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jcm193
12-12-11, 22:36
Hi can anyone tell me how much a channel master 1.8 actually weighs as ive seen at least 3 different weights and if the above motor will work with the channel master dish,if not is there an alternative i don't want to go down the actuator route again thanks

silverfox0786
12-12-11, 22:38
the channel master alone i would estimate at 10 -15kg max with the metal arms aswell

maybe creaping toward 20 but not very close to it

jcm193
12-12-11, 22:42
Cheers silv according to three sources it ranges from 5 kg to 27.6 kg i can not believe there is such a massive difference i would be taking the metal arms off and replacing it with the motek 180,has anyone got any experience of this motor thanks

silverfox0786
12-12-11, 22:45
if you want i can weigh my 1.1 channel master in teh mornign for you that will give you a -/+ 5kg difference avarage

the moteck i heard back in that days was ok for 1.2 not sure of 1.8

jcm193
12-12-11, 22:46
If you could silv according to motek it can take upto 27 kg but its better to be safe than sorry

silverfox0786
12-12-11, 23:04
If you could silv according to motek it can take upto 27 kg but its better to be safe than sorry

yeah sure i will do my 1.2 for ya in teh morning

jcm193
13-12-11, 16:56
Well according to information ive received today the dish actually weighs 53 kgs so that takes the motek 180 out of the picture

silverfox0786
13-12-11, 18:04
wow the 1.8 is far heaveir than the 1.2 over double i'd say

jcm193
13-12-11, 18:08
It looks that way after to speaking to someone about the issue they said it could have something to do with pulses and the magnet in the actuator its self,i think he assumed i knew what he meant but it means nothing to me to be honest

silverfox0786
13-12-11, 18:10
the actuators uses a reed switch to pulse the movement

and for a 1.8m dish you need a minimum of a 24inch actuator any smaller will break the actuator

i know even on my 1.2 i have gone through 4 actators being 18inches only now gonna get a Heavy Duty 18inch

you may need a heavy duty 24incher

jcm193
13-12-11, 18:15
So something like a 24 inch heavy duty superjack will do will this eliminate the consistent adjustment im having to make when i move satellites i currently have a 18 inch on there thanks

silverfox0786
13-12-11, 18:47
on my god i have broken 4 18 inch actuators on a 1.2 m dish no wonder yr constantly adjusting yr weight of dish is too great for a 18 inch the reed sends a command but the cogs wont move or wont move enough as teh tourque is just not there so you get a false move in effect

this is where you get a move on the receiver but not a physical move on the actuator

get a bigger actuator and you should be ok

in normal use the 18inch has been great for 1.2m but no way you gonna get away with it on a 1.8 dish

jcm193
13-12-11, 18:50
Not to sure bud i use the vbox and click left or right to bring in the best signal its doing my head in to be honest lets hope a bigger actuator does the trick can are sponser get hold of 24 inch actuators


edit

ive just found the original box for my actuator and its actually a 24 inch super power jack i don't think its heavy duty could that be the problem would a genuine superjack heavy duty make any difference

silverfox0786
13-12-11, 18:54
trust me having used an actuator for 16 years and still using one i know how they work

especially having broken so many

the click that you get on the vbox is there but the dish dont move sometimes due to being a small arm that isnt strong enough and hence why yr constantly adjusting it

i set up my dads stalled 1.2m dish the other month after being sat there not used and it didnt need any adjustment i found the sats and theya re still all fine now

yr arm really needs to be bigger one other thing is due to arm not beig strong enough the brass sleeve on the arm slips when you make a move that wont move

i seen that happen too where the dish isnt actually moving but the brass jacket where the screw goes in is slipping down the arm

jcm193
13-12-11, 18:58
ive edited my post above its actually a 24 in ive got but not original superjack

silverfox0786
13-12-11, 19:00
you could try an original i know superjack, jeager, and other makes perform differently

have a look and see of my second opinion to this

has the brass sleeve slid down in anyway

DixieRay
24-06-12, 09:27
the best thing for yur 1,8cm is one of them jaygers H-H motors they come with channeal master plate to fix dish and theys good for big fat heaby dishes up to 2.5metres. thingk they stopped making them but u might get a secon hand on somewhere otherwise u need a heady duty 24inch rod motor