ABM re-ordering IPTV channels

[Willmoore]

Using E-Chanelizer i have changed the positions of channels within various IPTV bouquets and written it back to the box (Edision Mini - Image 5.0.020)
I have Schedule ABM scan set to OFF.
When I shut the box down and then restart it the channels within the IPTV bouquets return to alphabetical order (which is the order they were in prior to me changing them).
I assume ABM runs at start up but I thought it did not touch non ABM created bouquets

[twol]

If ABM is off, I would not expect any change (certainly doesn't run on my system)
Did you save in Echannelizer before sending to the receiver?
If so re-check saved boquets and copy back to the receiver.
Then reboot and see what happens.

My bouquets certainly stay as I have set them up and I also use Echannelizer.

A strange one.

[Willmoore]

I have gone back to the beginning. Connected to the box with E-Channelizer and downloaded current settings.
Moved an IPTV bouquet up the list.
Moved a channel from the middle of the same bouquet to the top.
Saved and written back to the box. - I get a message telling me Settings have been saved by E-chanelizer.
Restart box - Nothing changed. Run ABM - Nothing changed.
Write to box again - DO NOT restart box but DO run ABM. - changes have taken place.
Restart box - changes have gone

[twol]

If you are not using ABM named bouquets for your "changed" bouquets it shouldn't look at them and your new ABM bouquets should be above or below depending on your ABM settings.
Echannelizer should update your image bouquets and reload bouquets, but it looks as if ABM is still looking at the original in memory and rewriting??
So as a bypass, 1) restart after changes 2) only run ABM when you need to ...... after all not that many changes nowadays as Sky channels are not viewable.

[abu baniaz]

Maybe issue with E-Channelizer reloading? Contact Sayyid



ABM will only manipulate ABM bouquets by default.

[Willmoore]

If you are not using ABM named bouquets for your "changed" bouquets it shouldn't look at them and your new ABM bouquets should be above or below depending on your ABM settings.
Echannelizer should update your image bouquets and reload bouquets, but it looks as if ABM is still looking at the original in memory and rewriting??
So as a bypass, 1) restart after changes 2) only run ABM when you need to ...... after all not that many changes nowadays as Sky channels are not viewable.

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If I restart after changes my alterations to the bouquets do not show. I have to run ABM for them to show.
I always assume it's something I have done (as it usually is !) But maybe it is the program, as I did my main box without problem using V3 and I am now using V4 ?

[twol]

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If I restart after changes my alterations to the bouquets do not show. I have to run ABM for them to show.
I always assume it's something I have done (as it usually is !) But maybe it is the program, as I did my main box without problem using V3 and I am now using V4 ?

When I run Echannelizer and send bouquets to the box, I always have to hit the "up" cursor (channel list), then blue button (favourites) and then select a Bouquet to show the newly loaded Bouquets

[Andy_Hazza]

A simple press of the TV button refreshes the Bouquet Lists also as apposed to restarting the receiver etc.


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[Willmoore]

A simple press of the TV button refreshes the Bouquet Lists also as apposed to restarting the receiver etc.


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Not sure what this achieves regarding my issue Andy It just brings up the Bouquet list. I still have to run ABM for my changes to show and my changes still disappear when i restart the box.

[Andy_Hazza]

Why do you have to run ABM if you are not using ABM for any channels?


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[Willmoore]

Why do you have to run ABM if you are not using ABM for any channels?


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Because if i don't run the ABM the changes i have made in the bouquets do not take effect.

[dsayers]

A couple of factors here are you using a script? That may cause the bouquets ti revert on boot

I'm not sure if Alternative numbering mode in channel selection will have any affect on this and im not sure if there is an alphabetical order setting in epg or channel selection settings. As for having to run ABM for the changes to take affect im not sure why you would need to do that

[abu baniaz]

Are you editing the ABM bouquets?

[Andy_Hazza]

Because if i don't run the ABM the changes i have made in the bouquets do not take effect.

You must be modifying the ABM Bouquets then as Abu has mentioned.


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[Andy_Hazza]

If you prefer not to have ABM for your FreeSat Channels for example and you are wanting to mix n match n customise your layout you need to create the Bouquets to suit. Or read the ABM Bouquets to your computer using E-Channelizer and then rename and customise to your needs, turn off ABM n then write back your finished work to your receiver.


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