV HD, so will pass on using this just now.

Once STV HD appears I will certainly use it.

Cheers

If you can find the service reference for STV HD in the all list, you can manually change it for the channel on pos 103 - not a biggy as I do it for my regional variation

DeGea468
15-12-12, 19:50
First off fantastic plugin works very well and wow the scan is very fast indeed, Big thanks to Andy and Skaman... Great work!

I noticed on DreamBoxEdit you can't 'receive files from dreambox' with the bouquets generated by this plugin? i get an error message. Is this not possible or i'm i doing something wrong?
With the other AutoBouquets plugin, When channels change frequency the picons will no longer be displayed so I would load the bouquets onto DremBoxEdit so i could update picon ref's when they change but Looks like i can't do this now or is there another way to do this?

afc_rich
15-12-12, 20:52
A big thank you to the developers/testers of this plugin. I was a User of the Silverfox/Mr.Mister bouquets and liked the layout, however the ease of use and automation of these bouquets is a winner. The HD swap is also a lovely addition which I don't remember being in the beta release when I last tested.

Since using the autobouquets for SKY (East Anglia) I have noticed the following:

No entries for Sky Anytime (Not that I use this, but some might)
Setanta Sports/Setanta Ireland Missing (This might be due to the SKY region selected, however some users might need these channels)
Channel Numbers (The Mr.Mister bouquets prefixed the channel name with the corresponding channel number. Is there an option to enable this?)

Again big thanks for all the hard work!

taksi02
15-12-12, 21:21
work very fine on my et5x00, good

DeGea468
15-12-12, 21:28
I didn't notice that there was no Setanta Sports & Setanta Ireland, Was watching one of them early today when the football was on using the other autobouquets. So yeah i'm 1 of those users that would very much like these 2 channels added to all regions. also didn't notice Sky Anytime wasn't there either, I would also like these channels added also please.

I had a look to see what else i didn't notice and i'm not 100% sure about how many channels there should be but there are no BBC Interactive channels in the BBC interactive bouquets (i think there is meant to be 1) and there is only 1 sky interactive channel (i think there is meant to be 18) which is in the BBC interactive bouquets. The Sky interactive bouquets is empty.

twol
15-12-12, 21:53
First off fantastic plugin works very well and wow the scan is very fast indeed, Big thanks to Andy and Skaman... Great work!

I noticed on DreamBoxEdit you can't 'receive files from dreambox' with the bouquets generated by this plugin? i get an error message. Is this not possible or i'm i doing something wrong?
With the other AutoBouquets plugin, When channels change frequency the picons will no longer be displayed so I would load the bouquets onto DremBoxEdit so i could update picon ref's when they change but Looks like i can't do this now or is there another way to do this?
My Version of DBE will pull in and process, but recognises errors in the Lamedb .. I Understand this is due to the implementation techniques which are Not compatible.

leechy
16-12-12, 00:41
I didn't notice that there was no Setanta Sports & Setanta Ireland, Was watching one of them early today when the football was on using the other autobouquets. So yeah i'm 1 of those users that would very much like these 2 channels added to all regions. also didn't notice Sky Anytime wasn't there either, I would also like these channels added also please.

I had a look to see what else i didn't notice and i'm not 100% sure about how many channels there should be but there are no BBC Interactive channels in the BBC interactive bouquets (i think there is meant to be 1) and there is only 1 sky interactive channel (i think there is meant to be 18) which is in the BBC interactive bouquets. The Sky interactive bouquets is empty.

I just rescanned on sky irish found it downloaded it db edit and moved it into sports seems ok

DeGea468
16-12-12, 00:42
My Version of DBE will pull in and process, but recognises errors in the Lamedb .. I Understand this is due to the implementation techniques which are Not compatible.
Which version of DBE do you have? Although you get errors does the bouquets and channels load up? if so that's all i need, so i can get the new ref's by the option 'copy service reference to clipboard'.

leechy
16-12-12, 00:43
mines 5.0.2.0

cactikid
16-12-12, 00:57
i have had it on my duo for the last week and am getting the spinning vix if i go up the page to fast and if selecting a channel,and have to restart my mg cam again:confused:user error more like,got it on the max digital 1000 also:D
well done to all thats a massive bit of work:thumbsup:

judge
16-12-12, 01:06
I'm also using dreamboxEDIT 5.0.2.0, download in this thread:
http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?17403-dreamboxEDIT-5-0-2-0&p=127130&viewfull=1#post127130
Although it slows down while downloading bouquets & reports errors, has never failed me.
I then use it to create my custom starting bouquet, upload, then run AutoBouquetMaker again to eliminate any issues DBE had.

wezlyons
16-12-12, 01:28
Fantastic plug in but would like to echo the sentiments regarding Setanta Ireland being included in the bouquets.

It wasn't until 2:50pm today that I noticed it was missing.
I had to quickly install a new bouquets set so I wouldn't miss the 3pm kick off.

judge
16-12-12, 01:39
The plugin installs the localised bouquets you request in the settings.
If you need other channels, create a custom bouquet with them in it.

DeGea468
16-12-12, 02:15
mines 5.0.2.0


I'm also using dreamboxEDIT 5.0.2.0, download in this thread:
http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?17403-dreamboxEDIT-5-0-2-0&p=127130&viewfull=1#post127130
Although it slows down while downloading bouquets & reports errors, has never failed me.
I then use it to create my custom starting bouquet, upload, then run AutoBouquetMaker again to eliminate any issues DBE had.

:edit: Nevermind got it to work.


I just rescanned on sky irish found it downloaded it db edit and moved it into sports seems ok

I think once AutoBouquetsMaker does it's next scan it will remove the Setanta channels that you added and you'd have to re-add it, it would be nice if were part of AutoBouqetsMaker for all regions.

DeGea468
16-12-12, 03:19
I think it takes so long to download to DBE because the channel numbering/placeholders is HUGE.. 'all channels' which is the 1st bouquets goes all the way up to 65534 (it's usually 999) before the 2nd bouquets even starts.. Altogether the channel numbering/placeholders go all the way up to 68997 in the TV bouquets, The Radio Bouquets numbering/placeholders go up to 4004. It takes forever to load certain bouquets in DBE because there are so many placeholders.

In the 'all channels' bouquets the placeholders start at 1 and the TV channels start at 101 and end at 999 with placeholders in between channels to get the sky numbering but then the placeholders continue all the way to 65533 with 65534 being a 'Sky Sports Interactive 1473' channel. The Radio placeholders start at 1 and goes all the way up to 3100, The radio stations (SkyUK) start at 3101 and end at 3214... for the radio stations for FreeSat the placeholders start at 3215 and go all the way up to 3913 then the FreeSat radio stations start at 3914 and end at 4004.. This can't be right?

There are roughly just over 1000 skyuk channels but there are over 67000 placeholders.

Is anyone else with 'All channels' experiencing this?

pr1s0m
16-12-12, 03:38
Every one I think but not sure if this is a bug or by design

I know there is a bug with interactive channels so hopefully it's a bug as it slows down opening the graphical epg too

Dave-H
16-12-12, 05:02
How do i uninstall this plugin?

Rob van der Does
16-12-12, 05:06
How do i uninstall this plugin?
The same way as all plugins: PluginBrowser --> Red.

Be aware that (as this plugin is part of the image) it will be re-installed during an online image backup.

Dave-H
16-12-12, 05:08
Thanks, was looking in extensions rather than system plugins which explains why I couldn't find it :banghead:

paul362
16-12-12, 09:10
Nice work:thumbsup::thumbsup::D

rob45
16-12-12, 11:38
thanks for all your hard work its a good plugin works well.

Wizard55
16-12-12, 13:39
Hi,

Where is itv 1 to 4 hd located . Have set freeview as London hd. I have a uk card in slot.

Thanks for all the hard work, really fast plugin ...

