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    Fruitballs Motorised Installtion Guide

    Fruitballs Motorised Installation Guide
    This is only a guide.. Please remember to keep safe working at heights and using power tools. It may look easy to install a dish but remember climbing ladders is one thing, drilling, working and carrying up a dish is a completly different ball game. If you do not feel safe get someone else to do it! This is only a rough guide, i am not responsible for any damage or injurys your may cause or do to yourself. You may require 2 people carrying the dish on the bracket. I used a rope to pull dish up to brackets but let me tell you it is friggin heavy and not for the faint hearted! BE SAFE!
    TOOLS AND EQUIPMENT REQUIRED
    Ladders - Make sure you have them at a safe angle and that they wont slip out, tie them down
    Hammer drill, drill bits, 10mm,13mm ring spanners, other sizes do help
    Spirit level and or incliometer, felt tip to mark drill points
    self amalgimating tape, insulation tape, F connectors,
    Hammer, clips, screwdrivers, rg6 cable or better
    Dish, motor, lnb, brackets, pole ( i used scaffolding pole for my install)
    hardhat, eye protection, harness, rope,
    satellite meter or your satellite receiver for aligning
    Cutters, plyers and other tools,
    I used a TM-2600 MOTOR, 1M STEEL ORBITAL DISH, 18INCH T AND K BRACKETS, MUNGO PLUGS AND BOLTS AND WASHERS, 2 FOOT SCAFFOLD POLE I CUT UP, U CLAMPS AND WASHERS, TM1 GOLD LNB, RG6 FOAM FILLED CABLE

    1. Mount your T & K'S making sure there level and straight. Use washers when connecting the mungo bolts (or whatever bolts you are using) to ensure a nice even tight fit. Some people mount the T at the top Or some people mount the K at the top I will do either depending on install.
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    Mount pole and make sure it is dead vertical and plumb. This has to be perfect!
    Use a angle finder or spirit level 360 degrees around pole
    Once happy tighten up uclamps to pole and make sure it is solid and double check it is plumb, if it is even slightly out it will not track arc properly
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    Assemly your dish and set your latitude on your motor. In the manual for your motor should be a conversion table for the readout on the side of the motor. To find out your latitude and longitude go to multimap.com, google maps or at a push a satnav. Set your latitude on the side of the motor and then bolt up tight.
    Mount dish to motor pole make sure it is dead centre with the motor. There should be a mark or marking on the motor and on the dish to ensure it is dead on and then bolt up tight.
    It is also a good idea to run the cable from the lnb to the motor now so it makes it easier while working on the ground and use some insulation tape to tape cable to lnb arm. Loosly tighten the lnb in the lnb holder so you can adjust you SCEW when aligning the dish. Make sure all connections are good and watertight.
    Leave your dish declination for now.
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    mount dish and motor to the pole between T & K Brackets and loosly nip up the bolts from back of motor.
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    Alighning your dish
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    Now you enter your latitude and longitude and input that information in to your receiver and then drive the motor to 0. or go to 0 and then go to your reference satellite. Mine us thor 0.8w but yours might be slightly different. There is a list on the internet of what your reference satellite should be. Now start searching for your satellite by moving the motor housing left and right and then moving dish declenation up and down till you find your satellite and get a good signal. Once happy bolt it all up. Now adjust your scew on your lnb by moving it slightly left or right and see how it affects the signal on your satellite.
    If you have done it all right then go to the most westerly satellite you can receive and then go to the most easterly satellite you can receive and check signal and go through sat by sat and double check your signal. That way you can fine tune your installation and make it track the arc properly.
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    You only need to adjust your lnb skew on your reference satellite as your motor will take care of the skew for other satellites.
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    Make sure all cables are clipped to the wall and are tidy and waterproofed.
    Now go have a beer and enjoy your new setup!

    THIS IS ONLY A ROUGH GUIDE TO SHOW YOU HOW TO SET UP A MOTORISED DISH
    BE SAFE, READ AND LEARN ASWELL AS THERE IS MANY RESOURCES ON THE INTERNET.
    THIS GUIDE MAY BE REPRODUCED BUT MAY NOT BE EDITED!
    FRUITBALL

    **** Addon ****

    Mounting T AND K BRACKETS

    Start with first bracket and offer it to the wall
    use a spirit level on the top to make sure it is level and mark the holes with a pen.
    Get your hammer drill and make a pilot hole with a smaller masonary drill bit where you marked the holes
    widen the pilot holes with the correct size masonary drill bit for your choice of bolt
    attach collars or mungo plug in,
    get bracket from floor and attach the 2/3 bolts to the bracket (depending on if it is a t or the k) making sure you are using washers aswell!
    tighten them up with a spanner or socket.
    get your spirit level again and then make sure its level and then nip all the bolts up tight.

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    Now attach a uclamp in the top holes of the bracket and attach your pole but only slightly nip up the uclamp so that it holds the pole without it falling and please remember to use washers with your uclamps
    now get your bottom bracket and attach other end of pole to it and mark the bracket up against wall making sure pole, bracket is all in line, plumb and straight.
    Pilot holes and widen again for bottom bracket and attach bracket to wall with bolts.

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    Now get your angle finder or spirit level on the pole and go 360 degrees around it making sure it is plumb and fine adjust it in the brackets so it is. Once your happy bolt it all up and you will have one plumb pole. The pole between the two brackets give it strentgh

    There are vid on youtube that will help you and show you how to do it.

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    Where to point dish??

    You want to locate the dish on a south facing wall, use a compass to help you or look for where sky dishes are pointing. If a sky dish is pointing straight then you wanted to be pointing to the right of it from when looking at the back of itto get 0.8w LOOK AT PHOTO

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    Another note is to make sure people understand that the scales on the side of dishes and motors i never find acturate. I bolt the motor up to my latitude and leave the dish loose so i can fine tune it.
    Then i align to my reference sat and then go far east and then far west. I then flex the dish at the far ends of the east and west point to see if the sig goes up, goes down or stays the say. Then you can adjust your motor longitude and dish declenation accordling... spend the extra time on it as it is worth it
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    nice detailed write up, with good safety advice as well
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    Good work. We should start a users install pics thread

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    Nice job - Just one suggestion that is often neglected and is done at the time of LNB skew adjustment, before (or after if you prefer) skew adjustment, gently move the lnb in and out from the dish whilst monitoring signal strength, this will fine tune the dish focal point for maximum signal.
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    Great write up, made a sticky
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    Hi, nice write up but can you let me know what sat, would be my reference if my position is lat. is 9,4 west.
    thanks

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    Great guide. Just to clarify about setting the angle for latitude. For my latitude of 52° the reference table converts that to 38° as the elevation. The confusing thing is that the plate is marked "latitude" where the manual shows it should be "elevation". So I have gone with the conversion table and set the plate to 38°. Can anyone confirm this is correct please.

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    So to confirm, send the motor to 0 deg, and align the dish to true South. Then send the motor 0.8w and then fine tune for a good signal.

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