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Hi folks,
I have an Iomega 2TB NAS drive and it is good but not great.
Some drawbacks are:
1. Poor management software.
2. Slow to transfer from Windows.
3. Can only FTP into one folder.
I am curious what others are using and what is good/bad about them!
Cheers,
mcquaim
silverfox0786
14-01-12, 17:50
I've owned a QNAP and now own a Synology which i got before xmas 11
i must admid both have been awsome
and would recomend either one
i loved my QNAP but it was a 2 bay so i brought a 4 bay and decided to try out the Synology and will say very very pleased
so in my opinion and if you can afford it a Synology would be my first choice then would be a QNAP
My Synology is a DS411j and with 4x 3TB Drives set me back £850 but worth every penny :)
silverfox0786
14-01-12, 17:53
Oh also to add
both QNAP and Synology have WEB HOSTING, EMAIL HOSTING, they can install pakages like sabnzb,sickbeard,couch potato, transmition etc.
and the synology even has iphone/android management apps
full windows,linuix,appple file protocols and work a dream to share on VIX
also it has a great FTP protocol and is gigabit lan as standard
Man, that is a hell of a lot of storage and a hell of a lot of dosh...
What kind of transfer speeds would you achieve from drag & drop from pc to synology, ignore ftp?
My Netgear router and the Iomega NAS are both supposed to be Gigabit all wired together with CAT6 cable and my transfer speeds are just not great. I would have expected much better after forking out the extra cash...
silverfox0786
14-01-12, 18:37
yeah it ended up costing more than i expected as i wanted 3tb and though oh well might as well so 4x3TB cost me £600 alone £150 each plu steh NAS empty at £250
its a bit of those situation swhere my mum yesterday got a new gas fire that needs a gas safe engineer to fit it
the fire cost £105 and the engineer quoted me £250 to install
but me and my delboy ways he commming on monday to install for £100 ;)
here is the performance chart for my DS411j
http://www.synology.com/products/performance.php?lang=us#tabs-3
Would you actually achieve those speeds?
The Iomega was supposed to support high transfer speeds but be lucky to get 7-8 megs per sec. FTP achieves better speeds but that is limited to one folder in the management software (which is terrible..)
silverfox0786
14-01-12, 19:01
those are propper bentchmark tests and i pretty much get close to em on mine
and i am able to tranfer to as many locations as i want its got a pretty good multitasking protocol
Cheers for the info, a bit costly but if your getting those speeds then prob worth it..
Anyone else any good alternatives?
Netgear Readynas Duo, good cost effective solution. They sometimes do a promotion with free HDD.
Yeh im thinking of getting the ultra version of the netgear nas
Cheers, I read some reviews saying this NAS lacked ram??
I read something earlier about the synology NAS having some bug with it attempting to generate thumbs for every photo you stick on it resulting in hours to complete! This the case?
silverfox0786
14-01-12, 23:33
I read something earlier about the synology NAS having some bug with it attempting to generate thumbs for every photo you stick on it resulting in hours to complete! This the case?
i dont think its a bug just thumbs take time
i had over 7000 photos and it did i admit take a week to do but i was able to pause it at any time and let it continue later and now that its done thats it dont need to do it any more
its only a one shot deal on creating thimbs for pictures
from there if you add a pic or 2 at a time then you wont even notice it doing the thumbs
HP Proliant Microserver N40L. £240 but with £100 cashback if the offer is still on, I have mine fitted with 4 3Tb drives plus the 250Gb drive that it is supplied with for the OS, Im running Windows Home Server 2011, with Flexraid setup as a drive pool and Snapshot Raid config,
i have a gigabit network and can copy a full 50Gb bluray rip accross the network in about 8 minutes.
Here is a couple of my speed tests the first one is before setting up the drivepool and raid, the second is just after.