DeGea468
16-12-12, 14:27
Every one I think but not sure if this is a bug or by design

I know there is a bug with interactive channels so hopefully it's a bug as it slows down opening the graphical epg too

Yes i get this also.

marty
16-12-12, 14:31
can you add "west midlands" to the auto bouquet maker

West side is the best side :D :p

garyblas
16-12-12, 15:39
If i want to download as a plugin what is name of plugin as several are listed

marty
16-12-12, 16:21
If i want to download as a plugin what is name of plugin as several are listed

It is built into the VIX image since build 516 :) no need to download ;)

stevesom
16-12-12, 17:19
That looks very good,well done great job although i use my own bouquet,im tempted to use it.

XabiX
16-12-12, 17:26
Any plan to support the Astra 19,2 bouquets?

Will check if available on my my quad

Larry-G
16-12-12, 17:29
Any plan to support the Astra 19,2 bouquets?

Will check if available on my my quad


There is already support included for 19.2 east. This plugin currently supports the following providers.

AustriaSat 19.2 East
Canal Digitaal HD 19.2 East
Canal Digitaal SD 19.2 East
Czech Republic 23.5 East
Freesat 28.2 & 28.5 East
Mobistar FR 19.2 East
Mobistar NL 19.2 East
SKY Italy 13.0 East
Sky UK 28.2 & 28.5 East
Slovak Republic 23.5 East
TéléSATHD 19.2 East
TéléSAT SD 19.2 East
TVSat 13.0 East
TV Vlaanderen HD 19.2 East
TV Vlaanderen SD 19.2 East

Wizard55
16-12-12, 18:53
If I create a favourites list will this be overwritten when the image updates. Where is channel 5 hd, itv hd also.

Great job guys rely fast ...:thumbsup:

abu baniaz
16-12-12, 19:14
If I create a favourites list will this be overwritten when the image updates. Where is channel 5 hd, itv hd also.

Great job guys rely fast ...:thumbsup:

It doesn't touch existing bouquets

pathfinder
16-12-12, 20:46
This is a great addition. Well done and thanks.

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madaboutlotus
16-12-12, 21:19
Do you have to complete a software update to see it as it is not in my listing?

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

garyblas
16-12-12, 21:24
It is built into the VIX image since build 516 :) no need to download ;)

Yes but im happy with my current build and dont want to upgrade, so does anyone know which plugin its called?

twol
16-12-12, 21:29
It doesn't touch existing bouquets

It just moves them into infinity:)

abu baniaz
16-12-12, 21:30
It was from build 514.

ipk here if you must http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?24095-VIX-Image-Online-update-to-build-514-fantastic-new-feature&p=179698&viewfull=1#post179698

judge
16-12-12, 21:31
Yes but im happy with my current build and dont want to upgrade, so does anyone know which plugin its called?

If you don't want to update, how do you expect to get/use new image features?

twol
16-12-12, 21:32
There is already support included for 19.2 east. This plugin currently supports the following providers.

AustriaSat 19.2 East
Canal Digitaal HD 19.2 East
Canal Digitaal SD 19.2 East
Czech Republic 23.5 East
Freesat 28.2 & 28.5 East
Mobistar FR 19.2 East
Mobistar NL 19.2 East
SKY Italy 13.0 East
Sky UK 28.2 & 28.5 East
Slovak Republic 23.5 East
TéléSATHD 19.2 East
TéléSAT SD 19.2 East
TVSat 13.0 East
TV Vlaanderen HD 19.2 East
TV Vlaanderen SD 19.2 East
Some support for 19.2E, just not the 300+ German stations:)

Larry-G
16-12-12, 21:54
as far as i recall sky Germany uses a method which is not compatible with this plugin at present.

Rob van der Does
16-12-12, 22:06
Some support for 19.2E, just not the 300+ German stations:)
We have done a very thorough search for info about German (Sky) channels. So far we found nothing. If you can provide us the info, we might be able to add (Sky)Germany to this plugin.

afc_rich
16-12-12, 23:49
In reply to others and my previous post....

If you add the Setanta channels to the Sports section manually they are removed as soon as the plugin rescans. Ideally, these channels being added to all regions would only be of benefit to people.

I have also noticed that there are quite a few Sky box office channels missing, so to have the complete set would be fantastic.

Has there been any thoughts on prefixing the channel names with the coresponding Sky channel numbers?

Thanks

s31teg
17-12-12, 00:07
this is great, thanks allot, great work!

judge
17-12-12, 00:11
Why not copy Setanta & any other channels you want that are not in your chosen locations scan to your own custom bouquet?
Next update should fix sky interactive channels.

afc_rich
17-12-12, 01:07
Thanks for the workaround judge. I have created a custom bouquet containing the Setanta channels along with the full set of Box Office channels. Top tip for anyone else with these requirements.

94941
17-12-12, 03:03
Sorry for the newb question.
Does this mean, I no longer need to update my "Mr Mister" Bouquet on my duo?
I can use this as a replacement and it auto updates itself, as far as new channels and also any frequency changes ?

Larry-G
17-12-12, 03:58
Sorry for the newb question.
Does this mean, I no longer need to update my "Mr Mister" Bouquet on my duo?
I can use this as a replacement and it auto updates itself, as far as new channels and also any frequency changes ?

pretty much yes.

twol
17-12-12, 08:59
We have done a very thorough search for info about German (Sky) channels. So far we found nothing. If you can provide us the info, we might be able to add (Sky)Germany to this plugin.

Thanks Rob and Phoenix, but where do you pick up info for the other countries, eg UK and NL is there a particular type of file you are looking for or WEB site? Its a serious question, just need to know what type of information I am looking for that could help solve the problem - I have a German family friend that loves little projects like this, so maybe I can wind him up to go looking :)
Solving this would be a big help to me in using the plugin ... and a timesaver

Rob van der Does
17-12-12, 09:07
1- First of all we were aware that those providers provide STB's that are capable of updating the 'official' channel list. We still don't know this about German providers. Knowing that we went to
2- look into the data transmitted by the transponders to see if we could find and decipher data providing that kind of info. Once we were able to use the data we went to
3- look for information published by those providers about their channellists, so we could compare our results with the official lists.

So that's pretty much what should be done for any provider we want to add to AutoBouquetMaker (plus of course a huge amount of time to investigate and to adapt the plugin).

stumpey
17-12-12, 09:08
This is a great move forward now I am used to the new layout and configurations I will never go back :)

All we need now is an automatic update for picons and I will never have to use Filezilla or DreamEdit again :)

Thanks for all your hard work

Stumpey

Rob van der Does
17-12-12, 09:11
All we need now is an automatic update for picons and I will never have to use Filezilla or DreamEdit again :)
I use picons from the feeds, so I never have to update them manually.

stumpey
17-12-12, 09:42
Good call forgot about them.... job for when I get home :)

Any particular set ?

Stumpey

Rob van der Does
17-12-12, 11:16
Good call forgot about them.... job for when I get home :)
Any particular set ?
Well, that really depends on your taste. My absolute favourite is the tv-ocram.hd.transparant.

kunmun23
17-12-12, 11:24
Congrats ViX team on yet another beautiful feature to an already SOLID image.

Couple of quick questions :

1. ABP News (which was Star News till sometime back) is an Asian news channel, which seems to have gone missing in the Autobouquet scan. How can I add it back in ?

2. I always prefer to keep a sub-set of my favorite channels. After running the Autobouquet, I downloaded the bouquets using Dreamboxedit 5.1.0.1 (latest version), got some duplicacy errors but otherwise everything went fine. I added "My favorites" folder (the built-in favorites is used by other family members) and added my channels to it and uploaded it back. Everything running perfectly fine....my question is, if I do a rescan using Autobouquet, do I need to recreate or update "my favorites" folder?

kunmun23
17-12-12, 11:26
[MOVED] : To a new thread HERE (http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?24271-How-to-use-picons-from-feeds&p=180433#post180433)



I use picons from the feeds, so I never have to update them manually.

Can you point me to how to set this up? Can I specify the path of picons folder as well (point to USB) ? Am missing a few picons for a new set of channels : UMP Movies, UMP Stars.

