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Ev0
24-12-11, 17:01
Oh yes, I now have 1 in my sticky palms.

Just about to install blackhole image on it (as no vix to test yet).

Will let you know how it is when i've got it up and running propperly :)

Larry-G
24-12-11, 17:12
Don't you worry. ViX is almost ready to release and with the Linux 3.1.1 kernel fully working too.

snookera
24-12-11, 17:21
How much you pay for it mate

punisher
24-12-11, 17:25
get sum pics up, would be nice to see some more pics

Ev0
24-12-11, 17:33
get sum pics up, would be nice to see some more pics

Please excuse the quality my iphone doesn't like taking indoor pics.

Ev0
24-12-11, 17:34
How much you pay for it mate

I don't want to break any forum rules, as I didn't get it from the sponser.

punisher
24-12-11, 17:41
niceee :D thanks for those pics. the box looks so smart and the controller too.

Ev0
24-12-11, 17:43
niceee :D thanks for those pics. the box looks so smart and the controller too.

No probs.

It's nice to see that the hdd tray will take a 2.5" drive nice and easy too, although the power lead for the hdd could be a touch longer.

Stanman
24-12-11, 17:52
How about some pics of that gorgeous display:D

Ev0
24-12-11, 17:53
Couple more for the time being

easy
24-12-11, 17:59
Hi,is the display color or just the one only? Thanks.

Ev0
24-12-11, 18:00
Hi,is the display color or just the one only? Thanks.

I think it's just 1 colour.

bassethound
24-12-11, 18:02
Thanks for the great pics Ev0 nice to see the 2.5 drives don't need a adapter

cant wait to get mine in the new year :zoom:

easy
24-12-11, 18:09
Thanks for the pics,so what was the third tuner you went for then? Also the VU+ dongel is so neat too,as I've have one plugged on my DUO....

Ev0
24-12-11, 18:14
Thanks for the pics,so what was the third tuner you went for then? Also the VU+ dongel is so neat too,as I've have one plugged on my DUO....

3rd tuner is sat tuner, as that was only option they had in stock.

However on thinking about it, as the hybrid dvb c/t tuner doesn't support T2 then I am better off with 3rd sat tuner anyway.

Yeh the dongle is nice.

bassethound
24-12-11, 18:19
just got a PCTV DVB-T2 290e for uk t2 to go with the 3 sat tuners on the ultimo i have order :zoom:

punisher
24-12-11, 18:31
Id go for 4 sat tuners personally, dnt have arial to bother with it but do cable runs for sat all day long

Ev0
24-12-11, 18:34
just got a PCTV DVB-T2 290e for uk t2 to go with the 3 sat tuners on the ultimo i have order :zoom:

Yeh I will prob get 1 in the near future, but I think i've spent enough for today lol.


Id go for 4 sat tuners personally, dnt have arial to bother with it but do cable runs for sat all day long

I don't really need 4, i'll use 2 feeds from mini dish and 1 from motor, to save messing with diseqc switch's.

Ev0
24-12-11, 18:35
Oh btw, unless i've managed to pick up a beta box, they don't have an oled display, it's vfd still.

And I can't get the picon's to work (not that I really know how to get them working anyway).

punisher
24-12-11, 18:35
Yeh thats wht im planning but 3 from minidish n 1 from motorised as i do more recordings on sly uk than i ever do on motor lol

punisher
24-12-11, 18:37
Have u got specific oled picons for ultimo as im sure they require special ones

Ev0
24-12-11, 18:49
Have u got specific oled picons for ultimo as im sure they require special ones

no, and haven't found anything on google either

Larry-G
24-12-11, 19:01
Thanks for the great pics Ev0 nice to see the 2.5 drives don't need a adapter

cant wait to get mine in the new year :zoom:

yeah its the same as with the uno.

digi247
24-12-11, 19:05
There is one still available to buy from a very well known XXXX(mod edit)site at £499.99 + £9.95 postage. if someone wants one very early

Ev0
24-12-11, 19:07
There is one still available to buy from a very well known auction site at £499.99 + £9.95 postage. if someone wants one very early

You can collect for only £5

punisher
24-12-11, 19:09
lol @ u gotta pay to collect

punisher
24-12-11, 19:09
no, and haven't found anything on google either

i think cuz the box is so new maybe no one has created any

Ev0
24-12-11, 19:10
i think cuz the box is so new maybe no one has created any

Either that, or the blackhole image doesn't support them yet.

easy
24-12-11, 19:34
No probs.