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CrystalDiskMark 3.0.1 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]
Sequential Read : 74.968 MB/s
Sequential Write : 71.879 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 23.571 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 37.166 MB/s
Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 0.273 MB/s [ 66.6 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 0.624 MB/s [ 152.4 IOPS]
Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 0.725 MB/s [ 177.0 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 0.621 MB/s [ 151.7 IOPS]
Test : 1000 MB [C: 61.8% (174.9/283.0 GB)] (x5)
Date : 2011/12/19 16:22:55
OS : Windows 7 Home Premium Edition [6.1 Build 7600] (x64)
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CrystalDiskMark 3.0.1 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]
Sequential Read : 86.438 MB/s
Sequential Write : 69.761 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 98.531 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 51.635 MB/s
Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 5.915 MB/s [ 1444.0 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 1.185 MB/s [ 289.4 IOPS]
Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 48.526 MB/s [ 11847.1 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 1.407 MB/s [ 343.5 IOPS]
Test : 1000 MB [Z: 0.0% (0.6/8383.4 GB)] (x5)
Date : 2011/12/21 20:04:19
OS : Windows 7 Home Premium Edition [6.1 Build 7600] (x64)
These test were run from an older laptop that is bottlenecked by the hdd read speed.
silverfox0786
14-01-12, 23:55
thats a pretty nice setup max
have you tried installing freenas to it
might be an idea
yes tried freenas but its not as flexible as WHS 2011 and Flexraid, I have the usual suspects running, SAB etc setup to run without the need to log in, I am also running PS3 media server on it for the 3 PS3's and Xbox we have upstairs, music,dvd and blurays are served up to the living room via a popcorn hour c200 and in the case of music direct to my AVR as well
Am thinking of getting rid of the snapshot raid and just using the Flexraid as a drive pooler which will increase my transfer speeds further but I dont want to max out the network.
Flexraid is free by the way and runs with a variety of OS's
Whats the power consumption on this
Whats the power consumption on this
150w max but usually less as it spins down the drives that are not needed in the pool
silverfox0786
15-01-12, 00:12
been looking at building a PC based NAS system with my spare motherboard
looks like i got alot more reading to do as i never knew about flex raid
cheers for the info max
been looking at building a PC based NAS system with my spare motherboard
looks like i got alot more reading to do as i never knew about flex raid
cheers for the info max
Your welcome mate, if you google flexraid you will find it and the wiki but if you want the support forums you need to google specifically for Flexraid forum
been looking at building a PC based NAS system with my spare motherboard
looks like i got alot more reading to do as i never knew about flex raid
cheers for the info max
remember though, RAID isn't backup! IMO you would be best doing 1:1 backup for anything you value and forgetting about RAID in a multimedia environment! (of course you could do both for the best security but its all ££ and HDD's aren't exactly cheap these days :()
silverfox0786
15-01-12, 01:33
remember though, RAID isn't backup! IMO you would be best doing 1:1 backup for anything you value and forgetting about RAID in a multimedia environment! (of course you could do both for the best security but its all ££ and HDD's aren't exactly cheap these days :()
depending on what is my best option and OS i wanna setup redundencies so hopefully should be a little safe
remember though, RAID isn't backup! IMO you would be best doing 1:1 backup for anything you value and forgetting about RAID in a multimedia environment! (of course you could do both for the best security but its all ££ and HDD's aren't exactly cheap these days :()
You are right, RAID is no substitute for a proper backup regime, I have a couple of 1Tb USB drives that I use as backup as well as having the snapshot raid setup.
One of the things I really like about flexraid is that any data on any drive within the pool is retained in its existing format.
this means that you can use drives already containing data and as the file system is retained as is, any drive can be removed at any time and the data read on a normal PC.
The rule I have used is that the OS (WHS 2011) which automatically partitions the OS drive as C: and D: is not part of the Raid or drive pool, which means that if I have an OS system catastrophic failure it will not destroy any other data, so nothing precious goes on the D: drive and is used for general downloaded crap such as program installation files.
Thanks lads, lots and lots of detail there :thumbsup:
I think I need to do some hardcore reading to get my head around some of it though. Any good websites explaining good home network setups?
