VU announces 2 new 4k-boxes at the Anga

[john doe]

looks like Mutant 4k could be out very soon. seen cable one at £249 euros

http://mutant-digital.net/?author=1

[Larry-G]

Actually clever, in so far they siezed a market opportunity by going early and selling (I guess) quite a few receivers based on having the first 4K box. The fact that it doesn,t support all the codecs is the customers problem - buyer beware

Thats kind of the point. First to be able to brag of having a working 4K receiver for general sale and First to real in every dozy plonker who thinks the sun shines out of Vu's collective #####.

They know exactly who their target market are and exactly how to get them on the hook, more fool the dozy plonkers who buy into it before doing their homework if you ask me.

[Ev0]

Thats kind of the point. First to be able to brag of having a working 4K receiver for general sale and First to real in every dozy plonker who thinks the sun shines out of Vu's collective #####.

They know exactly who their target market are and exactly how to get them on the hook, more fool the dozy plonkers who buy into it before doing their homework if you ask me.

If thats what they did (and I say IF, as I can not remember is VP9 was a codec at the time the Solo4K was announced or launched), then it is no different from what Samsung, Pansasonic, LG, etc etc have all done with tv's.

There will always be stuff pushed to market before final standards are set and agreed on, but as you know with technology if you wait before you jump in, you will be waiting forever and never get anything as it is always changing.

[Rob van der Does]

Actually clever, in so far they siezed a market opportunity by going early and selling (I guess) quite a few receivers based on having the first 4K box. The fact that it doesn,t support all the codecs is the customers problem - buyer beware

Indeed: exactly the same issues as with early 4k TV's (those were even worse: didn't even support HEVC ).
And less early models with HDR.
And so on....

[Andy_Hazza]

looks like Mutant 4k could be out very soon. seen cable one at £249 euros

http://mutant-digital.net/?author=1

Bit steep for a "supposedly" budget box init?


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[Rob van der Does]

If thats what they did (and I say IF, as I can not remember is VP9 was a codec at the time the Solo4K was announced or launched), ......

Well, when you are the first to launch a new generation (STB/TV/whatever) you surely know you'll run behind the facts in no time.

[Rob van der Does]

...£249 euros....

So you mean £249 or €249? Quite a difference these days.
IMHO €249 is not too bad for a budget 4k twin tuner. And I'm sure prices will drop within the year, as they always do.

[john doe]

So you mean £249 or €249? Quite a difference these days.
IMHO €249 is not too bad for a budget 4k twin tuner. And I'm sure prices will drop within the year, as they always do.

249,00 € (euros). looks like it come out this month

[john doe]

[QUOTE=Andy_Hazza;405922]Bit steep for a "supposedly" budget box init?

that's a descent price. especially with the spec

[Larry-G]

If thats what they did (and I say IF, as I can not remember is VP9 was a codec at the time the Solo4K was announced or launched), then it is no different from what Samsung, Pansasonic, LG, etc etc have all done with tv's.

There will always be stuff pushed to market before final standards are set and agreed on, but as you know with technology if you wait before you jump in, you will be waiting forever and never get anything as it is always changing.

I'm not just picking on Vu+ here by any means just pointing out that all tech companies really do know exactly who their target market are and where ever possible will always try to out do their competitors by releasing their product as a world first to real in both existing users of their kit and new ones.

I still think that the oneness is on the user to do their homework and not jump head first in without doing a little research, especially with new or largely unfinalized formats. Afterall for most people without deep pockets such a purchase will be a once in a decade type of deal.

[Andy_Hazza]

I like by FBC tuner setup now, don't think I can go back to the bog standard tuners.


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[Rob van der Does]

I like by FBC tuner setup now, ...

Absolutely, but there's more to it to be a good STB. After all this time the box is still in it's infancy, and tbh: I'm far from sure if it will ever be mature.
Only hope is that VU has learned from this and that their new 4k boxes will have less flaws.

[DaMacFunkin]

Which channel?

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TRT4k it was the only channel on that mux so the bitrate was top notch.

[DaMacFunkin]

Damm wish I had 4K but gonna wait until next generation. Read Robs post and 4K doesn't support some codecs - what plonkers are vu!

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Not really because it already been agreed that HEVC265 would be the broadcast standard for 4k in the foreseeable future, there won't be any 4k broadcast TV channels in the near future that use anything else... VP9 is googles own 4k codec and as such it requires licensing and as there is really only you tube that use it why bother? Believe me my TV supports VP9 and there is nothing on YouTube worth watching, anything that ever will be will require a subscription and then What happens when Google release VP10 which is already in the pipe line? More new hardware, more new licensing.
As with all e2 boxes, box for watching TV, seperate box if you are serious about media files, although the 24p situation is piss poor I agree.

[Rob van der Does]

As with all e2 boxes, box for watching TV, seperate box if you are serious about media files,

You have a point there; and that's exactly what I always said myself
But nevertheless: buying a first generation device is always a risk.