Rob van der Does
17-12-12, 11:31
This is going way off-topic: please ask new questions in a new thread.

kunmun23
17-12-12, 11:41
Apologies....moved to a new thread HERE (http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?24271-How-to-use-picons-from-feeds&p=180433#post180433)


This is going way off-topic: please ask new questions in a new thread.

stingray13
17-12-12, 14:04
Good Afternoon,

Is there any chance at the next version we will get the irish sports channels on ALL bouquets as the space is there for them? to be added like on the original auto bouquets? and fixing the missing SBO / BBC / Sport Interactive Channels?
A great start and lighting fast,

Thanks Again

twol
17-12-12, 14:05
1- First of all we were aware that those providers provide STB's that are capable of updating the 'official' channel list. We still don't know this about German providers. Knowing that we went to
2- look into the data transmitted by the transponders to see if we could find and decipher data providing that kind of info. Once we were able to use the data we went to
3- look for information published by those providers about their channellists, so we could compare our results with the official lists.

So that's pretty much what should be done for any provider we want to add to AutoBouquetMaker (plus of course a huge amount of time to investigate and to adapt the plugin).
Thanks Rob for your response, I guess I can start to understand the difficulties for Germany, where there is no total channel packaging such as Freesat or Sky(UK).
Even on the Sky (Deutschland) receiver only the Sky channels are in a defined sequence, the rest (and mostly frequently accessed by Germans) are user programmed into 1->99...... then you have the 16? HD+ channels which use the same encryption but that is about the only connection.

Although the 2 Sky EPG's look different, I guess Sky (Deutschland) uses similar transmissions which can be picked up a la Sky UK - perhaps? ..... but it still wouldn't give you a list of ALL German stations only Sky.

Will think and discuss

Silent
17-12-12, 17:58
Why not copy Setanta & any other channels you want that are not in your chosen locations scan to your own custom bouquet?
Next update should fix sky interactive channels.

Because it's not as tidy as the AutoBouquet plugin which puts it in Sport where it belongs :). I'm sure the new plugin is great, but I'm happy using AutoBouquet at the moment which also incorporates the Irish channels.

Why not at the end of the day? It's not like the new plugin separates ESPN, Chelsea TV or any other 'bolt on' channels which people may or not have access too, it includes them all regardless.

Larry-G
17-12-12, 18:04
Because it's not as tidy as the AutoBouquet plugin which puts it in Sport where it belongs :). I'm sure the new plugin is great, but I'm happy using AutoBouquet at the moment which also incorporates the Irish channels.

Why not at the end of the day? It's not like the new plugin separates ESPN, Chelsea TV or any other 'bolt on' channels which people may or not have access too, it includes them all regardless.


Your more than welcome to use any method you choose to sort your channels, but the OE-Alliance ABM generates bouquets true to the region specified by the user in their setup. at present it's doing exactly what it's designed to do, setanta is not even a UK channel and as such is not on the uk sky channel line up.

Silent
17-12-12, 18:09
Fair enough

Rob van der Does
17-12-12, 18:23
Your more than welcome to use any method you choose to sort your channels, but the OE-Alliance ABM generates bouquets true to the region specified by the user in their setup. at present it's doing exactly what it's designed to do, setanta is not even a UK channel and as such is not on the uk sky channel line up.
And that's exactly the beauty of this plugin: it leaves any other bouquets in place. So now on top of my 'normal' lists I have an amount of ABM created ones.

Larry-G
17-12-12, 18:29
And that's exactly the beauty of this plugin: it leaves any other bouquets in place. So now on top of my 'normal' lists I have an amount of ABM created ones.


yes same here. the channels i need that are not part of the sky uk lineup are in their own custom bouquet, all the rest are auto updated every morning by ABM, i even set my brothers receiver up like this and he's over joyed as he's a total technophobe who cant operate a toaster without it blowing up in his face.

warajoker
17-12-12, 18:55
sky sports interative channels need adding

AutoBouquetMaker released!

After a period of intensive testing ViX has released their new AutoBouquetMaker, included in all images from build 514. This unique functionality creates bouquets for a number of major providers, where the user has a lot of influence on the layout. Easy to use and very fast running, with an option for regular automated scans.

For this we have to thank Andy Blacburn & Sandro Cavazzoni who have spent a lot of time to create this fabulous feature.

Stanman
17-12-12, 19:44
sky sports interative channels need adding
We know mate, Andy is trying to fix them.

Larry-G
17-12-12, 19:52
sky sports interative channels need adding

They should be fixed for the nest update.

PhilB
17-12-12, 20:14
Hi all

I seem to be having a little problem my box and ABM (xtrend 9200 5.14) seems to hang during the "bouquets generation" and I get the spinning ViX in the top right and jams, I have tried reinstalling the image.

any help would be great

Thank you

Stanman
17-12-12, 20:15
Do you have twin feeds into the nox or one set up as loopthrough or same? if the later try disabling the tuner and than scanning

PhilB
17-12-12, 20:55
Hi

yes its a dual tuner with 2 separate inputs, both tuners set to 'simple' '28.2', i have tried setting tuner B to 'not configured' but still hangs, anything else I can try

Thanks in advance

warajoker
17-12-12, 21:26
it will go after around 5-10 minutes.it happens to me sometimes
Hi all

I seem to be having a little problem my box and ABM (xtrend 9200 5.14) seems to hang during the "bouquets generation" and I get the spinning ViX in the top right and jams, I have tried reinstalling the image.

any help would be great

Thank you

PhilB
17-12-12, 21:32
I think I may have found the problem, if I have anything ticked in the 'Hide Section' it hangs, if I untick all the boxes it goes straight through

any ideas why?

Thank you

warajoker
17-12-12, 21:45
thats right. thats what happen to me. just give it time and it will sort it self out. roughley 5-10 mins
I think I may have found the problem, if I have anything ticked in the 'Hide Section' it hangs, if I untick all the boxes it goes straight through

any ideas why?

Thank you

s31teg
18-12-12, 20:34
i have noticed on my ultimo when i press epg, its takes a while to open the epg (about 5 secs)

the vix logo spins first if thats any help


....

johnty
18-12-12, 21:58
Hi, I am really new to this. Can someone tell me how to uninstall autobouquets because it may be having an adverse effect on my new autobouquetmaker. Also I seem to be frequently losing my chanel guides, some appear but for only a short timescale so you cannot check on programs a few hours in advance.

Stanman
18-12-12, 21:59
If you download from the feeds Menu>Plugins>remove plugins >extensions

johnty
18-12-12, 22:19
Thaks for that.It appears that my menu problem is cured when I update crossepg and yet it is set to auto @ 4.00am so not sure why it is not updating?

crepsidro
20-12-12, 19:44
Not working for me at all. I do not have Astra 1F coverage, and it starts from it. And just 'Timeout for tuner lock'.
Fix please. Thanks

crepsidro
20-12-12, 20:22
astra 2F sorry

johnty
20-12-12, 21:26
Still having problems with crossepg not updating correctly. The autobouquetmaker has its own updating system so why use crossepg at all?

Stanman
20-12-12, 21:38
astra 2F sorry

Try disabling your other tuners and see if that fixes it for you

Rob van der Does
20-12-12, 22:32
Still having problems with crossepg not updating correctly. The autobouquetmaker has its own updating system so why use crossepg at all?
The two have nothing in common: ABM is for updating channels, Cross is updating EPG.

crepsidro
20-12-12, 23:42
Try disabling your other tuners and see if that fixes it for you

sorry, what other tuners? i have UNO

Larry-G
20-12-12, 23:49
as said above CrossEPG and ABM are totally different entities and in no way influence each other, try deleting your EPG.dat file ( kill enigma first via a telnet session ). then download the EPG again. I personally have CrossEPG / OpenTV and ABM running perfectly fine together on 6 different receivers.

crepsidro
21-12-12, 01:59
Not working for me =(

Rob van der Does
21-12-12, 06:52
Not working for me =(
This is about ABM?
As we have dozens of testboxes all using ABM & Cross & ....... without any problems, you'll have to tell us a bit more to be able to help.
First of all: is your box on build 534? If not, it should be the first step to upgrade.
Be aware: if you didn't do so before: if your present build is <build 521 your box requires a flash.

crepsidro
21-12-12, 14:15
Yes, ABM.
Yes, latest build, single tuner (tried simple, advanced config). I do not have 2F coverage at all - no lower transponders. But it looks like ABM wants to start with these, cannot see any signal (sits at 'scanning, found 0') and aborts with 'tuner timeout' msg.