An interesting point you made maxwell was that your tests were run on an old laptop that bottlenecked because of slow HDD speed. How did you check this?
The speeds you are getting are still brilliant..
Thanks lads, lots and lots of detail there :thumbsup:
I think I need to do some hardcore reading to get my head around some of it though. Any good websites explaining good home network setups?
An interesting point you made maxwell was that your tests were run on an old laptop that bottlenecked because of slow HDD speed. How did you check this?
The speeds you are getting are still brilliant..
Crystal Disk Mark allows you to test individual disks on either the local machine or mapped network drives, the link to it is included in my speed test results, Oh and its free
Top stuff maxwell, I must run this to check if this might be a factor for my slow speeds..
Any suggestions for good reading for all this network setup stuff?
Top stuff maxwell, I must run this to check if this might be a factor for my slow speeds..
Any suggestions for good reading for all this network setup stuff?
there is some good stuff in the networking section of AV forums, the trouble is that if you go to the more specialist sites they tend to assume that you have a good basic knowledge to start with and tend to be more in depth and technical than you need at the moment.
Some things to consider.
Which OS type would be easiest for you to get started ? - Windows/Linux, each has their merits and disadvantages.
What will I be using the server for ? - This will dictate the best OS to use for your purposes. Some OS's for you to look at : FreeNAS, OpenMediavault, UnRaid, Windows Home Server 1 and Windows Home Server 2011. The reason for saying WHS 1 is that this has drivepooling built in, a feature that was removed from WHS 2011
Raid or not ? - Quite a lot of people dont bother with Raid in homeserver environments as long as you have a proper backup regime it really doesnt matter IMHO.
Drive-Pooling - Not essential but highly recommended again IMHO
for the last 2 take a look at Flexraid.
Cheers maxwell, great stuff. I will look at AV forums in a bit.
I am using windows and the purpose is to feed music, photo & movies around my network. I have 2 Duo's, ps3 and a screenplay. Everything currently works fine when I get data onto my Iomega NAS but that is my problem. It is chronic slow to do so..
I guess I need to understand why it is so slow before I fork out more dosh on a new NAS when that might not be my main problem!
Thanks again, greatly appreciated :thumbsup:
Just remember with a 100mbs ethernet your Maximum transfer rate would be 12.5Mb/s, and slower using wireless.
Yeah, I had read that. My setup should be Gigabit though (Router, switch, NAS all wired with CAT6 cable) so I would have hoped that speeds would be higher. Currently only get around 7-8Mb/s, I would have hoped for much better that this...
Yeah, I had read that. My setup should be Gigabit though (Router, switch, NAS all wired with CAT6 cable) so I would have hoped that speeds would be higher. Currently only get around 7-8Mb/s, I would have hoped for much better that this...
Don't know how you are connected up but I would connect everything to the switch (assuming its a Gigabit switch) so the router is only used for net access, this means that any devices that need to talk to each other can do so directly and a maximum speeds.
Also make sure any NIC cards are using the latest drivers.
The speeds you are getting are definitely 10/100 and not 1000 so something is wrong somewhere.
List all your kit and what you are transferring from/to I will see if i can spot something.
Hi Maxwell, thanks again for the help on this..
Here is my current setup:
Dell XPS 8300, Win7 HP, Intel i7-2600 3.4GHz, 1.5TB HDD, Broadcom NetLink Gigabit Ethernet
Netgear DGN3500 Wireless-N Gigabit Router
Netgear GS108 8-port Gigabit Ethernet Unmanaged Switch
Iomega 2TB Gigabit Network Drive (Not Cloud version)
The Router shouldn't matter as I have the Dell PC and the Iomega NAS connected to the Netgear switch.
If I attempt to drop a file (current one is a 2.3GB *.ts file) from the Dell PC to the Iomega NAS the transfer rate is 2.7MB/s.
If I ftp into the ActiveFolder (Only folder that allows FTP on the Iomega) I can get a speed of around 7.4MB/s.
