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Stanman
30-04-12, 22:29
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File-sharing site The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK internet service providers, the High Court has ruled.


The Swedish website hosts links to download mostly pirated free music and video.


Sky, Everything Everywhere, TalkTalk, O2 and Virgin Media must all prevent their users from accessing the site.


"Sites like The Pirate Bay destroy jobs in the UK and undermine investment in new British artists," the British Phonographic Industry (BPI) said.


A sixth ISP, BT, requested "a few more weeks" to consider their position on blocking the site.


BPI's chief executive Geoff Taylor said: "The High Court has confirmed that The Pirate Bay infringes copyright on a massive scale.


"Its operators line their pockets by commercially exploiting music and other creative works without paying a penny to the people who created them.


"This is wrong - musicians, sound engineers and video editors deserve to be paid for their work just like everyone else."


'Compelling alternatives'
In November 2011, the BPI asked the group of ISPs to voluntarily block access to the site.


The request followed a court order to block Newzbin 2, a site also offering links to download pirated material.


The ISPs said they would not block the site unless a court order was made, as is now the case.


Virgin Media told the BBC it will now comply with the request, but warned such measures are, in the long term, only part of the solution.

"As a responsible ISP, Virgin Media complies with court orders addressed to the company but strongly believes that changing consumer behaviour to tackle copyright infringement also needs compelling legal alternatives, such as our agreement with Spotify, to give consumers access to great content at the right price."


The Pirate Bay was launched in 2003 by a group of friends from Sweden and rapidly became one of the most famous file-sharing sites on the web.


It allows users to search for and access copyrighted content including movies, games and TV shows.


No 'extra pennies'
In April 2009, the Swedish courts found the four founders of the site guilty of helping people circumvent copyright controls.

The ruling was upheld after an appeal in 2010, but the site continues to function.
The Pirate Party UK, a spin-off from the political movement started in Sweden that backs copyright reform, said this latest move will "not put any extra pennies into the pockets of artists".
"Unfortunately, the move to order blocking on The Pirate Bay comes as no surprise," party leader Loz Kaye told the BBC.
"The truth is that we are on a slippery slope towards internet censorship here in the United Kingdom."
'Pointless and dangerous'Critics of site-blocking argue that such measures are ineffective as they can be circumvented using proxy servers and other techniques.
However, one analyst told the BBC that it was still worthwhile to take court action as it underlines the illegal nature of sites such as The Pirate Bay.
"I know it's fashionable to say 'oh, it just won't work', but we should keep trying," said Mark Little, principal analyst at Ovum.
"We should keep blocking them - they are stealing music illegally.
"The biggest culprits of this, really, are the younger demographic who just haven't been convinced that doing this is somehow morally uncomfortable.
"The principle that downloading music illegally is a bad thing to do has not been reinforced by schools or parents."
But Jim Killock, executive director of the Open Rights Group, called the move "pointless and dangerous".
"It will fuel calls for further, wider and even more drastic calls for internet censorship of many kinds, from pornography to extremism," he said.
"Internet censorship is growing in scope and becoming easier. Yet it never has the effect desired. It simply turns criminals into heroes."

Rimmel
01-05-12, 12:41
"File-sharing site The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK internet service providers, the High Court has ruled."

The beginning of the end of the internet. :(

Bluto141
02-05-12, 14:26
No not the end of the internet, just time to move the goal posts again.
The problem with torrents is they are free and s such, you are not secure, so maybe time to look elsewhere for your back ups, such as news groups..
Or a new radical idea called paying for it, lol sorry last bit is just a bit of fun..

pooface
02-05-12, 15:49
Makes you laugh...

If they didn't decide to whack up the costs of everything, then less people would pirate... Take games as an example ... People want the game as soon as it comes out. Yet, why should they pay £35-£40? Especially when you consider that in 3-4 months after release, it'll be available for half the price...