Thanks

judge
21-12-12, 14:44
Yes, ABM.
Yes, latest build, single tuner (tried simple, advanced config). I do not have 2F coverage at all - no lower transponders. But it looks like ABM wants to start with these, cannot see any signal (sits at 'scanning, found 0') and aborts with 'tuner timeout' msg.

Thanks
Can you tune to BBC1 HD & try the ABM scan again?
No problems here for ROI scans.
How have you your tuner setup?

crepsidro
21-12-12, 14:54
No, cannot get that TP either. Can get any other tp's tho (i use 12480v with roi e4/c4 most frequently). But i ran ABM numerous times, while tuned to working channels, only to get same msg.
I know, i know. Why the heck you want this as you don't have lower tp's? Why? I don't watch bbc and itv, but i watch almost every other channel without any problems. And, mind, it's only 5 first channels in epg lineup (bbc1/2/itv/c4/c5) i can't get...

And what you mean by 'tuner setup'? It's in simple more, single sat. Any more settings needed?

judge
21-12-12, 15:00
sounds like your dish might need readjusting.

crepsidro
21-12-12, 15:04
Are you slightly.... ? I am thousands miles away from footprint, and i use 2.5m dish.

Perhaps for now it should be noted, that ABM cannot function without 100% sat coverage? As i have 95% and it cannot do it's thing.

judge
21-12-12, 15:06
Are you slightly.... ?
???



I am thousands miles away from footprint, and i use 2.5m dish. Should i 'adjust' it? To achieve what exactly?
Sorry, I presumed you were in Ireland & that's why you wanted a ROI scan.

crepsidro
21-12-12, 15:12
I'm irish and working around southern russia... Sorry, just a bit frustrated by blatant non-understanding... Sorry.

Larry-G
21-12-12, 15:15
Are you slightly.... ? I am thousands miles away from footprint, and i use 2.5m dish. Have you ever had one? Or you think, that 60cm plastic 'ear' that used in uk/roi is a pinnacle of engineering (and implying, that anybody, who is a bit far and UNABLE to get 2f beams, is inferior? are you racist?)?
Should i 'adjust' it? To achieve what exactly?

Perhaps for now it should be noted, that ABM cannot function without 100% sat coverage? As i have 95% and it cannot do it's thing.

I suggest you walk away from this forum and calm down otherwise i will ban you. we are trying to help you and your not doing your self any favors.

simply put if your outside the operational footprint of 2F dont use ABM for 28.2 east as it wont work.

judge
21-12-12, 15:21
Are you slightly.... ? I am thousands miles away from footprint, and i use 2.5m dish. Have you ever had one? Or you think, that 60cm plastic 'ear' that used in uk/roi is a pinnacle of engineering (and implying, that anybody, who is a bit far and UNABLE to get 2f beams, is inferior? are you racist?)?
Should i 'adjust' it? To achieve what exactly?

Perhaps for now it should be noted, that ABM cannot function without 100% sat coverage? As i have 95% and it cannot do it's thing.
I see you edited your post after I replied.
racist, no idea how you came to that conclusion????
Get a grip & do as pheonix suggests.

twol
21-12-12, 15:29
I'm irish and working around southern russia... Sorry, just a bit frustrated by blatant non-understanding... Sorry.

As you are never going to be able to pick up the UK spot beam transponders on 2F and you want to use an autobouquet then go to Lraizer's earlier version that will still work.

crepsidro
21-12-12, 15:43
Yes, thanks! That's useful - will search 'Lraizer'.
I just have problem in my life with 'assumptions'... Such as ABM 'assumes' i have full coverage. judge 'assumed' i'm in roi, without me mentioning it directly... I've been subtle trying to hint that i'm not around (and not getting 2F is a pretty good indication)...
Really sorry for any offence caused, it's just out of pure frustration, and not getting straight answers. Now i have it - ABM's just not for my setup, so i will looks for other options (although all i need is preset roi bouqette - mr.mister's is more uk).
Sorry again, i'll behave. And thanks for pointing 2F requirement out - this saves me time hitting my head on the wall trying to get it working ;)

Larry-G
21-12-12, 15:51
Yes, thanks! That's useful - will search 'Lraizer'.
I just have problem in my life with 'assumptions'... Such as ABM 'assumes' i have full coverage. judge 'assumed' i'm in roi, without me mentioning it directly... I've been subtle trying to hint that i'm not around (and not getting 2F is a pretty good indication)...
Really sorry for any offence caused, it's just out of pure frustration, and not getting straight answers. Now i have it - ABM's just not for my setup, so i will looks for other options (although all i need is preset roi bouqette - mr.mister's is more uk).
Sorry again, i'll behave. And thanks for pointing 2F requirement out - this saves me time hitting my head on the wall trying to get it working ;)

The simplest thing to do when reporting a bug or looking for help is to provide as much information as possible, any thing you think we would need to know and more. you have to remember that we are not psychic and that this is a UK / EU based forum and as such we will always assume that you are within the footprint of the satellite your trying to receive unless you tell us otherwise.

crepsidro
21-12-12, 15:52
I thought i said that i can't get 2F at page 11 :) That's why i got so frustrated at page 13 ;)

By the way. My original slybox is unable to perfectly get that sly default TP - 11778 every time. And for a long time i thought it's the only one bearing channel lineup data. It's not only one. I experimented with slybox and changing default (startup) TP to e.g. 11604V or 11817V gets channels loaded, lined up, and epg'd as good as 11778. But not all tp's bearing this data. Perhaps there's a way to hardcode/edit this default tp value for ABM (wondering from which particular TP it wants to load bouquette). That info can be useful and i'm not afraid of modding.
Thanks

Rob van der Does
21-12-12, 18:04
Be advised that in a 130 post thread most info is not being remembered. If you have a specific problem, you should raise a specific thread, and not grumble in a 'general news' item.

twol
22-12-12, 11:58
I thought i said that i can't get 2F at page 11 :) That's why i got so frustrated at page 13 ;)


As most of these guys are in the UK, they probably know that they receive signals from 28.2E, but which Astra satellite (1D, 2B, 2F or in future 2E) is probably not in many people's vocabulary :)

warajoker
24-12-12, 18:34
can you please add "West Midlands" into the UK areas/providers

johnty
25-12-12, 00:33
I have West Midlands BBC1 as my first channel using autobouquetmaker. What I do not have is channel numbering?

Larry-G
25-12-12, 00:42
I have West Midlands BBC1 as my first channel using autobouquetmaker. What I do not have is channel numbering?

do you have the regions set for both freesat and sky uk ?. as both are needed to pull in the channels and retain correct numeration.

johnty
25-12-12, 10:47
Merry Christmas. Yes I have both set.

im85288
26-12-12, 00:18
Does anyone know if the bouquets generated by this plugin should be available on another box via the remote stream converter plugin? I tried it today a few times, but the remote box only found radio bouquets..once I put a custom bouquet back on (such as mister mister etc) then the remote box found this bouquet..so for me at least these auto generated bouquets are not compatible with the remote stream converter plugin

Rob van der Does
26-12-12, 07:18
Does anyone know if the bouquets generated by this plugin should be available on another box via the remote stream converter plugin?
Hmmm, you're right: it doesn't work.
This must have creeped in on one of the latest versions, as I did use it before (during the test-phase of the plugin) and then it worked fine.

boogie
26-12-12, 22:34
lads,
im doing something wrong.
after setting up as required for my area(inc both sly and fta bouquets) and hitting scan
the bar fill to just under half way then I get error message TIMEOUT FOR TUNER LOCK
any ideas?
original vu duo latest vix installed

boogie
26-12-12, 22:36
totally fresh install btw
(no setting/image resotre during initial setup)
cheers

abu baniaz
26-12-12, 23:19
Have you double checked your tuners are set correctly and are not occupied with a recording?