I downloaded CrystalDiskInfo to check that my HDD in the Dell is up to the job but I'm not sure how to run that report.
Spot anything obvious?
Cheers,
mcquaim
Nothing obvious at all with that :
On the Dell make sure in the advanced properties for the Broadcom for speed&duplex are set to Auto,
Check that the dell is running at 1.0Gb - Network and sharing center>Change adapter settings> right click on the local area connection (may also have the Broadcom name) and select status.
you should then see info about Ip4 etc but the line we are intrested in says Speed - if its at 1.0Gb then the Dell NIC and cable to the switch is fine.
If not at 1.0Gb then unplug the cable from the switch and try it to the router, if you still dont have 1.0Gb try a different cable and repeat both checks.
If you get it when connected to the router but not the switch then obviously the switch is the problem
you can also check all your cables are good using this method.
If you cannot get 1.0Gb speed from the dell at all, goto the broadcom website and download the latest driver for your card and install that then try again.
Obviously if you do have 1.0Gb connection from the dell all is ok with the cable, so change the cable for another, make sure you get the speed with the new cable and put the original cable between the switch and NAS.
So at this point we should know that the Dell,the switch or router and cables are good to 1.0Gbs leaving only the NAS.
I am not familiar with your NAS but if it has auto backup or firewall/anti virus try disabling them.
Dont know if that makes any sense to you or not i could be just rambling by now :eek:
Edit : you dont need to be transferring any data for these checks.
Cheers maxwell, I am away all day so haven't had a chance to try your suggestions out!
I'll be back around 9 so I will try then!
Thanks again for the help!
Hi there,
I'm making some progress here but head getting fried :smash:
I checked all the settings for the Broadcom Ethernet and it looked fine and connected at 1GB and Speed & Duplex were correctly set as Auto. I then checked the Dell support website and they indeed did have an updated driver so I anstalled that and thankfully it seems to have helped.
If I attempt to drop a file (current one is a 2.3GB *.ts file) from the Dell PC to the Iomega NAS the transfer rate is now approx 10MB/s. (Big improvement)
If I ftp into the ActiveFolder (Only folder that allows FTP on the Iomega) I can now get a speed of around 18MB/s. (Again a hell of a lot better..)
The thing is, should I be expecting better than this with a Gigabit network?
I ran the following test in CrystalDiskMark, my Dell HDD looks fine??
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CrystalDiskMark 3.0.1 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]
Sequential Read : 109.672 MB/s
Sequential Write : 98.969 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 27.423 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 50.130 MB/s
Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 0.283 MB/s [ 69.0 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 0.581 MB/s [ 141.8 IOPS]
Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 0.524 MB/s [ 127.9 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 0.584 MB/s [ 142.7 IOPS]
Test : 1000 MB [C: 43.9% (607.3/1384.9 GB)] (x5)
Date : 2012/01/15 22:44:54
OS : Windows 7 Home Premium Edition SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x64)
This is for the Iomega NAS (Looks like this could be my problem??)
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CrystalDiskMark 3.0.1 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]
Sequential Read : 36.072 MB/s
Sequential Write : 14.339 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 12.632 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 14.568 MB/s
Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 0.335 MB/s [ 81.7 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 1.609 MB/s [ 392.7 IOPS]
Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 0.341 MB/s [ 83.2 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 1.763 MB/s [ 430.4 IOPS]
Test : 1000 MB [V: 12.3% (228.6/1858.9 GB)] (x5)
Date : 2012/01/15 23:34:16
OS : Windows 7 Home Premium Edition SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x64)
Cheers,
mcquaim
By virtue of the fact you can now get above 12.5GB/s transfer with the ftp, you are definitely running a Gb network and looking at your Crystal disk info your dell is fine but your NAS is choking badly. You do have some reasonable 4k write speeds for the NAS but everything else is naff.
Your options are to see if there is any better firmware for the NAS that might improve things or upgrade.
Thanks maxwell :thumbsup:
I checked the Iomega website and apparently the firmware is bang up to date so looks like this is as good as it currently gets...
