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Need Help with setting up OScam as cardreader. I tried CCcam but it is not able to read the type of card I have, someone told me it is like that because it uses CAID 0d96 or 0d97 (whatever that is..!?..)
I have no prior knowledge of setting something like this (or any knowledge of Linux/Enigma) I Would be helped with a step-by-step tutorial that will point me file locations and settings need to be made to get it to work.
Installing it on the box I can do but I was not able to start it up. As I learned out of several bits and pieces I found on the Net you have to make tons of settings for it to start to work.
On that I would appreciate some help....
A good start is to have a read of the wiki here
http://streamboard.gmc.to/wiki/OSCam/en
Thanks for pointing me this Wiki, I found it before and it is useful in detail but it still does not provide me with a "How-To" in how to get it setup step-by-step.
So where to obtain the futile user manual for the oblivious Vu+ user that needs to run OScam...?..
Or is it not suitable to be used by just anybody? I was always thinking that was the whole idea behind open source; for everybody by everybody and my motivation to buy a receiver like this. But I'm bit running into a brick wall on this one.
You want to set up DVB-API, google is your friend.:D
Google gives you bit's and pieces, I need the complete cake to suit my needs in noob step-by-step. But I have it sorted, someone from CCcamforum gave me a complete setting for my config needs.
So if anybody here wanna run Skylink on VU+ Uno with Oscam (Cccam cannot read this card) just as a card-reader I have the correct settings and files+locations to be made available.
I mase a step by step guide for this site :)
http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?7609-Oscam-setup
Next time please use the search button
Of course I did, this list did not tell me nothing about what to do with it. :confused:
You should go behind the counter of the shop of the sponsor and put your list in front every client that wil buy a Linux box for the first time. Then ask them if they will know what to do with that to get a Softcam going, I bet you will on 99% of the times get the same answer: ?????????????????????
Step-By-Step my friend means writing it like the manual that is included with the box you buy. Like was done here by punisher for installing instructions: http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?8704-How-to-Install-CCcam-MGCamd-Others-on-Duo-Solo-Uno-ET9000-ET5000-ViX
Not everybody living in the online world of sat crazy experimenters, might even be that those are a rare species :cool:
So please if you are interested in helping absolute beginners on the go for enjoying this potential really great and interesting stuff, then think first-time-see-computer :eek:
So please if you are interested in helping absolute beginners on the go for enjoying this potential really great and interesting stuff, then think first-time-see-computer :eek:
Look mate if you read that link I pointed out to you all the information you need is in it.
I spent hours working out how to do this set up.
I dont mind giving information to help newbies out but I refuse to spoon feed them how are you expected to learn and fault find if all the information you need is given to you on a silver platter.
Look mate if you read that link I pointed out to you all the information you need is in it.
I spent hours working out how to do this set up.
I dont mind giving information to help newbies out but I refuse to spoon feed them how are you expected to learn and fault find if all the information you need is given to you on a silver platter.
Now here is something we actually do very strongly agree on.
You need to start to read, read and read some more that you end up banging your head against a wall then you go and try what you have learned.
I would recommend starting with the easiest the dm500s or blade 50s for that matter just to get your head round it.
Download the OScam last rev for you type of box, for the Dm500s it powerpc-tuxbox-old version.
for example this is how to install it it on a E1 based box such as above using Pli Jade 3
Once you have downloaded the file you need. In this case oscam-stable-1.10-powerpc-tuxbox-old-webif-Distribution.
Now re-name that to OScam.
Now FTP the cam to /var/bin
now CHmod to 755
Now using telnet type the following command
touch /var/etc/plimgr/cardservers/OScam
This will create a blank file.
The file you create must be exactly the same as the cam file that you just sent to /var/bin
Now select OScam from the menu in Pli Jade.
Now you need the files
ftp these files to the box, I add # for bits you need to read and **** for bits you need to edit
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That should get you started or put in the right direction.
Look mate if you read that link I pointed out to you all the information you need is in it.
I spent hours working out how to do this set up.
I don't mind giving information to help newbies out but I refuse to spoon feed them how are you expected to learn and fault find if all the information you need is given to you on a silver platter.
I'm trying to get clear that "normal" average consumers don't want to spend there valuable time on getting the stuff going on command line level. The box is sold on the commercial market, meaning for it to be accessible with all it's possible features it needs to be provided with user documentation on IKEA level.
If you tend to disagree with that you are basically saying this "Open Source" ended up in a closed community and "Shareware" is for those who already know what it is all about...
For that matter any Shareware written for Windows platforms (as much as I detest this monopoly) was at least always coming with a .txt explaining you the basics and structure of the program.