It's nice to see that the hdd tray will take a 2.5" drive nice and easy too, although the power lead for the hdd could be a touch longer.

Will you say the power cable is a tight fit on the board,or just ok?
cheers....

Ev0
24-12-11, 19:42
It's a tight fit mate, it won't come out easily, but it could do with an extra 1 or 2mm in length as it only just reach's (with a 2.5" drive fitted).

punisher
24-12-11, 19:55
I think it was meant for 3.5inch hdd. They musta forgot about 2.5inch lol

Ev0
24-12-11, 19:56
I think it was meant for 3.5inch hdd. They musta forgot about 2.5inch lol

Seems that way.

Is vix ready yet (just read it supports vfd picons) ?? :D

silverfox0786
24-12-11, 20:04
Seems that way.

Is vix ready yet (just read it supports vfd picons) ?? :D

not yet mate but soon

as for VFd picons you cant use standard picons they need to be specially made to comply with ultimo standards

Ev0
24-12-11, 21:04
not yet mate but soon

as for VFd picons you cant use standard picons they need to be specially made to comply with ultimo standards

Looks like i'll be forced to try the VTI image out then

punisher
24-12-11, 21:23
Vix will be out soon have a play with others then come back to us :p

Rob van der Does
24-12-11, 22:48
As the display supports graphics it's OLED; VFD doesn't do that.

Stanman
24-12-11, 22:48
There is one still available to buy from a very well known XXXX(mod edit) site at £499.99 + £9.95 postage. if someone wants one very early

Please respect the forum rules, no endorsements or publicity for satellite retailers other than forum sponsor.

Ev0
24-12-11, 22:52
As the display supports graphics it's OLED; VFD doesn't do that.

Fair enough, I was just reading what it says on the back of the box.:)

ekkostar
24-12-11, 23:02
Just USB'd BH 1.6.6 to it and the machine keeps rebooting. Strange ?

Will try re-flashing again and see what it does. If not will have to try Vti to see if that works ?

Ev0
24-12-11, 23:09
Just USB'd BH 1.6.6 to it and the machine keeps rebooting. Strange ?

Will try re-flashing again and see what it does. If not will have to try Vti to see if that works ?


BH 1.6.7 kernal 3.1.1 beta2 works fine.

Ev0
25-12-11, 00:49
Right got the oled picon's working, they look wicked, but the vti image imo is crap.

Very slow and buggy, so as much as I enjoyed the picon's it's back to Blackhole for the moment :)

silverfox0786
25-12-11, 03:04
what picons are VTI using?

ekkostar
25-12-11, 04:10
BH 1.6.7 kernal 3.1.1 beta2 works fine.

Yes 1.6.7 is fine, I was trying 1.6.6 before which just plain refused to boot.

Plugged in a DVB C/T tuner and a HDD and all sorted now. Have to say this is one wicked machine and it looks stunning.

Loved my Duo but if you're seriously into satellite then Ultimo is defo the receiver to have. Well done VU+:)

On another note if you like playing with boxes then the Azbox Elite/Premiums have just been given a whole new lease of life running E2. Yes, that's right don't laugh, Azbox ! Running Spaze 2.0 Quantum E2 on them is very impressive....as a pure linux rx it's just come back from the dead.

punisher
25-12-11, 09:10
Try the vix image for ultimo ;-)

Ev0
25-12-11, 11:57
Try the vix image for ultimo ;-)

Just having a go now :D

easy
25-12-11, 12:38
Hi,did it come with a fan control module installed?

I'm sure these boxes are cool enough not to have one fitted....:)

digi247
25-12-11, 12:51
Right got the oled picon's working, they look wicked, but the vti image imo is crap.

Very slow and buggy, so as much as I enjoyed the picon's it's back to Blackhole for the moment :)

@Ev0

Wher did you get the OLED picons from, Gonna need these when i get mine :-)

Ev0
25-12-11, 12:53
what picons are VTI using?