Stanman
26-12-12, 23:32
lads,
im doing something wrong.
after setting up as required for my area(inc both sly and fta bouquets) and hitting scan
the bar fill to just under half way then I get error message TIMEOUT FOR TUNER LOCK
any ideas?
original vu duo latest vix installed


Do you have two cables connected or loopthrough?

If latter try disabling loopthrough and try again.

Also what version of the image are you on, as good idea to update to latest.

boogie
26-12-12, 23:34
Have you double checked your tuners are set correctly and are not occupied with a recording?

hi really appreciate the reply.
not sure how to check tuners so please advise if you have a second.it would be appreciated.
no no recordings occurring.
I was watching sshd1 and it clearly says in the autobouquets description that if the other tuner is occupied it would use the first tuner.
and in the case of single tuner that it would skip to the scanner for a few minutes so to do it in a commercial break.
I tried to switch to the other tuenr but it seems to be blank.
maybe this is confusing the plugin

THANKS for your help thus far

HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE!

Stanman
26-12-12, 23:35
Menu>setup>services>tuner configuration

boogie
26-12-12, 23:37
Do you have two cables connected or loopthrough?

If latter try disabling loopthrough and try again.

Also what version of the image are you on, as good idea to update to latest.

latest build mate.
no loopthrough not enabled on either tuner afaics.
thanks for your help.its appreciated greatly

I must be doing something wrong but not sure how to fix.leaning towards the second tuner not working(for what ever reason) and thius confusing the plugin.
bloody love the vix image.best image ive ever used on any box bar none.

Stanman
26-12-12, 23:38
Do you have two cables?

if not follow the post either way above yours and disable second tuner

boogie
26-12-12, 23:42
Do you have two cables?

if not follow the post either way above yours and disable second tuner

THAR SHE BLOWS!!!!!!!!
clearly the second tuner not getting feed(****ed wire maybe?)so was confusing plugin which must have wanted to switch to it as I was watching tuner A.

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! absolute legend.cheers again

Stanman
26-12-12, 23:51
When you get time, have a look at the F connector especially if its the sly dual cable as f connectors have a habit IME of working lose, might just need to tighten it up.

You can also disable the first tuner and go into satfinder to see if there is a signal coming down, if not than its either connections either end or the cable.

antochia
28-12-12, 20:44
the plugin resolve all problems about multi-channel trasponder because take the right one; in fact some channels are presents on more tp but only one is correct to wacth. thanks

abu baniaz
29-12-12, 18:46
Yippee!!
Dbedit 5.1.1.0 receives the settings. Still with errors though. No joy with Dreamset still.

EDIT: Dreamset will open the bouquets from a saved file once received and saved with DBedit.

digidude
31-12-12, 11:26
ive installed this on numerous receivers using lots of different images, and while it will install, and allow me to set up everything, when it comes to actually running the scan, the menus are disabled and only the 'About' screen is selectable. Could this 'block' be removed?

judge
31-12-12, 11:35
ive installed this on numerous receivers using lots of different images, and while it will install, and allow me to set up everything, when it comes to actually running the scan, the menus are disabled and only the 'About' screen is selectable. Could this 'block' be removed?

There is no block in the code, it's opensource & available on the git server.
If it doesn't work on other images, maybe point them in the direction of the code & ask them to have a look?

Larry-G
31-12-12, 11:40
ive installed this on numerous receivers using lots of different images, and while it will install, and allow me to set up everything, when it comes to actually running the scan, the menus are disabled and only the 'About' screen is selectable. Could this 'block' be removed?

i already told you contrary to your beliefs there is no code in the plugin to block it from working on any image.

Rob van der Does
31-12-12, 12:17
l...... the menus are disabled and only the 'About' screen is selectable. Could this 'block' be removed?
Hehe, the very idea of 'a block' :rolleyes:

digidude
31-12-12, 13:38
i already told you contrary to your beliefs there is no code in the plugin to block it from working on any image.


Hehe, the very idea of 'a block' :rolleyes:

the subject has been approached a few times in different threads across a few forums, but, the answer has always either been riddles, or completley ignored, so i thought id ask straight.

Ive installed the .py files on numerous receivers using numerous images, and anything thats NOT the ViX image, out of everything ive tried, will only allow you to select the about screen, which stops you from running the plugin on any other image, but still allows you to see the screen saying where its come from

garyblas
31-12-12, 14:13
Question: If want to try auto bouquet but am currently very happy with my own. If i load auto bouquet i assume it will duplicate many of my own as i have multiple bouquets enabled?
Can i mix and match some channels?
Can i delete channels i dont want?
Is this compatible with DBEdit?

judge
31-12-12, 14:22
the subject has been approached a few times in different threads across a few forums, but, the answer has always either been riddles, or completley ignored, so i thought id ask straight.


where? i'd love to see those riddles.
sounds like you just need to add screens to the skin of the image you're using, but I can't be sure as I don't use them.

jaylar
31-12-12, 14:35
I been having problems where for instance movies its giving the wrong info for what's on. I press ok it and its a differrent movie .

mcquaim
31-12-12, 15:04
I been having problems where for instance movies its giving the wrong info for what's on. I press ok it and its a differrent movie .

That won't have anything to do with ABM, that info comes from your EPG data. Where ever you are pulling this from must be incorrect for that channel or a schedule change has been made since you last downloaded your EPG data..

Rob van der Does
31-12-12, 15:09
That won't have anything to do with ABM, that info comes from your EPG data. Where ever you are pulling this from must be incorrect for that channel or a schedule change has been made since you last downloaded your EPG data..
Indeed, and on pressing OK the Now/Next data from the transponder is being displayed instead of the data stored by the box.

jaylar
31-12-12, 15:32
Sorry mate your correct using cross epg will have a look cheers

chewy78
01-01-13, 12:42
i have noticed on my ultimo when i press epg, its takes a while to open the epg (about 5 secs)

the vix logo spins first if thats any help

....


Hi,
did you get anywhere with this, I have the same problem when I user ABM. Cheers

judge
01-01-13, 12:51
Hi,
did you get anywhere with this, I have the same problem when I user ABM. Cheers

are you entering the 'all channels' bouquet?

twol
01-01-13, 15:40
Question: If want to try auto bouquet but am currently very happy with my own. If i load auto bouquet i assume it will duplicate many of my own as i have multiple bouquets enabled?
Can i mix and match some channels?
Can i delete channels i dont want?
Is this compatible with DBEdit?
As far as I know (not having used it for some while), it will always add in autobouquet's own bouquets - ypurs will be shunted to the end. Also due to the implementation, autobouquet is not really compatible with any of the "standard" bouquet editors.

Larry-G
01-01-13, 15:59
As far as I know (not having used it for some while), it will always add in autobouquet's own bouquets - ypurs will be shunted to the end. Also due to the implementation, autobouquet is not really compatible with any of the "standard" bouquet editors.

The newest version of DBE v 5.1.1.1 works with ABM.

stu_iow
02-01-13, 18:13
any chance of getting channel numbers added to this built in plugin - as was the case in latter versions of the original plugin?

Larry-G
02-01-13, 18:50
any chance of getting channel numbers added to this built in plugin - as was the case in latter versions of the original plugin?

The channel numbers are there by default, you just have to activate them.

stu_iow
02-01-13, 18:52
I went through the menu screens for such an option but couldn't find it.
Where is it located?


Many thanks
Stuart

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3 using Tapatalk 2.

Larry-G
02-01-13, 18:57
I went through the menu screens for such an option but couldn't find it.
Where is it located?


Many thanks
Stuart

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3 using Tapatalk 2.

pull up your channel list with the up or down button. then press menu and go from there, you should see a option to enable channel numbers ( or something to that affect, i cant remember the exact name and i'm at work so no way to verify ).

chewy78
02-01-13, 19:31
are you entering the 'all channels' bouquet?