Don't feel attacked, I am trying to get a bit clear here how the average oblivious user experiencing making use of these basically great machines. It should be no more difficult to use then a laundry dryer, and as versatile as a PC. But by saying; have a go and see what comes form it you not making it suitable for everybody and that is as I imaging the goal of putting something for use to the public.
I always make a point when recommending a linux based box that they are not plug and play, they do need some amount of user interaction to setup but with support forums like WoS all the help you could need is ready to hand.
The problem is that a lot of people have come from previous systems like the uk cable tv boxes which just needed plugging into a feed and the mains for you to receive your channels. third party satellite boxes have never and will never be like this, thats just the way it is and it does fall to the end user to do some homework before buying the box rather than after it arrives.
I understand that but why keep it so difficult to access?? Open Source was meant to benefit everybody without the restrictions of commercial interests; sorry to conclude this but like this for most people you're not getting it done....
Is it really so much effort create a Glossary or simple manual for the program you Coding...?...People that are Coding for Windows/Mac platforms seem to able getting it done. With writing a Coding scheme you're already more then half-way there.
Why let everybody re-invent the wheel over and over again and let them laboriously put small bits and pieces together before they experience how great it can work for you...?...Does not seem logical and efficient to me at all. But then again it is possible I do not understand the subcultural tendency of open source and am I possibly hitting sore spots.
I can imagine if some forum users/admins will be requested they will be prepared to create proper tutorials out of there experiences according to a predefined structure and it will stimulate the use of these boxes. It will also get hands free for spending on working on for example the images instead of answering the same basic question again and again...I think we all agree they are a lot better then the boxes with proprietary source software and we will all benefit of a wider spreading of it.
@Ezee
I can assure you that pretty much all the mods, admins and VIPS like myself are all self taught and I can assure you 100% it comes from reading, breaking it and then fixing it.
I have been playing with Linux box's from the start and I can hand on heart say I only ever found one useful guide and it was called Klona's Guide.
I printed it and used it as a reference and then build my own info up from stuff I found on the net.
I had a ring binder full and it was my bible for many years.
Now I with many years behind me I read things like the Oscam wiki and I understand most of it but there is plenty that goes over my head at first glance.
I'm trying to be patronising but pretty much all the info you need is already here but it takes time to digest, be prepared to waste days, weeks and months getting to grips and it will come together.
This is a hobby and nothing more for me but it keeps me off the streets and my wife knows where to find me :D
Blimey, I even found the guide on the net still.
http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/DigiTV/dbox-howto.htm
http://klona.4t.com/
So you basically you telling me that it is only suitable for a minor group of people that are using it as a toy and not is for the majority no use.
I know the auto-didactic way since I was "playing" with the first Commodore 64, but that level was passed long time ago. Since the 8086 we evolved into user friendly interfaces and anything not complying will turn into a drop-out.
If I will be playing with the receiver in front my family with the excuse that this is the way how to get it working I will be requested to buy something serious or accept the risk of ending up on the closest railway track with a few short pieces of rope around my hands and legs.
So you basically you telling me that it is only suitable for a minor group of people that are using it as a toy and not is for the majority no use.
I know the auto-didactic way since I was "playing" with the first Commodore 64, but that level was passed long time ago. Since the 8086 we evolved into user friendly interfaces and anything not complying will turn into a drop-out.
If I will be playing with the receiver in front my family with the excuse that this is the way how to get it working I will be requested to buy something serious or accept the risk of ending up on the closest railway track with a few short pieces of rope around my hands and legs.
no were absolutely not saying that, my 16 year old sister can quite sufficiently setup my uno from scratch. what we are saying is that these boxes need some user input to initially set them up and regular maintenance to keep them going, but once setup they can be operated as easily as any box by your services provider. I understand that for some one not used to these boxes they can be quite daunting especially as a new skills set is required but they will never be plug and play they are sold as hobbyist boxes and always have been.
Mate, i know its frustrating and when you start out you want it as simple as possible.
When you referring to open source, just because its open source it doesn't mean easily explained for the layman like me or you.
What you have asked to do it merely a by product of what can be run on a enigma based machine.
You need to learn the basics of what you want to do, then try try try and fail until you get it to do what you need it to.
I get mine to do what I need it to do, but the likes of the guy on here who compile images, that flies right over my head.
Your best ready what you can, then once you get stuck come back at what stage your stuck at other wise you will not learn anything.
charliesen
21-12-11, 01:41
I started in the cable scene and then moved to sat. I didn't know anyone who was into sat so i spent hundreds (literally) of hours reading everything i could on the subject.
It was so different, the terminoligy for a start "var / etc / cams /tuxbox " etc made no sence to me but slowly i got the hang of it and bought a cheap dm500s to play with and asked a few questions when i got stuck.