Some that you can download from there "panel"


Hi,did it come with a fan control module installed?

I'm sure these boxes are cool enough not to have one fitted....:)

Not that I noticed, but tbh I didn't look too closely.


@Ev0

Wher did you get the OLED picons from, Gonna need these when i get mine :-)

As above they were avaliable to download from the vti panel within the image.

However I am currently messing with the nice new VIX image, and that should have some picons in it somewhere too :D

Rob van der Does
25-12-11, 14:54
Hi,did it come with a fan control module installed?
I'm sure these boxes are cool enough not to have one fitted....:)
The Ultimo comes with a temperature controlled fan. The tuners produce quite a lot of heat; I can assure you the fan is indeed needed.
Under normal circumstances the fan runs rather slow, one can hardly hear it.
A fancontrol setting allows you to set it to "off" in standby.

stevko
25-12-11, 15:36
I would like just ask you if tuner B is working with channels SR 30000 ???
The same problem have clarketech ET 9000/9100/9200 and dreambox 7020HD.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=02oq4peLyAQ

www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAeeVk9sFZQ

Ev0
25-12-11, 16:17
I would like just ask you if tuner B is working with channels SR 30000 ???
The same problem have clarketech ET 9000/9100/9200 and dreambox 7020HD.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=02oq4peLyAQ

www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAeeVk9sFZQ

Never had the problem with my duo, but sure will test a few channels later for you (although I have motor set as tuner C at the moment).

Rob van der Does
25-12-11, 16:30
I would like just ask you if tuner B is working with channels SR 30000 ?
Yep. no problem.

Ev0
25-12-11, 16:36
Tuner C seems fine with 30000 SR channels too

ekkostar
25-12-11, 16:53
Hi,did it come with a fan control module installed?

I'm sure these boxes are cool enough not to have one fitted....:)

Yes it has a fan fitted, runs quite quiet as well but I imagine that maybe fan dependent. Revolutions are low so don't really expect noise problems.

You can set fan control to on/of in for standby as well.

Loving BH at the moment but see that VIX 3.1.1 is out today, great stuff so when I get a moment will try that. Haven't tried any picons just yet as trying to get into the meat and bones of this receiver.

Must say it is hugely impressive but one thing I'm not so keen on so far is the remote ! It sure looks cool but it's not as comfortable as the one you get with duo/uno. I know the one with the uno is programmable so will try to see if that can work with the Ultimo but doesn't look like it can ?

Ev0
25-12-11, 16:54
Must say it is hugely impressive but one thing I'm not so keen on so far is the remote ! It sure looks cool but it's not as comfortable as the one you get with duo/uno. I know the one with the uno is programmable so will try to see if that can work with the Ultimo but doesn't look like it can ?

Glad i'm not the only one thinking that with the remote.

Afaik the Uno remote will work with the ultimo too :D

punisher
25-12-11, 17:03
You csn try by going into remote control code in system settings and see if changing the code to get uno/duo/solo remote to work

Ev0
25-12-11, 17:06
You csn try by going into remote control code in system settings and see if changing the code to get uno/duo/solo remote to work

Yeh changing to 1 makes my duo remote work :)

Larry-G
25-12-11, 17:07
As far as i am aware the uno remote is essentially a multi remote, so with the correct code it should work on the ultimo just as it should with any Vu box, dont quote me on that yet though.

Rob van der Does
25-12-11, 17:21
UNO & Ultimo are both set to R/C code 2, so both remotes can be used for both receivers.

Larry-G
25-12-11, 17:22
UNO & Ultimo are both set to R/C code 2, so both remotes can be used for both receivers.

yeah i thought so but was not totally sure so i did not post.

ekkostar
25-12-11, 17:50
Glad i'm not the only one thinking that with the remote.

Afaik the Uno remote will work with the ultimo too :D

Hi EvO, I'm, glad we're both on the same wave length ! The Ultimo remote is beautiful, but as I have large hands the Uno suits me better.

I have the original Duo remote which is not programmable and the Uno which is. I had changed my Uno to RC1 to work with the Duo. I shall try re-setting the Uno one back to RC2 a bit later on.

Ev0
25-12-11, 17:51
From above the uno remote should work as it is.