I think the Synology NAS is my next port of call :lifting:
Cheers,
mcquaim
I have a 1 TB Western Digital World thingy which isnt the best - it was at the time thought.... Now I have a QNAP 110 TS 2TB drive as well, and it is so much better.....
It is recognised straight away by my ET 9000 and works great.
I am thinking of buying the Synology but I'm not sure what HDD to buy to put in it and there seems to be a big variety out there..
What is good and would suit the Synology well?
I don't want to have a nice NAS with crappy disks that can't handle the transfer speed...
silverfox0786
18-01-12, 23:44
I am thinking of buying the Synology but I'm not sure what HDD to buy to put in it and there seems to be a big variety out there..
What is good and would suit the Synology well?
I don't want to have a nice NAS with crappy disks that can't handle the transfer speed...
there is a compatability list on the synology website
select the correct nas drive and it will list what drives can and cant be used
Cheers, I'll have a look :thumbsup:
@Silverfox
Fella - I was looking at one of these Synology enclosures to replace my recently demised Buffalo Terastation. Can you tell me what your experience is with the amount of noise this enclosure makes?
The Terrastation fan noise was truly shocking although in fairness, I don't think this product was designed with a domestic environment in mind.
For anyone else thinking about buying a Buffalo device, be warned that once you are outside of warranty you are pretty much on your own, and Buffalo will NOT supply spare parts for the vast majority of their products - very poor.
silverfox0786
19-01-12, 17:51
i have the DS411j and it sits under my bed
and i cant hear it at all
it has 2 fans and they can be set to quite mode or performance mode
and either way i dont hear em
infact i hear my HDD on my ET9000 louder and know when ever a recording is about to start but the NAS
brilliant
and it has good CS support and its own forum
:)
i have the DS411j and it sits under my bed
and i cant hear it at all
it has 2 fans and they can be set to quite mode or performance mode
and either way i dont hear em
infact i hear my HDD on my ET9000 louder and know when ever a recording is about to start but the NAS
brilliant
and it has good CS support and its own forum
:)
There was no fan adjustment on the Buffalo, short of unplugging the fan - and then the unit would shut itself down with a fan fault warning - grrr! I ended up having to put it in the loft!
I was shocked at how dismissive Buffalo Support is towards it's customers - it does make you wonder how they manage to stay in business. I didn't actually pay any money for this NAS - a friend gave it to me as a thank you for some free consultancy work I did for him. But I certainly would never consider another Buffalo product again.
Your experience with Synology and their DS311j sounds pretty impressive and you seem to be able to do so much stuff with them so that is definately going on my shopping list :cool:
Thanks so much for your prompt reply - really appreciate it.
Best regards, Mark
silverfox0786
19-01-12, 18:20
no probs clabs glad to help
although i brought my nas before xmas i may upgrade it or get a second one that how impressed i was
the j series are ideal for starters in the nas and synology brand game
teh 2xxj is 2 bay and 4xxj is 4 bay so make yr choice and go for it
:)
Its worth noting you could build an HTPC for little more which would also give you the flexibility of building an HD movie library (and much more) as well as storage for your STB!
silverfox0786
19-01-12, 18:29
Its worth noting you could build an HTPC for little more which would also give you the flexibility of building an HD movie library (and much more) as well as storage for your STB!
yr right but free nas isnt that great compaired to DSM plus i have a video library and even configured it to work in XBMC and its runnign via a SQL library all via my NAS
plus synology can accomodate coutch potato,ssabnzbd,sickbeard,transmition
and works in all platform protocols
and has the important SHR [Synology Hybrid Raid] that allows you to use different HDD sizes and have no wasted space and even have 1 or 2 drive redundency
On the back of all the support from here and all the good reviews on the net I purchased the DS212j today along with two WD Caviar Black 2TB (7200 RPM) SATA 6GB/s 64MB 3.5" HDD's... Expensive but I hope it is worth it as my current Iomega is painfully slow to transfer media onto it :smash:
silverfox0786
19-01-12, 21:32
On the back of all the support from here and all the good reviews on the net I purchased the DS212j today along with two WD Caviar Black 2TB (7200 RPM) SATA 6GB/s 64MB 3.5" HDD's... Expensive but I hope it is worth it as my current Iomega is painfully slow to transfer media onto it :smash:
still cheaper than mine
im sure you will enjoy it mate
Ah now, not many could compete with that setup :D
silverfox0786
19-01-12, 21:36
Ah now, not many could compete with that setup :D
yes they can
andy and rob
they have awsome setups
far better and expensive than mine
Good info guys.