As an example, Saints Row 3. Released November 2011. Price at release was around £35-40 everywhere. Amazon release price £35:


http://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/Saints-Row-The-Third-Xbox/product/B005ULEJ3I

As you can see, it's now on amazon for £18... Even a month after release was available for £20, then went back up... In 6 months, it's now half price or better...

If they made prices cheaper to begin with, less people (in my opinion) would pirate... Prime example:

Modern Warfare 3. Release November 2011. That was almost 6 months ago... Price at release most places was at least £35 again. Amazon release price appears to have £43:


http://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/Call-Duty-Modern-Warfare-Xbox/product/B00511T4NW

Now, I bought this myself from Tesco, as I just needed to buy 2100 MS Points and the game for £42... I then proceeded to sell the points for £14, so effectively, I got the game for £28, which I was happy with. However, purchasing at the £35-£43, I was not happy with, so wouldn't have bought it.

I feel is these publishers/artists etc were not so greedy in the frist place, they would stand a better chance of selling more items and making the money... How often do you go in to the supermarkets and buy whatever pizza etc are on offer?

fruitball
02-05-12, 22:55
We a losing our freedom slowly and soon there will be none left.

Damm shame

fruitball
02-05-12, 22:58
Makes you laugh...

If they didn't decide to whack up the costs of everything, then less people would pirate... Take games as an example ... People want the game as soon as it comes out. Yet, why should they pay £35-£40? Especially when you consider that in 3-4 months after release, it'll be available for half the price...

As an example, Saints Row 3. Released November 2011. Price at release was around £35-40 everywhere. Amazon release price £35:


http://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/Saints-Row-The-Third-Xbox/product/B005ULEJ3I

As you can see, it's now on amazon for £18... Even a month after release was available for £20, then went back up... In 6 months, it's now half price or better...

If they made prices cheaper to begin with, less people (in my opinion) would pirate... Prime example:

Modern Warfare 3. Release November 2011. That was almost 6 months ago... Price at release most places was at least £35 again. Amazon release price appears to have £43:


http://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/Call-Duty-Modern-Warfare-Xbox/product/B00511T4NW

Now, I bought this myself from Tesco, as I just needed to buy 2100 MS Points and the game for £42... I then proceeded to sell the points for £14, so effectively, I got the game for £28, which I was happy with. However, purchasing at the £35-£43, I was not happy with, so wouldn't have bought it.

I feel is these publishers/artists etc were not so greedy in the frist place, they would stand a better chance of selling more items and making the money... How often do you go in to the supermarkets and buy whatever pizza etc are on offer?

totally agree with you m8 but the problem is people keep paying for it and the money people pay is going to the laywers and solicitors that fight about pirate bay..
People need to boycoat these prices by not buying them.
Everyone in the uk should stop paying for there internet until sites are unblocked.. lets see if a court would change the ruling... your damm right they will but people keep buying and complaining but do NOTHING!

markus625
07-05-12, 16:45
Just get a VPN £5 a month.

Spinifex
07-05-12, 16:57
Just get a VPN £5 a month.

just use work around urls m8 loads floating about, not read the rules and dont intend to so wont post any links lol

gramps
07-05-12, 17:11
on Firefox try using MAFIAA Fire O.9d

gets around the ban

amazing what google does

Spinifex
07-05-12, 17:15
just emailed a friend the url so here goes
https://tpb.pirateparty.org.uk/

no proxies required ;)

pooface
07-05-12, 21:46
Has this already been blocked?!

If so, goes to show that it's just done using the dns servers... I'm using open dns dns servers, and I got on to the site on first attempt... Can't be bothered to change servers back to test, but was impression I got from above posts...

Larry-G
07-05-12, 21:50
not read the rules and dont intend to

well we cant be having that.

rules reset.

Stanman
07-05-12, 22:08
Not blocked at the moment poo, still accesiable from isp dns here.

Sicilian
09-05-12, 15:48
Still ok here too.

Larry-G
09-05-12, 16:26
I have been using the google DNS servers for years and it's not blocked for me yet.