The duo remote requires you to change the code on the box from 2 to 1.

ekkostar
25-12-11, 17:56
Hi EvO, the Uno remote is programmable. It comes as RC2 as default but I changed it to RC1 to work with my Duo.

I shall simply revert the remote (hardware) back to RC2 default.

Ev0
25-12-11, 17:58
Hi EvO, the Uno remote is programmable. It comes as RC2 as default but I changed it to RC1 to work with my Duo.

I shall simply revert the remote (hardware) back to RC2 default.

Sorry I am with you now ;)

I will stick with the ultimo remote for a bit longer (didn't get on with the duo remote when I first got it, as I was used to dreambox remote), but after a week or 2, it suddenly felt right if you know what I mean

ekkostar
25-12-11, 18:03
Yes Ultimo is very slick, I just find some of the buttons on the peripheral of the body a little hard to get on with as I have large hands.

This of course is a purely personal thing as the remote itself is stunning otherwise :)

Rob van der Does
25-12-11, 18:24
Ultimo\ s R/C most certenly is not the best there is. I heard people saying it to get more easy to use (less hard pushing) after using it a couple of days.
TBH: I never use any R/C that comes with a box; none can beat the ones in my footer (any manufacturer reading this? Give us a Logitech next time!).

ekkostar
25-12-11, 19:39
That is a very valid point and it's one I've thought about for many years now.

No matter how nice a receiver or box or whatever, ultimately the users experience of it is 99% via a remote control.

It is the 'user' front end of any equipment and the value of this is so important that it should not be lost on any manufacturer really.

You will note that all the receivers that do really well also have ergonomic remote controls. The very best ones take little time to get used to and feel very natural in hand.

On the other hand you get some really nice receivers and the remote controls are tacky, awkward and uncomfortable making use and navigation a pain.

My current personal favourites are the Spiderbox remotes, well built, ergonomic, nice button layout and high quality build.

Rob van der Does
25-12-11, 20:14
Whatever how good your R/C is, once used the activity based Harmony you will never use anything else.

ekkostar
26-12-11, 01:00
Ok can confirm the Vu+ Uno remote works perfectly fine with the Ultimo.

silverfox0786
31-12-11, 20:14
Whatever how good your R/C is, once used the activity based Harmony you will never use anything else.

cant agree more


after showing my mum teh harmony who is 63 years old and cant even send SMS texted fell in love with the harmony and i had to get her one which she loves using

Larry-G
31-12-11, 20:18
same here, not a big lover of the universal remotes but now i have a harmony 600 and a 650 and i'd be lost without them.

Rob van der Does
31-12-11, 20:23
..... teh harmony who is 63 years old....
I could swear the Harmony's exist only a couple of years........

silverfox0786
31-12-11, 20:25
I could swear the Harmony's exist only a couple of years........

sorry let me add teh puctuations to that sentance for ya

after showing my mum the harmony; who is 63 years old and cant even send SMS text, fell in love with the harmony. And i had to get her one, which she loves using

pooface
31-12-11, 20:30
Nah, still prefer the oem remotes myself...

I like the harmony for a quick "do summat on all boxes/tv/surround", but, as a full use, the oem suits me best...

Rob van der Does
31-12-11, 20:33
Nah, still prefer the oem remotes myself...

I like the harmony for a quick "do summat on all boxes/tv/surround", but, as a full use, the oem suits me best...
Reading that only one thought pops up: that Harmony has not been set up correct.

punisher
31-12-11, 20:42
I love my harmony 900 would be totally lost without it and so would all my a/v equipment lol thank god for 1 remote

pooface
31-12-11, 20:50
Reading that only one thought pops up: that Harmony has not been set up correct.

I probably haven't taken full use of all settings/properties for it, but tbh, I don't want to use the activities that much... It might just be the remote I have (525), but it doesn't work too well with the sat boxes...

Rob van der Does
31-12-11, 20:58
Hmmm, having a bunch of 555's here (almost the same as the 525) I can assure you they are the best Logitech ever made (in fact Logitech didn't; it's been designed by the original company that Logitech has taken over). It even has the Sound and Picture buttons: super!
Once used to activity's you never want to talk to devices any more.