I personally had a Readynas Duo for past few years. Has been working a charm but only downside is that file transfer is slow. I can only get 17mb/s write to it. I get 28mb/s read speeds.
I think is now time for a upgrade to a 4 bay NAS. Still cannot make my mind up what I should get.
I'm stumbling between the QNAP TS-419+ and the Synology DS411.
QNAP seems to have tons of addons for it as found here: http://forum.qnap.com/viewforum.php?f=121&sid=05f85da694a4ef511a731bb832650151
Synology you can run all the favourites of sab,sickbeard,couchpotato which is what I want to do. But not too sure how to install these on the synology. Can anyone share a good guide/link?
Thanks
silverfox0786
25-01-12, 21:54
the synology installs em the same way via package manager and spk files
http://synopkg.superzebulon.org/spkrepo/packages
and i would go fot the DS411+11
i wish i had a bigger budget and could afford the DS411+11 instead of the DS411j
but at almost £1000 for the DS411+11 againt £250 for the DS411j my budget was the j version
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Thanks silverfox.
Yeh the DS411+11 is one hell of a meaty nas. But the price is just as meaty too :p It costs over £500! Hence why I was thinking of QNAP, or the Synology DS411 which I know is lesser spec but costs £350.
So am I right in saying you just add the synopkg url into the settings of the package manager and it auto downloads the chosen packages with no manual command line configuration?
Thanks
silverfox0786
25-01-12, 22:55
Thanks silverfox.
Yeh the DS411+11 is one hell of a meaty nas. But the price is just as meaty too :p It costs over £500! Hence why I was thinking of QNAP, or the Synology DS411 which I know is lesser spec but costs £350.
So am I right in saying you just add the synopkg url into the settings of the package manager and it auto downloads the chosen packages with no manual command line configuration?
Thanks
you need to download teh relevent .spk file for yr chipset and go to package manager browse to file and install
btw i have the DS411j and if your gonna get a DS411 then might as well save £100 as they are only £250 and not much different in then atall
atleast not enough difference to warrant £100 more
you need to download teh relevent .spk file for yr chipset and go to package manager browse to file and install
btw i have the DS411j and if your gonna get a DS411 then might as well save £100 as they are only £250 and not much different in then atall
atleast not enough difference to warrant £100 more
What are your read and write speeds on your ds411j?
silverfox0786
25-01-12, 23:26
here you go mate
here is a performance comparison chart
http://www.synology.com/products/performance.php?lang=enu#tabs-3
Ahhhh I've made my mind and and took the plunge and ordered the Synology DS411 after getting some discount.
Hope I've made the right move...
Silverfox - what type of raid setup do you use on your synology?
silverfox0786
26-01-12, 23:22
Silverfox - what type of raid setup do you use on your synology?
Synology uses standard raid and a special developed one called SHR (synology hybrid raid) I use that as it allows different he'd sizes without any waste and still giving drive redundancy
@Silverfox0786
My DS212j arrived yesterday so I only got a little time to play with it last night and stick a few files onto it (So so much quicker than the Iomega NAS :D ) but when I tried to mount it from either of the Duo's it wasn't able to see the folders (photo, video etc.) from within the DS212j.
I was going in via the Network Browser but when I expanded the root it did not list any folders :confused:
Do I need to do anything special on the NAS to make the drives visible?