Now i can do just about anything i want to with vu's, dm's although i'm still far from being an expert.
So my advise to you is do the same as i did and read and read some more and then ask when you don't know what to do next . It's the only way otherwise you will be on the forums asking for help everytime you have a little glitch with your box
Open Source was meant to benefit everybody without the restrictions of commercial interests; sorry to conclude this but like this for most people you're not getting it done.....That's not true. Open source is a philosophy. It's purpose is so you can see what you are running, check it for errors bugs etc, and improve it or modify it as necessary. It's not got anything to do with copyright, or not being able to sell code commercially, it just means the code is available uncompiled.
I know it can be frustrating @first but to get something for nothing requires some knowledge and a lot of reading im afraid ! best to get started and once you master the basics (as stated earlier) you will find everything else just comes along easily from that point on.
good luck and happy viewing.:eek:
I think the full subject here was so stupid....
I totally got the point of the noob here...I believe he was close to understand, basically the question is, where do I put the file, how many file do I need to run oscam...but no one as clearly answered...even the person who pretended to have made a "clear guide" which took him hours...
You know, i am expert on some fields, and thanks god, i am aware of what is the level of a beginner...requesting people to read for hundreds of hours is ridiculous...of course if someone come and ask 1000's of very very basic question such as "what is a transponder" ...u might get upset...but someone asking how to setup Oscam...is something else...
Myself, i installed the plugin, but now I wonder how to configure it so it will read my BisTV card.
Yes I know i need to put some file in tutbox but which files and how to personalize it...got no clue...
im sure it would have taken 5min to an expert to explain properly...it was better than arguing over 10-15 messages to reach no help whatsoever...
I do keep in mind however that you do all this for free ...and that will always amaze me!
Google gives you bit's and pieces, I need the complete cake to suit my needs in noob step-by-step. But I have it sorted, someone from CCcamforum gave me a complete setting for my config needs.
So if anybody here wanna run Skylink on VU+ Uno with Oscam (Cccam cannot read this card) just as a card-reader I have the correct settings and files+locations to be made available.
...i have skylink irderto and vu+ solo 2 . Can you help me ? Thanks.
At the end of the day this is a hobby to 99% of the people on here. With a hobby you red you play you learn. What hobby do you know that gives you everything "out of the box" and asking for "hold my hand, I don't understand how to do this" is wasting you time the the time of many on here.
My father in law who is 79 years of age spent 10 days reading all he could on here and other sites and installed and used firstly cccam and now oscam.
There are some of the friendliest people on here I have ever come across, but you will only EVER gain their trust by at least understanding the basic stuff.
As for selling the box on the market as a working box..... it is for BASIC stuff and you are not asking for basic stuff. Without the likes of Andy and many others on here you/me/us would have nothing to plat with full stop.
I would suggest that rules could get broken here if you keep asking about oscam. Read the rules before you post next.
I will get off my box now......
John
Yet no one answered the poor guys question asked over 2 years ago ... I know many things aswell but if you want to know what they are I suggest you try googling .... stupid and arrogant attitude ... simples
before moving to oscam I used cccam and then mgcamd and now use oscam (wish I learnt earlier). when I went with oscam I had to read read and read (which is not my strong point, believe me). it got to a point where I wanted someone to show me. but decided to spend a day playing and testing and with trial and error managed to sort it (thanks to support from people on this forum). once sorted i could manage and change or edit from oscam webif. but most work came from me reading up. people are quick to look for people to show them or do for them. but reading and learning is what its all about.
i suppose a lot of people are not IT literate and need a bit more support than others. and this is where this forum can help
Here,Here John. My brain is still hurting from the amount of reading I did.:thumbsup:
Here,Here John. My brain is still hurting from the amount of reading I did.:thumbsup:
i know how you feel mate:D
peterjones
14-04-17, 20:11
Hi,
Im at the OSCAM stage with my VIX VU Uno box. I have been using CCCam for years, so long ago I cant even remember my old username or email account I must have used (hence the new account). However I would like to see if I could get OScam going now on my Uno and thought that I would ask around here as you will know some of the answers to my questions.
Im not asking anyone to do it for me, as Ive read some excellent stuff on here that looks fairly understandable.
Question:
Can I run CCcam and OScam on the same VU Uno at the same time? Or do I have to remove my CCcam before trying to get this going?
Will OScam allow my sky card to get updates or will it need to be taken out and put back in the normal box every now and again?
Finally is there a good location to get the download of OScam and how do I go about installing it on Vix ... I think I know what to do with the files from reading the instructions on here, once set up.
Many thanks for your help.
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