No it seems to happen on any bouquet, had 'old'autobouquet installed before and thought that might be causing the problem but can't find anything to remove ie menu>plugins>remove plugins and nothing there.

Larry-G
02-01-13, 19:41
No it seems to happen on any bouquet, had 'old'autobouquet installed before and thought that might be causing the problem but can't find anything to remove ie menu>plugins>remove plugins and nothing there.

It could very well be possible that There not playing nicely with each other. I would try a fresh flash then go from there and see if your still having the problem.

It was also recommended that users perform a fresh flash after build 519, if you did a online update from a a build earlier than 519, that too could cause problems.

dymebox
04-01-13, 11:44
Great feature and has been working great for me.

I understand that Setanta etc are not part of the UK Sly line up, but how about an option to enable non-region specific channels such as Setanta to the bouquets?

Stanman
04-01-13, 15:51
You can't as it captures the data from the stream, what you can do is manually add the setenta channels to the sports bouquet

Mr. Mister
04-01-13, 16:00
What you can do is add a set of my bouquets to your box..

Delete all bouquets apart from the NI and Rep Varations..

Then run the auto bouquet maker..

Now the Setanta channels will in the the Irish Varations..

Very simple..

Ill pull a set from my box later today.. and post them up for you guys..

rikesh
06-01-13, 15:42
Trying but I can't seem to get this right.

Here is what I did:

1. Use iDreamX (Mac version of DBEdit) to remove all existing bouquets except the Northern Ireland variations
2. Run AutoBouquetMaker with appropriate regional settings and HD swap

But the outcome isn't what I expected. Setanta channels remain in the NI bouquet - but with channel numbers 2027, 2028 (and not 423, 424). The same outcome occurs when I remove all bouquets and simply transfer the 'All New Vix 28.2 East Bouquets' uploaded by Mr. Mister on 04-01-2013.

What I want is the plugin to produce and regularly update bouquets containing the Setanta channels in their correct place. In other words, bouquets that match the old Mr. Mister 28.2E HD swap bouquets as closely as possible.

Thanks for your help with this.

dean_m
07-01-13, 22:00
Im using autobouquetMaker on the latest build of vix but all the itv channels seem to be missing i have also looked in the fta bouquet aswel as the rest notting there any help appreciated

Larry-G
07-01-13, 22:09
Im using autobouquetMaker on the latest build of vix but all the itv channels seem to be missing i have also looked in the fta bouquet aswel as the rest notting there any help appreciated

by all ITV channels what do you mean ? because they are all there on mine, including the other regional channels which are in their own section.

dean_m
07-01-13, 22:15
All the itv1 itv2 etc.. there not in any of the bouquets would it be a setting in autobouquetmaker i have ROI choosen in the settings

judge
07-01-13, 22:18
All the itv1 itv2 etc.. there not in any of the bouquets would it be a setting in autobouquetmaker i have ROI choosen in the settings

ITV isn't included in ROI Sky listings.
Run a London scan, create a custom bouquet, add your ITV variations to it, then run a ROI scan again.

dean_m
07-01-13, 22:28
If i use the new Mr.mister bouquets will autobouquetmaker keep them up to date or will i have to manually update them

Larry-G
07-01-13, 22:35
ABM wont touch any preexisting bouquets you have on the receiver, those you would have to update and maintain your self.

dean_m
08-01-13, 00:03
I did a scan with abm on london hd and added Mr. Mister new bouquets which put in irish variations next time abm does a scheduled scan will it update london hd boquet without overwriting irish variations so i can just maintain the irish list with the latest mr. mister bouquets ?

Stanman
08-01-13, 00:09
It will only update the bouquets that ABM created, everything else will be left untouched.

If you move channels into the ABM bouquets, they will be removed on the next scan

dean_m
08-01-13, 00:32
Now that i have irish variations bouquet added the numbering is messed up is there anyway to fix this many stations have the same channel number.

judge
08-01-13, 00:37
Now that i have irish variations bouquet added the numbering is messed up is there anyway to fix this many stations have the same channel number.

Doesn't mess up channel numbering here, can you post screenshots of your ABM settings?

dean_m
08-01-13, 00:55
Not sure how to take a screenshot on the image ? The channel numbering for the abm bouquet is fine but the numbering for the irish variations are showing up as the same can i change that ?

judge
08-01-13, 01:00
Not sure how to take a screenshot on the image ? The channel numbering for the abm bouquet is fine but the numbering for the irish variations are showing up as the same can i change that ?

Great tutorial on how to take a screenshot here (http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?12554-Tutorial-How-to-make-a-screenshot-dump-from-your-satellite-receiver&p=90834&viewfull=1#post90834).

dean_m
08-01-13, 01:41
Thanks for that here is screenshots of my abm settings and problem
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bokkie
08-01-13, 11:14
Hi all. I'm using auto bouquet on my new vu+ solo2 and am experiencing some problems.
For the second morning running it hasn't updated, but thrown up an error instead. Timeout for tuner lock.
I am running the latest vix and have tuner a connected to my motorieed dish and tuner b to my static sly dish.
Now there is a problem where the snr and agc are showing incorrect values, not sure if this is a driver or image fault, but it's only giviing 70% snr and 45% agc. I know these are incorrect readings as my old duo shows 90%
And when I go into sat finder it shows as locked anyway. Any ideas?

alien2108
09-01-13, 11:42
I can't seem to find a setting that would enable me to get all channels but the ones that are only available in UK/Ireland itself (geographically). Is there an option to create all channels but the ones on Astra 1N and 2F (skip Freq < 11222.17) that only serve that geo location?

twol
09-01-13, 13:00
I can't seem to find a setting that would enable me to get all channels but the ones that are only available in UK/Ireland itself (geographically). Is there an option to create all channels but the ones on Astra 1N and 2F (skip Freq < 11222.17) that only serve that geo location?

Not that I am aware of..... and if you have problems with 2F then I guess you are outside UK, and with the move of 2A to 2F you are likely to see more problems which are not going to be fixed by a bouquet tweak :)

alien2108
09-01-13, 14:52
Not that I am aware of..... and if you have problems with 2F then I guess you are outside UK, and with the move of 2A to 2F you are likely to see more problems which are not going to be fixed by a bouquet tweak :)

Yep I am outside UK and that's why I would love to have Location "Outside UK" that would skip the stuff that is not available outside UK as I wrote. I know that will not get me the channels :)) LoL :)) I would just like to have proper bouques created automagically :)

Rob van der Does
09-01-13, 15:57
Yep I am outside UK and that's why I would love to have Location "Outside UK" that would skip the stuff that is not available outside UK as I wrote. I know that will not get me the channels :)) LoL :)) I would just like to have proper bouques created automagically :)
That is of course not possible: how would any plugin be able to know what you (can't) receive? I'm also 'outside the UK' but I can receive every single channel.
And besides: the plugin just reads the data submitted by the provider.

alien2108
09-01-13, 16:07
That is of course not possible: how would any plugin be able to know what you (can't) receive? I'm also 'outside the UK' but I can receive every single channel.
And besides: the plugin just reads the data submitted by the provider.

But isn't that why you can select Area (London, Border England, Brighton....) in plugin? What if there would simply be Area: "Outside UK" that would just skip all the Freq < 11222.17 channels?

Larry-G
09-01-13, 16:53
Yes but those locations are broadcast by the service provider, which is what the plugin reads from, they don't provide a outside the UK option.

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rikesh
10-01-13, 08:50
Trying but I can't seem to get this right.

Here is what I did:

1. Use iDreamX (Mac version of DBEdit) to remove all existing bouquets except the Northern Ireland variations
2. Run AutoBouquetMaker with appropriate regional settings and HD swap

But the outcome isn't what I expected. Setanta channels remain in the NI bouquet - but with channel numbers 2027, 2028 (and not 423, 424). The same outcome occurs when I remove all bouquets and simply transfer the 'All New Vix 28.2 East Bouquets' uploaded by Mr. Mister on 04-01-2013.