I am prob doing something stupid but I haven't spent much time as yet as it took hours initialising the disks etc. last night...
silverfox0786
27-01-12, 16:26
you need to set up the NFS privalages
once done then you can connect to it via NFS shares in the DUO
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Thanks a mill silverfox, a legend as usual :thumbsup:
silverfox0786
27-01-12, 16:45
no worriesd mate glad to help
Hi,
Just a pointer of advice. I got my DS411 today. Trying to work out how this hybrid raid works and if what I am doing below to migrate my data across would be ok.
Currently I have got 1 x 500gb drive in my DS411.
My Readynas has 2 x 1tb drives inside of them. I plan to take 1tb out of the duo and insert it into my DS411 so it will then have 1 x 500gb and 1 x 1tb. Once it is like this I plan to copy all data over from my my Readynas over to my DS411. Once this is done can I remove the 500gb inside of my DS411 and replace with the final 1tb from my Readynas. So then at the end I have in the DS411 1 x 500gb and 2 x 1tb drives. Then at a later date when can stump up some cash buy a 2tb hdd and replace the 500gb with that.
Would the hybrid raid rebuild the drives with all the mix and match going on that I am doing?
Thanks
silverfox0786
27-01-12, 18:23
what you need to remeber is you cant go lower in hdd space
so if you start with 500gb thats fine but that wont go to SHR as that needs 2 drives minimum
so add yr 1tb along with it
then set up SHR once done you can then upgrade yr drives the lower ones to higher ones but not higher ones to lower
it should automatically create the hdd space and upgrade the SHR capacity
what you need to remeber is you cant go lower in hdd space
so if you start with 500gb thats fine but that wont go to SHR as that needs 2 drives minimum
so add yr 1tb along with it
then set up SHR once done you can then upgrade yr drives the lower ones to higher ones but not higher ones to lower
it should automatically create the hdd space and upgrade the SHR capacity
Thanks mate. You the man! :thumbsup:
Great unit this is so far I think! Time to setup sab,sick,couch :)
silverfox0786
27-01-12, 18:48
just remeber to get the one for yr chipset
the noarch build work on all synologies
Silverfox -
I'm just scratching my head around this synology hybrid raid. That's what I have gone for.
What size does your nas actually become. Say you put in 4 x 1tb drives in. Would the nas just become 2tb fully redundant?
Thanks
silverfox0786
28-01-12, 22:41
if yr using 4 same size drives 1tb then really you dont need SHR just use standard raid
depending on what redundency you want will be yr drive size
1 driver redundency will be total 3tb and 2 drive redundency will be total 2tb
that will be yr max on a 4 bay
look here
http://forum.synology.com/wiki/index.php/What_is_Synology_Hybrid_RAID%3F
http://www.synology.com/tutorials/video_hybrid_raid.php?lang=us
if anyone here is using sabnzb on their synology devices what max download speed do you get? I've got a 30mb connection and I can only seem to max out at 1mb/s down using sabnzb on my synology ds411. If i use on my macbook with same settings I can get over 3mb/s down.
silverfox0786
29-01-12, 22:57
yeah i get the same on my 30meg i max out at 1.4-2.0
but please remeber thats same as 15meg
yr internet is 30Mbps [bits]
and sabnzbd is is MBps [bytes] so 1.4MBps [bytes] is around 15Mbps [bits]
I get 3.6 to 3.8 MB/s with Sab to my N40L with a 30Mb broadband :thumbsup:
I get 3.6 to 3.8 MB/s with Sab to my N40L with a 30Mb broadband :thumbsup:
That's because your N40L is like a full on computer ;)
Fellow sickbeard/sabnzb users on the synology. I've set it all up. It works but I have this error coming up:
Failed to set permission for /volume1/Video/complete/TV/xxxx/xxxxxx to 666
Anyone had this come up before and how to resolve it?
silverfox0786
31-01-12, 16:34
Fellow sickbeard/sabnzb users on the synology. I've set it all up. It works but I have this error coming up:
Failed to set permission for /volume1/Video/complete/TV/xxxx/xxxxxx to 666
Anyone had this come up before and how to resolve it?
yes i seen that message
i just chmodded the relevent folders to 777 and errors stopped
yes i seen that message
i just chmodded the relevent folders to 777 and errors stopped
I tried that also. Still keep getting same message on mines :confused:
Any Synology users here updated their DSM to 4.0 yet?
Silverfox you still run your synology - you done it on yours?
I'm thinking about it but mines set up running sickbeard/sabnzb/couchpotato and is running fine using dsm 3.2.
Checking if anyone has upgraded to 4.0 and if had any problems.
silverfox0786
23-03-12, 19:21
didnt realise it was released just seen it so downloading now will upgrade in a bit
silverfox0786
23-03-12, 19:40
Oh WOW DSM4 is awsome
upgrade went well since last posting till now is how quick it was
and the whole diskstation just feels faster on file transfer and access and the gui looks cool too
15840
I've updated mines too now. Seems ok. Gui seems ace.
File transfers seem lot more quicker too.
Sab downloading speed seems to have dropped a little...
Like the cloud station feature. But im a mac user so guess will have to wait until they write an up.
tomthebomb1968
12-04-12, 14:59
Firstly thanks to all contributors to the thread, some great reading.
I got myself a popcorn hour c200 a few months back. To be honest I am a bit disappointed but that is probably due to me expecting the machine to do more than it does. I find that the software is a bit hit n miss on it. I have got it setup ok managed to get SabNzb up and running, but it just decides some days its not gonna work and other days it does lol. So I think I am gonna get a Nas drive and go on from there. i think I will just keep the popcorn and have it connected to the Nas.
My mate has a 4 bay buffalo link station and it seems to work well. He says it requiress modified firmware to use sab etc so I have been looking at the synology range. They seem to do pretty much everything I need. i was looking at the Synology DiskStation DS212j and was wondering if this would be a good choice. Or is there anything else out there i shoud consider.
Also in these times of spiralling costs Argos are doing 1TB usb extenal drive for £46. item number 683/3329
Thanks
I got myself a popcorn hour c200 a few months back. To be honest I am a bit disappointed but that is probably due to me expecting the machine to do more than it does. I find that the software is a bit hit n miss on it. I have got it setup ok managed to get SabNzb up and running, but it just decides some days its not gonna work and other days it does lol.
Off topic I know, but try NZBGet much faster and found it 100% reliable ;)
Hi,
I have the old Synology 410j and it works perfect. I can only recommend Synology. Before my Syno I bought a Buffalo and I was not impressed by their firmware. The buffalo only had one advantage I could install a complete Debian Linux.
ciao
Firstly thanks to all contributors to the thread, some great reading.
I got myself a popcorn hour c200 a few months back. To be honest I am a bit disappointed but that is probably due to me expecting the machine to do more than it does. I find that the software is a bit hit n miss on it. I have got it setup ok managed to get SabNzb up and running, but it just decides some days its not gonna work and other days it does lol. So I think I am gonna get a Nas drive and go on from there. i think I will just keep the popcorn and have it connected to the Nas.
My mate has a 4 bay buffalo link station and it seems to work well. He says it requiress modified firmware to use sab etc so I have been looking at the synology range. They seem to do pretty much everything I need. i was looking at the Synology DiskStation DS212j and was wondering if this would be a good choice. Or is there anything else out there i shoud consider.
Also in these times of spiralling costs Argos are doing 1TB usb extenal drive for £46. item number 683/3329
Thanks
I have the Synology DS411 and I rate it highly compared to my old Netgear ReadyNAS. Not slagging the readynas, it was a robust bit of kit.
Looking at your preference you only have the two bay. Would you consider having a 4 bay? Advantage is having more room for storage expansion.
The new Netgear ReadyNAS V2 products are decent. I prefer Synology as I like the user friendly interface and more snappier in performance. Plus the addons for using sab/sickbeard/couchpotatoe are all free.
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