What I want is the plugin to produce and regularly update bouquets containing the Setanta channels in their correct place. In other words, bouquets that match the old Mr. Mister 28.2E HD swap bouquets as closely as possible.

Thanks for your help with this.

mickyblueys
10-01-13, 22:56
Trying but I can't seem to get this right.

Here is what I did:

1. Use iDreamX (Mac version of DBEdit) to remove all existing bouquets except the Northern Ireland variations
2. Run AutoBouquetMaker with appropriate regional settings and HD swap

But the outcome isn't what I expected. Setanta channels remain in the NI bouquet - but with channel numbers 2027, 2028 (and not 423, 424). The same outcome occurs when I remove all bouquets and simply transfer the 'All New Vix 28.2 East Bouquets' uploaded by Mr. Mister on 04-01-2013.

What I want is the plugin to produce and regularly update bouquets containing the Setanta channels in their correct place. In other words, bouquets that match the old Mr. Mister 28.2E HD swap bouquets as closely as possible.

Thanks for your help with this.

If that is what you are after why don't you just run the lraizer auto bouquet plugin. Yes it does take longer to run, but it will number every channel as sky does. And it will find all the Irish channels that you want.

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rikesh
13-01-13, 01:31
Thanks for reply. If I install that plugin, will it cause any conflicts with the existing ViX one?

abu baniaz
13-01-13, 02:25
Both Lraizer's and the OE ABM do not interfere with existing ones. The bouquets they creates will be at the top of the list. Numbering will be per official lineup.

meggiedude
13-01-13, 11:02
Hi there.

This looks like a great utility, but can you please add the West Midlands to the Freesat options.
It been requested three or four times already in this thread.

Thanks

MD

Larry-G
13-01-13, 11:44
Hi there.

This looks like a great utility, but can you please add the West Midlands to the Freesat options.
It been requested three or four times already in this thread.

Thanks

MD

you can only use what is in the stream, you cant just go creating new areas, if west midlands is present in the stream then fine but if it's not then it cant be added.

Rob van der Does
13-01-13, 13:34
you can only use what is in the stream, you cant just go creating new areas, if west Midlands is present in the stream then fine but if it's not then it cant be added.
Indeed: the plugin only displays what Sky puts in the stream, and it should be identical to what a Sky-box shows.

madaboutlotus
13-01-13, 23:11
I have ABM configured and have uploaded the latest VIX 28.2 channel listing via DBE, but although all the radio channels are copied, three is no radio channels in any bouquet?

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josweet
14-01-13, 17:11
I have ABM configured and have uploaded the latest VIX 28.2 channel listing via DBE, but although all the radio channels are copied, three is no radio channels in any bouquet?

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Use the "radio" button on your remote to toggle between the TV Bouquets and the radio Bouquets

captain jack
14-01-13, 19:07
Hi guys,

Thanks for the plugin - nice work. However, I have an issue in that when I run the scan, it wipes the existing bouquets, despite the fact that I have "Keep Existing Bouquets" set to yes.

I took a look at /etc/enigma2 and I can see that userbouquets.tv files are still there but are not showing in the bouquets list. Am I missing something?

Thanks
CJ

twol
14-01-13, 21:59
Hi guys,

Thanks for the plugin - nice work. However, I have an issue in that when I run the scan, it wipes the existing bouquets, despite the fact that I have "Keep Existing Bouquets" set to yes.

I took a look at /etc/enigma2 and I can see that userbouquets.tv files are still there but are not showing in the bouquets list. Am I missing something?

Thanks
CJ
Have you looked at the end, it may have changed but when I tried, it always shoved my bouquets to the end.

captain jack
14-01-13, 23:14
Have you looked at the end, it may have changed but when I tried, it always shoved my bouquets to the end.

At the end of what? I only used ABM for Sky UK and that's the only bouquet I have in the list...

twol
14-01-13, 23:23
At the end of what? I only used ABM for Sky UK and that's the only bouquet I have in the list...
Are your "existing" bouquets placed at the end ofthe bouquets generated by autobouquet?

captain jack
14-01-13, 23:34
No, my existing bouquets have been completely wiped.

warajoker
15-01-13, 22:58
im using the vu+solo2 and I can not change anything in the hide sections. its like when I click on it my remote stops working so I can not scroll down to select anything

AutoBouquetMaker released!

After a period of intensive testing ViX has released their new AutoBouquetMaker, included in all images from build 514. This unique functionality creates bouquets for a number of major providers, where the user has a lot of influence on the layout. Easy to use and very fast running, with an option for regular automated scans.

For this we have to thank Andy Blacburn & Sandro Cavazzoni who have spent a lot of time to create this fabulous feature.

mickeyboymel
16-01-13, 00:13
Same here on the Gigablue Quad, cannot hide or keep, will not scroll or tick was working perfectly until lately. I'm on build 562

delboy13
18-01-13, 22:07
i've just installed fresh image had freesat and sky on yes to scan but entertainment numbers start from 1001 not 101 also hide bouquet does not work for me using duo both on fixed 28.2

Larry-G
18-01-13, 22:13
were aware of the hide bouquets error, that should be fixed in the next release, as for the numeration it's working fine here for me.

do you have sky uk above freesat in the providers order section ? if not make sure it is.

delboy13
19-01-13, 18:28
yes sky is above freesat on sky options i chose generate main yes, generate sections yes, hd and fta both no and swap yes

digidude
19-01-13, 18:41
its like when I click on it my remote stops working so I can not scroll down to select anything


will not scroll or tick

i believe pheonix has read about this sort of thing happening

what image are you using m8?

Larry-G
19-01-13, 19:04
Same here on the Gigablue Quad, cannot hide or keep, will not scroll or tick was working perfectly until lately. I'm on build 562

Fixed in the current build ( 568 or 569 i believe ).

roy0110
24-01-13, 09:39
since i updated to latest version 3.0 build 569
i have installed ABM, i have all providers enabled.
when i i choose green button (satellites) i only have 3 sats showing, 13E 19E and 28E
i downloaded a sat xml and ftp'd to etc/enigma2 but still have just those 3 sats.
have i gone wrong somewhere?

madaboutlotus
24-01-13, 11:45
The rearranging of the listing from my setting as stated here is becoming annoying. I'm considering removing ABM and going back to my original setup so my listing is fixed. I fail to see what ABM does for me that the Mr Mister listing for 28.2 does not, or am I missing something.

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Rob van der Does
24-01-13, 11:47
You can't remove ABM as it is embedded, but you can decide not to use it. Although I fail to see the problem.

madaboutlotus
24-01-13, 11:54
Rob, it is just the re-ordering on the next download that is my issue which had been stated will always happen. I'll look for the thread on how to disable it.

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Larry-G
24-01-13, 16:42
I fail to see what ABM does for me that the Mr Mister listing for 28.2 does not, or am I missing something.

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no disrespect to MR.misters work as i know he puts a lot of time and effort in to his bouquets, but the ABM plugin is significantly different in that once setup it's fully automatic. meaning no more missing channels or waiting for a bouquet to be updated.

madaboutlotus
24-01-13, 17:10
Ok Phoenix, I do get your point and it is a great plugin and does save the time to keep updating. Any chance of a tweek to keep the bouquets to the last setting rather than reordering back to default. No disrespect to the developers :D

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Larry-G
24-01-13, 17:31
Ok Phoenix, I do get your point and it is a great plugin and does save the time to keep updating. Any chance of a tweek to keep the bouquets to the last setting rather than reordering back to default. No disrespect to the developers :D

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The plugin completely re-writes the bouquets on each pass, to be honest i'm no coder so i have no idea what would be needed to be done nor exactly what your trying to do your self.

i my self use ABM on multiple systems for sky uk and it works perfectly for me.

what i would suggest is that you create a separate thread detailing exactly what your doing and what you expect to happen as compared with the actual results. otherwise you run he risk of your posts becoming lost in this ever growing thread.

madaboutlotus
24-01-13, 17:33
Fair enough Phoenix. I'll do some screen dumps as well and see what happens. Thanks for the reply.

Eiji
25-01-13, 23:39
Not all the categories are being created and the channel numbers are wrong . I tried to create the bouquets after a tuner scan.

I've been using AutoBouquets 28.2E on my Dreambox which had proper categories and Sly channel numbering but I now have a Vu Solo 2 hence the change in program as ABM is built into Vix.

judge
25-01-13, 23:41
Not all the categories are being created and the channel numbers are wrong . I tried to create the bouquets after a tuner scan.

I've been using AutoBouquets 28.2E on my Dreambox which had proper categories and Sly channel numbering but I now have a Vu Solo 2 hence the change in program as ABM is built into Vix.

seriously?
a bit more info would be handy.
Such as local area setting used, any other settings you've changed and so on..

Eiji
25-01-13, 23:51
seriously?
a bit more info would be handy.
Such as local area setting used, any other settings you've changed and so on..

All settings under Provider Sky are set to yes including custom channels and local area setting is Granada HD.

judge
25-01-13, 23:58
All settings under Provider Sky are set to yes including custom channels and local area setting is Granada HD.

so, what's the problem, what bouquets are missing?

Larry-G
26-01-13, 00:00
All settings under Provider Sky are set to yes including custom channels and local area setting is Granada HD.

you do also have the freesat option selected and set to your local region ?? as it is needed to populate all channels.

roy0110
26-01-13, 08:35
since i updated to latest version 3.0 build 569
i have installed ABM, i have all providers enabled.
when i i choose green button (satellites) i only have 3 sats showing, 13E 19E and 28E
i downloaded a sat xml and ftp'd to etc/enigma2 but still have just those 3 sats.
have i gone wrong somewhere?

have i posted this in the wrong forum?
if so, someone please inform me and i'll look for help there an this post can be be deleted.

Larry-G
26-01-13, 08:51
have i posted this in the wrong forum?
if so, someone please inform me and i'll look for help there an this post can be be deleted.

no your in the correct forum, although this thread is getting rather large so it may be best to create a separate thread for your issue.

also what exact locations are you trying to receive ?, as the ABM plugin only works with a limited number of satellite providers due to the way they handle channels.

for example if i were setting up a motorized system up now i would use the Vhannibal E2 motor bouquet as a base pack, once that was loaded i would then fire up ABM and set it up to maintain and auto update my sky uk listings. This way i get the benefit of both worlds if you understand where i'm coming from.

Rob van der Does
26-01-13, 09:06
since i updated to latest version 3.0 build 569
i have installed ABM, i have all providers enabled.
when i i choose green button (satellites) i only have 3 sats showing, 13E 19E and 28E
i downloaded a sat xml and ftp'd to etc/enigma2 but still have just those 3 sats.
have i gone wrong somewhere?
The satellites that show up in the channellist (as I presume you're talking about the channellist) are in accordance with your tunerconfiguration. So please tell us what your tuner setup is.
Anyway: there is no relation with ABM.

roy0110
02-02-13, 10:14
no your in the correct forum, although this thread is getting rather large so it may be best to create a separate thread for your issue.

also what exact locations are you trying to receive ?, as the ABM plugin only works with a limited number of satellite providers due to the way they handle channels.

for example if i were setting up a motorized system up now i would use the Vhannibal E2 motor bouquet as a base pack, once that was loaded i would then fire up ABM and set it up to maintain and auto update my sky uk listings. This way i get the benefit of both worlds if you understand where i'm coming from.

thank-you,
i went down the vhannibal motor route and things are all ok.

Larry-G
02-02-13, 10:25
thank-you,
i went down the vhannibal motor route and things are all ok.

Nice to see you got things sorted.

micks_address
05-02-13, 13:02
hi guys, just wondering as i'm in ireland, is there a sky ireland listing available? i dont really want one to match ireland exactly thugh as the irish epg doesnt have itv or variations.. just be nice to have a combination of the both..

judge
05-02-13, 13:17
Use ABM to create Sky Ireland & Freesat London.
All the ITVs & variations will be created in the freesat, move the ones you want to a favourites bouquet...

micks_address
05-02-13, 13:58
the itv hds as well?


Use ABM to create Sky Ireland & Freesat London.
All the ITVs & variations will be created in the freesat, move the ones you want to a favourites bouquet...

judge
05-02-13, 14:45
the itv hds as well?

No, you will get ITV1 HD but not the others as far as I'm aware.
Run a Sky London HD scan, use DBE to create your favourites, then run a ROI Sky scan, add the Irish channels you want to your favourites...
Long winded but you will get all the channels you want.

storman
09-02-13, 02:07
It keep on freezing on me when I go into set up settings

judge
09-02-13, 02:25
It keep on freezing on me when I go into set up settings

what build number?

Larry-G
09-02-13, 06:36
It keep on freezing on me when I go into set up settings

we need a little more detail about your setup, as judge asked what image build are you currently on ??.

tomthebomb1968
10-02-13, 18:37
Guys can someone gimme a bit of help. Located in NI so have set the ABM for NI HD. When it runs it dont populate UTV in the 103 slot. Infact nothing is in the 103 slot. If I run ABM for NI SD the locals are correct but loose the BBC1 NIHD 1n 101.
I suspect that when UTV HD is on the epg it will fix it.

To be honest its not for me but my mate, I use the boquets to goto where I want rather than using numbering

danivtec
10-02-13, 18:56
I think this may have been asked before but is there any plans to add the channel number before the channel name on the infobar? Currently, there is only the channel name.

For example 101 BBC 1

andy2110
10-02-13, 20:54
love this on my 2 duos, i am trying to set it up on my gigablue for multi sats..does it work ok with multi sats? or do i have to just pick and chose ones i want and then add engima 2 settings for motorised set up?

garryboy
11-02-13, 12:16
Ive always used Mr.Mister bouquets and thought id give the autobouquets a whirl.

Its really good but i have a bit of a problem trying to sort out STV WESt HD region.

channel 103 doesnt populate with anything, the only way it works is if i select SKY STV SD but then i loose all other HD channels ie BBc Scotland Hd, c4 HD.

i ended up manually inserting STV sd by downloading the channels to DBedit and reuploading them once id added STV sd.

Is there any workaround for this? other than what im doing

im on Vix 600 at the moment

cheers in advance
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tomthebomb1968
13-02-13, 11:09
Guys have fresh build of 600 running on Solo2. I downloaded Catseye settings from plugin feed. Then ran ABM. When ABM finishes the Catseye settings are gone, just the ABM boqeuts are visible in Favourites. Have tried with Likra and Cajon settings and ABM works correctly slotting in at the top of existing ones. But each time with catseye only the ABM Favs are displayed.

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micscave
13-02-13, 14:32
Yep I can't get catseye to work with ABM either.

shanethegooner
18-02-13, 11:11
Started using this last night, really handy instead of having to manually update channels each time.

I did notice a few channels are wrongly named though;

303 - Sky Movies 007 HD should be Sky Movies Oscars HD
310 - Sky Movies Modern Greats HD should be Sky Movies 007 HD
124 - FX HD should be FOX HD

Same goes for the SD and +1 channels.

Other than that it works really great, thanks a lot! :D

rossi2000
25-02-13, 17:58
afternoon!

is it possible the autobouquetsmaker can be adapted to work with cable?

LraiZer
26-02-13, 16:04
afternoon!

is it possible the autobouquetsmaker can be adapted to work with cable?

im sure it would be possible, we built autobouquets for cable UK into the commando dbox2 images a few years ago. there should still be some old autobouquets patches somewhere on ukcvs for cable uk, or i should still have them lurking in the depths on my old dev system :)

rossi2000
26-02-13, 16:37
ta for the info lraizer,

i have created a full set of bouquets for uk cable but itd be nice to have autobouquets maker do the work and create both for me when i do an update. atm its a ballache having to update sat then merge my cable ones.

would i need to use your autobouquetsmaker for this or can the vix one be modified with your patches?

i dont know if things have changed since the dbox days regarding the stream but if yee need any assistance in making this possible lemme know, i can try to get some info from the stream.